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rear leafs

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rear leafs

Post by Funky »

i got an 89 nf pajero LWB with rear leafs and i wanna give it 2 inch lift where can i get them from and what sort of $$ am i looking at im in melb and i currently got 2 inch body lift with wound up torsions.
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Post by Wadezz »

hey dude,
i got the same model pajero i think its a nf 89 3L v6 cept mine dont have leaf springs have they been customly put in or what?
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Post by Funky »

mines a 2.5lt ITD id just like to know what sort of leafs r good with 2" lift and how is the flex from them what brands and rough prices??
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Post by dans-paj92 »

hey mate,
how far wound up your torsion bars???
if u put a bigger lift in the back the front might not be able to match it...
if u have leaf springs in the rear it is cheaper just to get 2" extended shackles... unless you want to carry heavy loads but remember the new leaves are going to be harder and may not articulate as good as the standard springs with 2" extended shackles.... btw pajeros use hilux solid front 2" extended shackles... these can be brought from sanke racing and 4wd1 for $230 a pair...
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Post by Funky »

so there the same from hilux nice should i get the extented ones of are the standard ones lift the pajero if that makes sence and my torsions are raised almost all the way not much down travel but i fit 35's haha
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Post by dans-paj92 »

nah you have to get the extended shackles the normal shackles would be the same size... btw how does your paj go with the 35's??
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Post by Wadezz »

hey again,

When you wind up the torsion bars what does it do and i had a look today and is the torsion bar the one that goes across the front behind the bumper and it sorta looks like a sway bar or something.

Thanks Wade
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Post by 4ePajero »

1989 LWB Exceed
3.2 DiD
5-spd manual & SuperSelect
2" body lift
33" Bridgestone D694 ATs
Front Runner Roof Rack
Bilstein Shocks
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Post by Wadezz »

thx 4ePajero,

That info was really helpfull so how would i go about putting GQ coils in the back then rasing my torsion bars, or would i need to replace the shocks 2?

thank you Wade
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Post by Wadezz »

okay m8,

i looked at some GQ coils im wanting to raise the front end about 2" and i was looking at the GQ coils but there are standard ones and ones that are 2" bigger do i need the 2" bigger ones or still just the standard

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Post by Wadezz »

hey guys,

i just found pajero 1988 - 1991 2" lifted coils for 130 bucks and 30 bucks postage will these do the trick or am i better of getting the GQ ones

thank you Wade
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Post by Wadezz »

hey me again:P,

i just found a full 2" lift kit comes with, 4 shocks, 2 coils and 2 torsion bars for 950 bucks worth getting or recommend the other way and lifting the front end and then putting bigger coils in back

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Post by Funky »

i havent driven with the 35" on yet just put them on to test and they fit with hardly any rub at all at full articulation i wanna post some pics but dont know how.
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Post by Wadezz »

hey m8,

how does ur car go with a 2" body lift and a 2" LIFT KIT, thats 4" all up wouldnt that put alot of stress on the tail shaft and stuff

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Post by Funky »

it seems ok im running 31's for everyday now im looking in getting some 33's and ill be right
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Post by Wadezz »

oo okay,

yeh im buying a 2" lift kit and i was thinking about doing a 2" body lift aswell with 33's but i then thought i may not run so well so i may only get the 2" lift kit but if u recommend it i might look into doing both.

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Post by Funky »

iv just done a 2" body lift and wound up the torsions now i just need to raise the rear to even it out but 4 33" body lift is fine
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Post by Wadezz »

oo yeh i was thinking of tensioning the front up 2" and then putting in the GQ coils to lift back up would that be better than doing a full lift kit worth 1 grand save alot of mnoney and do liek a 2" body lift 2

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Post by Funky »

yeah just depends what u wanna do unless ur gonna fit big tyres u dont need the 2" sus and 2" body
the body lift cost me $210 all up i think it was
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Post by Wadezz »

oo ok well i got a guy selling me the body lift for 150 bucks all up and ill fit them mi self so u think its worth just getting body lift and putting the 33" tyres on??

