Recent CCDA Meeting

Post by BJ » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:46 pm

Does anyone have info from the recent CCDA meeting regarding '08 event calender and specifically any rule changes to Trophy/Challenge Classes??
Cheers BJ

Post by **MYTTUF** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:23 pm

BJ
Lots of stuff discussed that will be tabled & discussed at a comm meeting and changes that will be made will be in version 8 of the rules to be released very early 08. I believe the events were all in the CCDA newsletter and the 1st event is in March.
Jonesy

Post by BJ » Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:52 pm

Any word on Trophy Class rules changes? Not long now til Round One!!

Post by **REVNGQ** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:53 pm

any news on the new rules 8.0

Post by **MYTTUF** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:53 pm

Well it appears there is a CCDA meeting tomorrow night. It may pay to head along to find out what's going on with the rules. Details are in the mag re address & time.
Jonesy

Post by **hottiemonster** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:29 pm

MYTTUF wrote:Well it appears there is a CCDA meeting tomorrow night. It may pay to head along to find out what's going on with the rules. Details are in the mag re address & time.
Jonesy

just checked december issue and the details are not in the mag.

but the details are as follows:

January 23rd 8pm @ HV Jones Pavilion, Kingston Road, Ferntree Gully

Post by **Coighty** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:53 pm

HEARD A RUMOUR THAT TROPHY CLASS HAS BEEN COMBINED WITH CHALLENGE CLASS.

Post by **krimnl** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:29 pm

Coighty wrote:HEARD A RUMOUR THAT TROPHY CLASS HAS BEEN COMBINED WITH CHALLENGE CLASS.

trophy class has been changed to a lesser spec production class.

Post by **tonkatuf** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:03 pm

When will the lesser specs be available for the people wishing to enter a car in Trophy Class?

Post by **Dynamic GQ** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:31 pm

Specs for NEW Production Class include:

No Turbo or Super Charged Petrol
No Intercooled Diesel
Engine must be of same make & model as vehicle (eg no 4.5 or 4.8 in GQ)\
Can run aftermarket engine mgt system
No 24v winch
Single Shocks
Body must retain origional shape (no ute conversions)
Origional wheelbase to be retained
35.5" x 13.5" max tyre size (must fit through gauge 901mm x 343mm)
No replacement guards or bonnet
Must run synthetic rope
Can run laminated diff & upgraded CV & Axels

Post by **REVNGQ** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:27 pm

hey scott do you know when the new ccda rules 8.0 are coming on line

Post by **krimnl** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:19 pm

they should be available to download from the CCDA website very soon.

Post by **REVNGQ** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:28 am

thanx krimnl

Post by **Davidh** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:41 pm

krimnl wrote:they should be available to download from the CCDA website very soon.

Speaking of said website, anyone else getting this on CCDA's homepage?

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Post by **REVNGQ** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:06 pm

yer get the same thing with my CA security it blocks it ever time

Post by **ads80** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:56 pm

dont some gu's come std with intercoolers??????

Post by **cebarry** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:47 am

Question?....surely these class changes will not apply to THIS YEAR's ccda covered events?....
Especially with OBC overseas competitors, who have prep'd their trucks on present classes/ rules, about to load their comp trucks into Containers.....for the long 2+ month trip over to oz!?

It seems each year a similar thing happens with the rules.....which gets everyone in a spin.....

.....

Post by **MYTTUF** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:00 am

ads80 wrote:dont some gu's come std with intercoolers??????

I think they do but as that would be a standard configeration motor set up it would pass as long as it was in standard config. You cannot add, modify or change anything in this regard. I belkieve this to be correct but will stand to be corrected.
Jonesy

Post by **MYTTUF** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:04 am

cebarry wrote:Question?....surely these class changes will not apply to THIS YEAR's ccda covered events?....
Especially with OBC overseas competitors, who have prep'd their trucks on present classes/ rules, about to load their comp trucks into Containers.....for the long 2+ month trip over to oz!?

It seems each year a similar thing happens with the rules.....which gets everyone in a spin..... .....

The rules are done at the start of every year and I thought would have been out at the start of Jan

Anyway there were not many changes to Challenge Class which is the only class at the OBC so all those that built their trucks to the current rules should be ok. All I hope is that they did read the rules so the same thing as last year doesn't happen!!
Jonesy

Post by **cebarry** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:44 am

Anyway there were not many changes to Challenge Class which is the only class at the OBC Jonesy[/quote]

rumour or for real?

Post by **pigletracing** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:54 am

as we all saw with 07 OBC !!!!! INTERNATIONALS run under a different rule book to the rest of us..otherwise the thai team would not have been able to compete !!!!!

