Tube Buggy

Post by **GURU** » Sun Dec 14, 2003 10:45 pm

Street legal or not...it's going to ROCK !!

Can't wait to see it drive

Post by **Bodge** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 6:55 am

Strange Rover wrote:Getting into and out of this thing is oging to cause problems!!

Sam

You're building it mate - make the opening bigger :roll:

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 9:57 am

Bodge wrote:
Strange Rover wrote:Getting into and out of this thing is oging to cause problems!!

Sam

You're building it mate - make the opening bigger

Looks awesome Sam. Won't you have to make it easier to get in and out of if you want to get it registered?

Post by **GRIMACE** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 9:58 am

I have a small build....give it to me when your finished

Post by **POS** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:34 pm

Bodge wrote:
Strange Rover wrote:Getting into and out of this thing is oging to cause problems!!

Sam

You're building it mate - make the opening bigger

Yes you could make the opening bigger, but this thing is BUILT for comps, and Strength is a major issue. The more bends you put in (so you can get in :roll:

) the weaker it will be. The whole objective of a COMP TUBE BUGGY is to get it as light as possible and yet retaining strenght. If you want something easy to get in and out of then buy a Roles Royce!!!!!!

Hell, i am probably a couple of inch's taller than Sam and carrying an extra 30 kilos of Lard and i will be building mine basically the same.

I couldn't care less if its slightly hard to get in, as long as it PROTECTS me in a Roll over i don't care!!

Another view of mine is that the harder it is to get out the more of a reason i have to stay in and wheel even more!!!

Post by **Flange Raider** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:52 pm

POS wrote:
Bodge wrote:
Strange Rover wrote:Getting into and out of this thing is oging to cause problems!!

Sam

You're building it mate - make the opening bigger

Yes you could make the opening bigger, but this thing is BUILT for comps, and Strength is a major issue. The more bends you put in (so you can get in ) the weaker it will be. The whole objective of a COMP TUBE BUGGY is to get it as light as possible and yet retaining strenght. If you want something easy to get in and out of then buy a Roles Royce!!!!!!

Hell, i am probably a couple of inch's taller than Sam and carrying an extra 30 kilos of Lard and i will be building mine basically the same.

I couldn't care less if its slightly hard to get in, as long as it PROTECTS me in a Roll over i don't care!!

Another view of mine is that the harder it is to get out the more of a reason i have to stay in and wheel even more!!!

build one with a reclining seat and a bar fridge... you'd never have to get out. :lol:

Post by **Strange Rover** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:55 pm

Got most of the frame triangled out today. Got most of the steel in there although I could still add a bit more to totally tie it all together. Starting to get a bit heavy now - it weighs 156KG but feels very solid.

Sam

Post by **humphey** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:57 pm

i totaly agee on strengh as for rollin over a bit bigger opening mite not be a bad thing in case of a bad accident. is sam's rig goin to have any sort windscreen fitted ie rino glass or perspex. or just tube bars .

Post by **Strange Rover** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 9:01 pm

Planning on getting up first thing tomorrow and welding it all up (only tacked together ATM) and try to get the motor/auto/transfer sitting in there although got to bolt all this together first and we still got a bit of mucking around to do yet to adapt the P76 motor to the ZF auto but its almost there. Probably put the lower links back in as well so that the axles sit in the right place and then its onto the steering box and panhard (which I will do the same as my mog rover) and rear A frame.

Should be driving by Christmas --- NOT cause I got to go on holidays for a week and a bit :cry:

Sam

Post by **Strange Rover** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 9:04 pm

humphey wrote:i totaly agee on strengh as for rollin over a bit bigger opening mite not be a bad thing in case of a bad accident. is sam's rig goin to have any sort windscreen fitted ie rino glass or perspex. or just tube bars .

No windscreen for now although if im going to do the registration thing it will have to have one and lots of other stuff but I will cross that bridge when the time comes. It wont be hard to put a windscreen it it though.

Sam

Post by **Flange Raider** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 9:23 pm

Strange Rover wrote:
humphey wrote:i totaly agee on strengh as for rollin over a bit bigger opening mite not be a bad thing in case of a bad accident. is sam's rig goin to have any sort windscreen fitted ie rino glass or perspex. or just tube bars .