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Post by dans-paj92 »

hey mate, that bodylift will only be the body lift blocks and the bolts... thats pretty expensive.... dont forget that your handbrake cable may not like being 4" away from the rear brakes either....
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Post by Wadezz »

yeh,

thx m8 what eles will i need to extend?? and where can i buy handbrake cables from can i extend it or do i need a whole new one?
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Post by dans-paj92 »

you need longer shocks, longer brake lines, longer fuel hoses, longer battery cable, longer heater hoses, you have to make sure the clutch fan doesnt take out the lower radiator hose, you have to extend the top radiator hose, move the bullbar and rear bumper up 2" and extend the steering rod... this can be done by buying the superior engineering steering rod extender or by buying a toyota bundera steering rod from a wrecker beacuse the bundera are adjustable...
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Post by Wadezz »

oo ok all that stuff is okay but shocks i have to replace my shockys??
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Post by Wadezz »

well m8,

i was thinking would it be better and almost as good 4wdin to just go like 31" no lift all terrian tyres and just put a 5.25 disel diff in it.

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Post by -Scott- »

dans-paj92 wrote:you need longer shocks, longer brake lines, longer fuel hoses, longer battery cable, longer heater hoses, you have to make sure the clutch fan doesnt take out the lower radiator hose, you have to extend the top radiator hose, move the bullbar and rear bumper up 2" and extend the steering rod... this can be done by buying the superior engineering steering rod extender or by buying a toyota bundera steering rod from a wrecker beacuse the bundera are adjustable...
OK, I don't know about Gen 1 Paj, but for a 2" lift in a Gen 2:

Shocks are not attached to the body - no change required.
Brake lines don't need to be replaced - you need to "feed" the front lines through the wheel arch as you lift, rears are no problem.
Fuel hoses - no problem.
Battery cable - no problem.
Heater hoses - no problem.
Top radiator hose was "stretched" during the lift, and later broke on a trip. Standard replacement hose was installed with a little thought, still going strong 3 years later.
Removed the bottom half of the radiator shroud, no problem with bottom hose.
Steering rod - loosen, lift, tighten. No problem.
Rear bumper - remove before lifting the body. :oops: Mounts were modified and re-used.
Bull bar - I paid my mechanic to lift if for me - my welding sucks.
Fuel filler hose - undo support clamp & allow to "stretch". Now have taller tank, and all is restored to normal.
Rear mudflaps - bridge body & chassis. Undo chassis mounts, lift body, booty fab back to chassis.
Transfer lever was cold-bent by neighbour (judicious application of force.) :armsup:
Mechanic who performed a transfer case swap cut out the floor surround and console - until the swap I hadn't had a problem. It now requires a knack to return from 4H to 2H.

If there was anything else to do, I can't recall at the moment - I'll add things if/when I remember.
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Post by Wadezz »

wow:P

Thank you for all that info thats heaps helpfull so im guessing buy that you do recommend me getting eaitehr a body lift or a lift kit and gett 33" tyres not just getting 31" and not lifting:) :armsup:

hows she perform in the dirt m8? better than not lifted?

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Post by Wadezz »

i have 1700 bucks and i do work full time:P so heaps of money will go into mi car account, well the only money i can spend on my car lmao so i might start in a few weeks how much do u think ill need, for the whole body lift or lift kit and the tyres cause i wanna get it done all togeather.


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Post by Funky »

body lift ur looking at $250 max includes poly blocks and bolts u wont have a problem with ur brake lines or anything else u just might need a oxy to bend the transfer lever a coulpe mill no big deal easy stuff for a 2" lift ur looking at bout $1300 but i think u should go with the 2" body lift and spend the rest on some 33's.
A body lift just lifts the body so u keep the centre of gravity low but with the suspension u left it.
But it all comes down to personal choice i just got a body lift ATM and im happy with it.
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