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+50 light bulbs
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+50 light bulbs
Just wondering on the different brands of +50 bulbs and whether any are better than others.
I know of phillips and narva. Any others?
(prices and where to buy would be great too)
and yes I tried search here, googled this site and web google to not much avail)
I know of phillips and narva. Any others?
(prices and where to buy would be great too)
and yes I tried search here, googled this site and web google to not much avail)
Drive it as far as you can then sleep in it and get up and do it all again!
Fitted them to my Hilux yesterday, they seem to be OK.pantheas18_hj47 wrote:did a quick search and couldnt find any info on the +80's
any1 got a link or know the specs?
[quote="Harb"]Well I'm guessing that they didn't think everyone would carry on like a big bunch of sooky girls over it like they have........[/quote]
sierrajimsierrajim wrote:Fitted them to my Hilux yesterday, they seem to be OK.pantheas18_hj47 wrote:did a quick search and couldnt find any info on the +80's any1 got a link or know the specs?
any more thoughts on the plus 80's? Heading into darwin tomorrow and will either chase these or bite the bullet and buy the IPF Fatboys
Decisions decisions
I found the IPF fatboys good. Low power draw but i couldn't pick the difference between them and my std halogen 80/120's (or similar).
Pitty they're ~$140 a pair and i couldn't afford to buy a pair to replace the one i destroyed. The reason i ran them in the first place was they they run cooler and are therefor less likely to smash/smash reflectors when splashed/dunked.
-Stu
Pitty they're ~$140 a pair and i couldn't afford to buy a pair to replace the one i destroyed. The reason i ran them in the first place was they they run cooler and are therefor less likely to smash/smash reflectors when splashed/dunked.
-Stu
I have no expirence with the IPF's. The 80+ are a marked imporvement on the 50+ that i thought were an absolute waste of money (you couldn't see anything when the roads were wet, perhaps too white??). These have a blue tip which must help out somewhat as they're pretty good in wet conditions.Slug wrote:sierrajimsierrajim wrote:Fitted them to my Hilux yesterday, they seem to be OK.pantheas18_hj47 wrote:did a quick search and couldnt find any info on the +80's any1 got a link or know the specs?
any more thoughts on the plus 80's? Heading into darwin tomorrow and will either chase these or bite the bullet and buy the IPF Fatboys
Decisions decisions
[quote="Harb"]Well I'm guessing that they didn't think everyone would carry on like a big bunch of sooky girls over it like they have........[/quote]
I found the +50 to be not noticably 'whiter' than a standard globe, just brighter.sierrajim wrote:I have no expirence with the IPF's. The 80+ are a marked imporvement on the 50+ that i thought were an absolute waste of money (you couldn't see anything when the roads were wet, perhaps too white??). These have a blue tip which must help out somewhat as they're pretty good in wet conditions.Slug wrote:sierrajimsierrajim wrote:Fitted them to my Hilux yesterday, they seem to be OK.pantheas18_hj47 wrote:did a quick search and couldnt find any info on the +80's any1 got a link or know the specs?
any more thoughts on the plus 80's? Heading into darwin tomorrow and will either chase these or bite the bullet and buy the IPF Fatboys
Decisions decisions
I also found that any globe with a blue colouring was terrible in the wet weather conditions.
How much are the +80s in H4 60/55?
[quote="RockyF70 - Coming out of the closet"]i'd be rushing out and buying an IFS rocky[/quote]
http://www.powerbulbs.com/
You can get the Philips Extreme or Osram Night Breaker (+90%) from just over $50 with free delivery.
I've bought from them before and the bulbs arrived well packed.
They also sell the normal +50% bulbs.
You can get the Philips Extreme or Osram Night Breaker (+90%) from just over $50 with free delivery.
I've bought from them before and the bulbs arrived well packed.
They also sell the normal +50% bulbs.