Post by **MYTTUF** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:03 am

Celia,
I posted wrongly moisleading you

Last year both challenge & tropy competed. This year with no CCDA trophy class (there is a lesser modded production class) I believe all cars will fit into challenge class which is pretty much the same as last year so all the international teams coming over will be ok if the have built their cars to the rules. (unlike last year

)
Hope that makes more sence and hope they release the rules very soon.
Jonesy

Post by **cebarry** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:19 pm

The International Teams I'm referring to are the Safricans, they have always followed the rules in prep,g their comp trucks......this year 4 teams will be shipping out in a couple weeks ....2 are Challenge and 2 Trophy, so it would be good to know they won't face any last minute changes that's all.

Post by **suzuki boy** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:31 pm

Dynamic GQ wrote:Specs for NEW Production Class include:

No Turbo or Super Charged Petrol
No Intercooled Diesel
Engine must be of same make & model as vehicle (eg no 4.5 or 4.8 in GQ)\
Can run aftermarket engine mgt system
No 24v winch
Single Shocks
Body must retain origional shape (no ute conversions)
Origional wheelbase to be retained
35.5" x 13.5" max tyre size (must fit through gauge 901mm x 343mm)
No replacement guards or bonnet
Must run synthetic rope
Can run laminated diff & upgraded CV & Axels

Does this class need a cage or anything?

Sounds goodto me!

Post by **Britswed** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:38 pm

suzuki boy wrote:
Dynamic GQ wrote:Specs for NEW Production Class include:

No Turbo or Super Charged Petrol
No Intercooled Diesel
Engine must be of same make & model as vehicle (eg no 4.5 or 4.8 in GQ)\
Can run aftermarket engine mgt system
No 24v winch
Single Shocks
Body must retain origional shape (no ute conversions)
Origional wheelbase to be retained
35.5" x 13.5" max tyre size (must fit through gauge 901mm x 343mm)
No replacement guards or bonnet
Must run synthetic rope
Can run laminated diff & upgraded CV & Axels

damm nearly get into this class

Post by **MYTTUF** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:00 pm

cebarry wrote:The International Teams I'm referring to are the Safricans, they have always followed the rules in prep,g their comp trucks......this year 4 teams will be shipping out in a couple weeks ....2 are Challenge and 2 Trophy, so it would be good to know they won't face any last minute changes that's all.

Celia
I reckon the 2 that were built for last years CCDA "trophy class" may need to contact Mike Smith (CCDA pres) and get the specs for the new "production class" to see if they still comply. It'd be a pity if they came all the way out here thinking they were in a lesser class and didn't have to compete against the challenge class cars, when infact they were in the same class. If they'd known this when in South Africa, they may have made different choices about vehicle set up.
I'm not trying to stir, just trying to inform. Hopefully this kind of issue can be sorted.
Jonesy

Post by **Goutman** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:38 am

Specs for NEW Production Class include:

No Turbo or Super Charged Petrol
No Intercooled Diesel
Engine must be of same make & model as vehicle (eg no 4.5 or 4.8 in GQ)\
Can run aftermarket engine mgt system
No 24v winch
Single Shocks
Body must retain origional shape (no ute conversions)
Origional wheelbase to be retained
35.5" x 13.5" max tyre size (must fit through gauge 901mm x 343mm)
No replacement guards or bonnet
Must run synthetic rope
Can run laminated diff & upgraded CV & Axels

What about diff swaps... i know Matt was elevated to challenge for having 60 series diffs under a 40. I have GQ's under a rangie, would this affect this class?

Post by **cebarry** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:18 am

(.............I reckon the 2 that were built for last years CCDA "trophy class" may need to contact Mike Smith (CCDA pres) and get the specs for the new "production class" to see if they still comply. It'd be a pity if they came all the way out here thinking they were in a lesser class and didn't have to compete against the challenge class cars, when infact they were in the same class. If they'd known this when in South Africa, they may have made different choices about vehicle set up. ......)

It all seems crazy cos they built their trucks according to the rules and regs given to them to compete this year.....changing the rules 4 months out

isn't on! what u reckon?

Post by **Dynamic GQ** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:20 am

Yes you still need Rollover Protection.
4 point for Vic Winch. 6 point for Engel Series, Cliff Hanger, OBC, Alpine etc

As for diff swap.
Diffs must be origional for the make & model of your truck

Post by **MYTTUF** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:22 am

cebarry wrote:(.............I reckon the 2 that were built for last years CCDA "trophy class" may need to contact Mike Smith (CCDA pres) and get the specs for the new "production class" to see if they still comply. It'd be a pity if they came all the way out here thinking they were in a lesser class and didn't have to compete against the challenge class cars, when infact they were in the same class. If they'd known this when in South Africa, they may have made different choices about vehicle set up. ......)

It all seems crazy cos they built their trucks according to the rules and regs given to them to compete this year.....changing the rules 4 months out isn't on! what u reckon?

Celia
It is ultimately up to event organisers what rules they use. A few Ateco's ago they used the prior years rules which was confusing for many. The rules are constantly being updated and a released at the start of every year. As I previously posed, I am only trying to inform people of waht is happening. I strongly suggest you or the South African's affected contact The OBC organisers to find out what the go is.
Jonesy

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