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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

Here are some Pics of a SAS VIT we just finished.
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And with the new front and rear bars.

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Post by antt »

looks good sam. cruiser diffs with xlink in the front?

and is the rotary buggy in the background getting a vit front clip now?
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Post by Brendan-s »

60 Series diffs.

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Post by Gwagensteve »

That's hot. Nice work Sam.

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Post by suzukiboy »

Very nice.

What size tyres are they?
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Post by bazooked »

what an ugly pos, :finger: , you havent got time to be workin on cars like that :D
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Post by Huggy »

is that x linked n the rear or are my eyes playing up ?
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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

antt wrote:looks good sam. cruiser diffs with xlink in the front?

and is the rotary buggy in the background getting a vit front clip now?
Has x-links front and rear has made the on road handling and drivability unreal.
The buggy got the Vit front clip last year we just havn't put the headlights in.
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OVERKILL ENG wrote: Has x-links front and rear has made the on road handling and drivability unreal.
I always wondered what it would be like with X-links at both ends. It looks nice. Any more pics and details? How high has the suspension lifted it?
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Post by GRPABT1 »

That's how suzuki should have made them :D

Also what size tyres mate?
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Post by v840 »

Thats unreal. :cool:
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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

Hey
Specs are as Follows
60 series diffs
Hilux transfer behind vit 4 speed auto
Custom x-links front and rear
33/12/15 inch tyres
New design front rear and side Barwork.


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OVERKILL ENG wrote:Hey
Specs are as Follows
60 series diffs
Hilux transfer behind vit 4 speed auto
Custom x-links front and rear
33/12/15 inch tyres
New design front rear and side Barwork.


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NICE specs sound familiar to a point ........tyres are too small though


Thought Cramp would of been back making Pizza's by now ......... :finger: not behind the wheel of a hairdressers car :D


What ratio transfer have youse got it running ....... :?: And diff ratio ..4.88 :?:
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A1 wrote:
OVERKILL ENG wrote:Hey
Specs are as Follows
60 series diffs
Hilux transfer behind vit 4 speed auto
Custom x-links front and rear
33/12/15 inch tyres
New design front rear and side Barwork.


SAM
NICE specs sound familiar to a point ........tyres are too small though


Thought Cramp would of been back making Pizza's by now ......... :finger: not behind the wheel of a hairdressers car :D


What ratio transfer have youse got it running ....... :?: And diff ratio ..4.88 :?:

All standard at the moment.
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How's the auto box handling it all? Mine hunts up and down like mad... it's not happy with the 31s...
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Post by RUFF »

Squik wrote:How's the auto box handling it all? Mine hunts up and down like mad... it's not happy with the 31s...
Maybe its you its not happy with :finger:

after all its not really a 4wd is it?
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Post by RUFF »

OVERKILL ENG wrote:
antt wrote:looks good sam. cruiser diffs with xlink in the front?

and is the rotary buggy in the background getting a vit front clip now?
Has x-links front and rear has made the on road handling and drivability unreal.
The buggy got the Vit front clip last year we just havn't put the headlights in.
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Are you guys locking the X-Links out on Road?
Is it running Sway Bars?

Did Sean have that front on at Grafton?
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RUFF wrote:
OVERKILL ENG wrote:
antt wrote:looks good sam. cruiser diffs with xlink in the front?

and is the rotary buggy in the background getting a vit front clip now?
Has x-links front and rear has made the on road handling and drivability unreal.
The buggy got the Vit front clip last year we just havn't put the headlights in.
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Are you guys locking the X-Links out on Road?
Is it running Sway Bars?


Did Sean have that front on at Grafton?

No sean didn't have the front on till LARA the old one got destroyed at Grafton :D

The x-links aren't locked out for the road and no swaybars.

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Nice bar work.

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Post by RUFF »

OVERKILL ENG wrote: The x-links aren't locked out for the road and no swaybars.

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Everyone else complains about the onroad handling of the Xlink if its not locked out. What have you guys done or not done to make this thing drive so great on road?
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RUFF wrote:
OVERKILL ENG wrote: The x-links aren't locked out for the road and no swaybars.