David
Here's something that should be of interest:
http://forums.overlander.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=54141
(I don't want to re write everything here.... )
http://forums.overlander.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=54141
(I don't want to re write everything here.... )
David
I was running + 50s and 90/130s but i got sick of replacing globes, i went through 1 every 6 months or so. Also i like to run the clear aftermarket lenses with the diffuser on the reflector, which gives you a cleaner light, this was being discoloured by the heat of the higher wattage globes. I have just gone to a set of 55w H4 HIDs and the difference is amazing. Words cannot explain how good they are. It is like daylight for the first 150m in front on low beam. Well worth the $250 outlay.
Andy
Andy
Is the light scattered using a HID in a normal reflector? I thought you weren't meant to use them without projector lenses?andrew e wrote:I was running + 50s and 90/130s but i got sick of replacing globes, i went through 1 every 6 months or so. Also i like to run the clear aftermarket lenses with the diffuser on the reflector, which gives you a cleaner light, this was being discoloured by the heat of the higher wattage globes. I have just gone to a set of 55w H4 HIDs and the difference is amazing. Words cannot explain how good they are. It is like daylight for the first 150m in front on low beam. Well worth the $250 outlay.
Andy
[quote="RockyF70 - Coming out of the closet"]i'd be rushing out and buying an IFS rocky[/quote]
I now run the +80s (thanks to this thread back in the day) and am very happy with them.
They are noticably brighter than the +60s I was running beforehand.
I would like to see some tests like above on the IPF Fatboys, to see if the extra cost is really worth it.
I spent $80 on the +80s, but spending $140 on Fatboys is nearly up there with HIDs.
They are noticably brighter than the +60s I was running beforehand.
I would like to see some tests like above on the IPF Fatboys, to see if the extra cost is really worth it.
I spent $80 on the +80s, but spending $140 on Fatboys is nearly up there with HIDs.
[quote="RockyF70 - Coming out of the closet"]i'd be rushing out and buying an IFS rocky[/quote]
Its not a projector, its this typeHotFourOk wrote:Is the light scattered using a HID in a normal reflector? I thought you weren't meant to use them without projector lenses?andrew e wrote:I was running + 50s and 90/130s but i got sick of replacing globes, i went through 1 every 6 months or so. Also i like to run the clear aftermarket lenses with the diffuser on the reflector, which gives you a cleaner light, this was being discoloured by the heat of the higher wattage globes. I have just gone to a set of 55w H4 HIDs and the difference is amazing. Words cannot explain how good they are. It is like daylight for the first 150m in front on low beam. Well worth the $250 outlay.
Andy
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PAIR-OF-NEW-ALTE ... dZViewItem
So the HID globe utilises a slide mechanism to cutoff the light from the bottom half of the reflector when on low beam then?andrew e wrote:Its not a projector, its this typeHotFourOk wrote:Is the light scattered using a HID in a normal reflector? I thought you weren't meant to use them without projector lenses?andrew e wrote:I was running + 50s and 90/130s but i got sick of replacing globes, i went through 1 every 6 months or so. Also i like to run the clear aftermarket lenses with the diffuser on the reflector, which gives you a cleaner light, this was being discoloured by the heat of the higher wattage globes. I have just gone to a set of 55w H4 HIDs and the difference is amazing. Words cannot explain how good they are. It is like daylight for the first 150m in front on low beam. Well worth the $250 outlay.
Andy
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PAIR-OF-NEW-ALTE ... dZViewItem
[quote="RockyF70 - Coming out of the closet"]i'd be rushing out and buying an IFS rocky[/quote]
HID upgrades to low beam are definitely the go if you can do it without using a "shuttered" lamp. I would expect the shutter mechanism to last all of about 5 minutes in a 4WD on corrugated roads.
The best thing you can do for a hilux is to make / buy a replacement harness for the headlights. If you havent noticed the wiring to the headlights in a hilux is so undersize it's almost dangerous. Improve this and you'll solve the voltage drop problem and your lights will work much better.
If you want to HID it with reliability replace the lamp with a HID for low beam and wire up a set of spotties for high beam - just make sure that the low beam stays lit while your high beam is on - you don't want to be caught waiting for your HID lowbeams to warm up after you've turned off your spotties.