No windscreen for now although if im going to do the registration thing it will have to have one and lots of other stuff but I will cross that bridge when the time comes. It wont be hard to put a windscreen it it though.

Sam

I read somewhere on here about a guy that went for a roadwothy with a cracked windscreen.. they said it wouldn't get one with the cracked windscreen, he said what about without it, they said yeah, so he pulled it off, had no windscreen, and was given the roadworthy.. I can't see how that happened, but I read it on here somewhere, so it MUST be true.

:lol:

Post by **POS** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 9:30 pm

Strange Rover wrote:Got most of the frame triangled out today. Got most of the steel in there although I could still add a bit more to totally tie it all together. Starting to get a bit heavy now - it weighs 156KG but feels very solid.

Sam

MMmmmm thats pretty bloody good still :!:

How much does the Engine/auto and t/case weigh :?:

Post by **Strange Rover** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 9:52 pm

Fark nose

Post by **RUFF** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 9:53 pm

My totaly Bare hilux single cab with no panels would have been heavier than this Tube Frame. Im talking Cab no Frame :shock:

Post by **humphey** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:14 pm

holy carp that is light . :armsup:

Post by **POS** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:16 pm

humphey wrote:holy carp that is light .

Nearly lighter than YOU!!!! :finger:

Post by **humphey** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:31 pm

i carn't help i look like a strainer post .u better build mine a lot lighter :finger:

is the line movin yet

Post by **Strange Rover** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:44 pm

humphey wrote:i carn't help i look like a strainer post .u better build mine a lot lighter is the line movin yet

Very slowely but there IS a line at least.

Sam

Post by **Bodge** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 9:06 am

Strange Rover wrote:Got most of the frame triangled out today. Got most of the steel in there although I could still add a bit more to totally tie it all together. Starting to get a bit heavy now - it weighs 156KG but feels very solid.

Sam

My effin co-pilot weighs more than that!

Post by **Bodge** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 9:08 am

But now for the important question....

What colour is it going to be :finger:

Post by **spazbot** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 9:21 am

is that a protools bender ???
what size tube you using ??
the roof is a little low on the head isnt it or will the seats sit lower

Post by **bubs** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 10:20 am

sam

why the hybrid axles and not complete hilux axles

is it due to the offset rear housing?

using original suspension mounts on the housings?

are they wider?

looks exlcellant :cool:

Post by **bj on roids** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 11:28 am

bubs wrote:sam

why the hybrid axles and not complete hilux axles

is it due to the offset rear housing?

using original suspension mounts on the housings?

are they wider?

looks exlcellant

I think he is using standard rover links, so they bolt right onto the housings, and he has modified axles in the housings, which are probably a lot stronger than stock toyota, plus he gets a full floater rear, with disc brakes using the rangie stuff.

*disclaimer, i may be wrong, not to mention that he had those axles already sitting there!!!

Post by **RoldIT** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 12:59 pm

I think we're all missing the point here. With a new buggy Sam won't need the MogRover anymore ...

I'VE GOT FIRST DIBS!!! :twisted:

Post by **Strange Rover** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 6:52 pm

spazbot wrote:is that a protools bender ???
what size tube you using ??
the roof is a little low on the head isnt it or will the seats sit lower

Speedworks bender, 1 5/8in (42mmOD by about 3.2mm wall), seats are going to be 2.5in lower.

Sam

Post by **Strange Rover** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 6:55 pm

bubs wrote:sam

why the hybrid axles and not complete hilux axles

is it due to the offset rear housing?

using original suspension mounts on the housings?

are they wider?

looks exlcellant

I wanted to base the whole thing on a stock range rover. So that in theory I could supply sombody with a chassis and they could bolt all their range rover stuff into it.

And yes the rover axles are about 100mm wider (I think)

And also as Rob said I already had the axles.

Sam

Post by **humphey** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:03 pm

sam what sort of $ would it be worth to build just a chassie to suit another style of rig / toyots / nissan and so on . just a rough idea.

mate that rig is lookin sweet .

Post by **Strange Rover** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:03 pm

Got the motor and seat and steering wheel and pedals all sitting in their correct position. Now all I got to do is weld them in. Also bolted the axles back in.

Sam

Post by **humphey** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:39 pm

aren't u blokes sleepin down there ? the amont off work gettin done is unbliveable . :armsup:

don't hold back now .

Post by **landy_man** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:45 pm

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