SAM
Everyone else complains about the onroad handling of the Xlink if its not locked out. What have you guys done or not done to make this thing drive so great on road?
Heavy rate coils, light weight car? Then again the wider diffs would then place more leverage on the springs possibly making it worse.
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im keen to know also, i really cant see it driving great on the road unretianed with 1 x-link let alone 2.

can i also add what was the point of fitting a x-link to the rear when the std type (i know its not std type now) setup would flex just as much if not more, especially the same setup but modded?

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RUFF wrote:
OVERKILL ENG wrote: The x-links aren't locked out for the road and no swaybars.

SAM
Everyone else complains about the onroad handling of the Xlink if its not locked out. What have you guys done or not done to make this thing drive so great on road?
Using the right spring rate and not using a spring that is too long for the aplication. And also we spend lot of time getting all the steering geometry spot on (castor, pan hard angles etc).

We changed the rear cause the standard setup is crap and we wanted the truck to be balanced front to rear which also adds to the drivability.

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so is it road legal? ( aus or nsw ) and can you do this to a XL7 wagon? :)
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Post by Brendan-s »

hard to tell from the pics but does that front bar protrude forward? I thought stingers were frowned upon...
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fordy1 wrote:so is it road legal? ( aus or nsw ) and can you do this to a XL7 wagon? :)
Yes on both counts.
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OVERKILL ENG wrote:
RUFF wrote:
OVERKILL ENG wrote: The x-links aren't locked out for the road and no swaybars.

SAM
Everyone else complains about the onroad handling of the Xlink if its not locked out. What have you guys done or not done to make this thing drive so great on road?
Using the right spring rate and not using a spring that is too long for the aplication. And also we spend lot of time getting all the steering geometry spot on (castor, pan hard angles etc).

We changed the rear cause the standard setup is crap and we wanted the truck to be balanced front to rear which also adds to the drivability.

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So your not using the same coils/rates you usually supply on zook coil conversions?

I can see that with all the geometry correct it should drive much better than any 6" lifted 80 or Patrol with the Xlink. An XLink on its own doesnt fix any of the geometry problems the 80 or Patrol get when lifted.
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OVERKILL ENG wrote:
RUFF wrote:
OVERKILL ENG wrote: The x-links aren't locked out for the road and no swaybars.

SAM
Everyone else complains about the onroad handling of the Xlink if its not locked out. What have you guys done or not done to make this thing drive so great on road?
Using the right spring rate and not using a spring that is too long for the aplication. And also we spend lot of time getting all the steering geometry spot on (castor, pan hard angles etc).

We changed the rear cause the standard setup is crap and we wanted the truck to be balanced front to rear which also adds to the drivability.

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Now if we could supply our own axles and buy the rest of the components as a kit that would be :cool:
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RUFF wrote:
OVERKILL ENG wrote:
RUFF wrote:
OVERKILL ENG wrote: The x-links aren't locked out for the road and no swaybars.

SAM
Everyone else complains about the onroad handling of the Xlink if its not locked out. What have you guys done or not done to make this thing drive so great on road?
Using the right spring rate and not using a spring that is too long for the aplication. And also we spend lot of time getting all the steering geometry spot on (castor, pan hard angles etc).

We changed the rear cause the standard setup is crap and we wanted the truck to be balanced front to rear which also adds to the drivability.

SAM
So your not using the same coils/rates you usually supply on zook coil conversions?

I can see that with all the geometry correct it should drive much better than any 6" lifted 80 or Patrol with the Xlink. An XLink on its own doesnt fix any of the geometry problems the 80 or Patrol get when lifted.

Correct we set the car up from scratch with the X-link not as an after thought to get more travel so tht allowed us to get everything spot on so it drives good.
The springs aren't the same as the zook coils we used to use. unlike a lot of lifted cars we have used the shortest coil we can to reduce the roll and swaying associated with a longer spring.

CJ making a kit is very hard as everyone wants something different. We have designed this with a certain spring and height someone goes and uses different springs or puts the spring mounts on in a different spot and that can change the geometry by huge amounts makes it drive like shit then our kit gets the bad name.Even the placement for the x-link pivot is very critical to get the geometry right.The only way we could do it as a kit would be to supply everything including axle housings with everything welded on already and would have to make all the spring mounts and that only fit one way and for the amount of kits I think we would sell over the ones we fit ourselves the extra work isn't justified.

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