4wd systems lokka

Post by **Big_GQ** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:08 pm

going to purchase front and rear any one had and dramas with these?

Post by **Tailspin** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:11 pm

I as well as 8 others that I know have one in the front diffs of GQ's and have had no major worries, other than having the dowls and springs breaking once in mine(repair kit's only $30 inc postage).

The only thing that would be good, would be able to turn them off for when driving up a beach for example would be handy, but certainly no big deal.
You can also turn under power going up hills still, which can be an advantage.

Post by **dansedgli** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:48 pm

They only sell front ones.

Post by **cooki_monsta** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:24 pm

indeed they do dan

Post by **Bad JuJu** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:52 pm

They make them for h233 Front and Rear. Not available for h260.

Post by **85 mq** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:13 am

Got one in the front of my MQ no dramas so far, been to cape york and back and some hard tracks up the watagans.

Post by **Jimbo** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:53 am

How hard are these to install on the front? Is it worth just paying some1? I bought one for my toyota a few years ago for $300 delivered from the states, anyone know if they have them over there....great exchange rate!!!

Post by **cooki_monsta** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:11 pm

yea they do, also detroit lockers are in america and work the same way, maybe another group buy?

Post by **Rosey55** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:06 pm

i've got these lokka in the front and rear of my truck, they've been installed for approx 2yrs, sorry to say guys but i think the front is the biggest waste of time ever. The rear is ok, although makes driving around town pretty antisocial, chirps the tires a fair bit. Can be scary in the rain in SWB.

The front is terrible in my opinion. I'm getting rid of it. I find I can't drive bush tracks at speed, can't make tight turn arounds, can't drive any side slopes when slippery, poor on sand. Front I would definitely speed the extra to get a air locker next time.

Installation is easy, 2hrs a diff and you'll have time to spare.

cheers

Post by **mattsluxtruck** » Sun May 18, 2008 9:24 pm

Bad JuJu wrote:They make them for h233 Front and Rear. Not available for h260.

Always been the other way around from what I know.
Where are you getting your information from?

Post by **Red04VXE** » Sun May 18, 2008 9:34 pm

Rosey55 wrote:i've got these lokka in the front and rear of my truck, they've been installed for approx 2yrs, sorry to say guys but i think the front is the biggest waste of time ever. The rear is ok, although makes driving around town pretty antisocial, chirps the tires a fair bit. Can be scary in the rain in SWB.

The front is terrible in my opinion. I'm getting rid of it. I find I can't drive bush tracks at speed, can't make tight turn arounds, can't drive any side slopes when slippery, poor on sand. Front I would definitely speed the extra to get a air locker next time.

Installation is easy, 2hrs a diff and you'll have time to spare.

cheers

If your driving at speed wouldn't you just put it back to 2H?

Post by **coxy321** » Mon May 19, 2008 11:47 am

Or undo one of the hubs so you've got 3WD??

Post by **love ke70** » Mon May 19, 2008 5:21 pm

and if its chirping wheels around corners its obviously set too tight

Post by **GUte** » Mon May 19, 2008 8:16 pm

Have got an Air locker in the front.
Had an auto locker in the front prior.
The auto locker was brilliant.

Al.

Post by **Tom0** » Mon May 19, 2008 8:45 pm

What are the dollar$$ roughly on these things?

Post by **dansedgli** » Mon May 19, 2008 8:48 pm

Post by **VXPSI** » Mon May 19, 2008 9:08 pm

im thinking about putting 1 in the front and rear of my mq swb soon. have read avey posts but are the fronts alright on sliprish hills an stuff.

good points and bad points would help me decide, cheers fellas

Post by **love ke70** » Tue May 20, 2008 3:21 pm

GUte wrote:Have got an Air locker in the front.
Had an auto locker in the front prior.
The auto locker was brilliant.

Al.

which do you prefer?
please tell us more, your probably the man to ask having driven both

i can see the issue with the auto locker, in slippery shit where there is the equivalent of f*uck all traction it wont be enough to slip the gear, so it will try and slip, nothing a rope, some good driving or a winch cant stop though...

Post by **GUte** » Tue May 20, 2008 6:17 pm

Mine is a Lock Right from the States and at the time I paid something like $435 to my door.
I don't think 4wd systems locker is any different.
Honestly, for the money you cannot go wrong.
I loved my auto locker and yes you have to change your driving style a bit to suit.
The auto locker is really an auto unlocker.
To turn you just back off, it's load on the diff that helps keep it locked.
The very few times that you'd need to unlock the diff to get around an obstacle, get of your arse and back a hub off!
What traction you gained for the money to me was great.
You see alot of posts where people want to know what to get with there $1500, a locker or winch.
I reckon get both.
An auto locker for $500 and a 9000lb Warn of Ebay to me is the way to go.
Have a look at the ratios of the XD9000 and the 9.5xp and they are the same.
Wack a 6HP motor on the XD and what have you got?
The 9.5 xp has the fastest line speed under load.
The pro's against the con's are alot greater.
That's for me anyway.
Anyway i'd still have auto locker if I didn't get the Air locker with centre and 4.3 gears cheap.

Al.

Post by **Tom0** » Tue May 20, 2008 6:46 pm

GUte wrote: ...
The auto locker is really an auto unlocker.

Great description.

The idea that you can just unlock your hubs is great, except I have auto-locking hubs that I can force locked, but can't force unlocked. It's locked or auto. =(

Post by **azzad** » Tue May 20, 2008 9:08 pm

Then back to 2 wheel drive in the rare situations you need to turn that sharp?

Post by **whitemav** » Tue May 20, 2008 9:36 pm

For a un-educated fool like me the "cheap" auto lockers become very expensive once a 4wd specialist has chucked his tax on it. Not taking into acount the compressor a air locker was not much more for me.
Different story if you can fit it yourself.

Wish at the time I knew someone to fit one, I think there great.
But the cheapest I could get it fitted for was $500 each end.
They must have seen me coming.

Post by **coxy321** » Tue May 20, 2008 11:50 pm

whitemav wrote:For a un-educated fool like me the "cheap" auto lockers become very expensive once a 4wd specialist has chucked his tax on it. Not taking into acount the compressor a air locker was not much more for me.

So did you get really crappy pricing on the auto lockers to start off with?

whitemav wrote:Wish at the time I knew someone to fit one, I think there great.
But the cheapest I could get it fitted for was $500 each end.
They must have seen me coming.

$500 each end for any of the "auto locker" type devices is pretty cheap considering that they normally sell for $499 each anyway. Or are you reffering to the $500 as the labour charge to put it in?

Coxy

Post by **azzad** » Wed May 21, 2008 8:40 am

If its going to be $500 an end to fit an auto locker its going to be at least that for an Air Locker install.

Dazza

Post by **whitemav** » Wed May 21, 2008 10:24 am

coxy321 wrote: $500 each end for any of the "auto locker" type devices is pretty cheap considering that they normally sell for $499 each anyway. Or are you reffering to the $500 as the labour charge to put it in?

Coxy

Yeah mate, that was the labour charge.
Would have been around $1000 each end fitted including parts.

Post by **duallux** » Fri May 23, 2008 1:13 pm

Sorry this isn't a comment on the lokka, but to whitemav re $1000 an end for auto locker. I investigated an ARB air locker at the Bris 4x4 show in April and it was going to cost $1980 for a front, fitted with compressor. I also spoke to TJM about a Prolocker and i believe they are slightly more expensive. Thee were "show special" prices on a 2005 GU wagon.

Yes the labour is expensive, but they do need to be set up properly to ensure the best operation.

Cheers Matt

Post by **whitemav** » Fri May 23, 2008 5:43 pm

duallux wrote:Sorry this isn't a comment on the lokka, but to whitemav re $1000 an end for auto locker. I investigated an ARB air locker at the Bris 4x4 show in April and it was going to cost $1980 for a front, fitted with compressor. I also spoke to TJM about a Prolocker and i believe they are slightly more expensive. Thee were "show special" prices on a 2005 GU wagon.

Yes the labour is expensive, but they do need to be set up properly to ensure the best operation.

Cheers Matt

Yeah see where your coming from but I already had a compressor and could not fit either locker type myself.
In the end I got a airlocker fitted for a good price, and am happy with it.
If I wasnt a automotive retard, I would have got a $500 lokka and fitted it myself, or got one of my mates to fit it for a couple of slabs.

Post by **SuperiorEngineering** » Fri May 23, 2008 7:27 pm

Auto lockers are fine for most applications "providing" the person who fits them does it correctly and checks and/ or adjusts the tolerances correctly. Some guys just chuck them in and winge why they are shit.
We have fitted heaps of them as well as air lockers and only had one hilux that had some problems.
I have owned vehicles with both air lockers and auto lockers in them and they both have their good and bad points.
Air lockers fail with compressors , seals and air lines but you can turn them of when you want, auto lockers if you snap a pin it just stays locked , no big worry just unlock your hub if need be.
Auto lockers sacrifice a small amount of turning circle.
For any one who has a auto locker that " chirps turning corners has not installed it properly .

Post by **coxy321** » Fri May 23, 2008 10:05 pm

I'm guessing that the auto locking centres come with instructions as far as tolerances and stuff go?? I didn't realise that there was really any adjustments to set on them.

Coxy

Post by **Wish I had coils** » Fri May 23, 2008 10:06 pm

mk lwb you can't aford any loss of turning circle, or is that just mine

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