M+S
The best thing you can do for a hilux is to make / buy a replacement harness for the headlights. If you havent noticed the wiring to the headlights in a hilux is so undersize it's almost dangerous. Improve this and you'll solve the voltage drop problem and your lights will work much better.
If you want to HID it with reliability replace the lamp with a HID for low beam and wire up a set of spotties for high beam - just make sure that the low beam stays lit while your high beam is on - you don't want to be caught waiting for your HID lowbeams to warm up after you've turned off your spotties.
M+S
HIS: '90 FJ73 Awaiting funds for mods
OURS: '00 HZ105 Cruiser - HIDs, GPS, UHF, LF240s, BFG MTs, BB, Steps, Outback Drawers . . . .
OURS: '00 HZ105 Cruiser - HIDs, GPS, UHF, LF240s, BFG MTs, BB, Steps, Outback Drawers . . . .
Have a look at this thread:
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic137190.php
There's a bit on PLUS30 / PLUS50 / PLUS200 globes in there.
I'm not a huge fan of the "just replace it with a bigger one" theory, as it usually causes dramas down the track.
JMO
Coxy
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic137190.php
There's a bit on PLUS30 / PLUS50 / PLUS200 globes in there.
I'm not a huge fan of the "just replace it with a bigger one" theory, as it usually causes dramas down the track.
JMO
Coxy
Well I'm very happy with the Osram Night Breakers after just returning from a night drive in the rain. They seem to have made a very noticeable improvement.
The interesting thing in those pics is both the Philips Xtreme and Osram Night Breaker made obvious improvements on low beam, but I'm having trouble picking up much difference (improvement) with the Xtremes on high beam. http://users.on.net/~murcod/bulb%20test/
The interesting thing in those pics is both the Philips Xtreme and Osram Night Breaker made obvious improvements on low beam, but I'm having trouble picking up much difference (improvement) with the Xtremes on high beam. http://users.on.net/~murcod/bulb%20test/
David
Yep, via solonoid with a really strong magnetic return . Pretty trick.HotFourOk wrote: So the HID globe utilises a slide mechanism to cutoff the light from the bottom half of the reflector when on low beam then?
Have you ever heard of this happening? I know of people who have had them on their 4wds for a while now (including off road) with no failures to date.Mick_n_Sal wrote:HID upgrades to low beam are definitely the go if you can do it without using a "shuttered" lamp. I would expect the shutter mechanism to last all of about 5 minutes in a 4WD on corrugated roads.
M+S
andrew e wrote:Yep, via solonoid with a really strong magnetic return . Pretty trick.HotFourOk wrote: So the HID globe utilises a slide mechanism to cutoff the light from the bottom half of the reflector when on low beam then?
Have you ever heard of this happening? I know of people who have had them on their 4wds for a while now (including off road) with no failures to date.Mick_n_Sal wrote:HID upgrades to low beam are definitely the go if you can do it without using a "shuttered" lamp. I would expect the shutter mechanism to last all of about 5 minutes in a 4WD on corrugated roads.
M+S
There are 3 types of hi/lo bulb mechanisms that I know of.
The sheild moves in and out, the bulb moves in and out, and where the bulb slides at an angle of around 20 or 30 degrees.
I personally prefer where the bulb is stationary and the sheild moves in and out. Has been in my ute since Sep 2005 and were on all the way up the oodna and back which was a decent test for corrugations. Been fine.
Bushies: http://www.angelfire.com/on4/bushy5560/ http://www.angelfire.com/on4/bushy5561/
Lightforce HID conversion stuff: http://www.angelfire.com/on4/bushy5551/
Lightforce HID conversion stuff: http://www.angelfire.com/on4/bushy5551/
I sure as hell haven't killed my bulbs or hi/lo solenoids, don't even look close to doing so.andrew e wrote:Yep, via solonoid with a really strong magnetic return . Pretty trick.HotFourOk wrote: So the HID globe utilises a slide mechanism to cutoff the light from the bottom half of the reflector when on low beam then?
Have you ever heard of this happening? I know of people who have had them on their 4wds for a while now (including off road) with no failures to date.Mick_n_Sal wrote:HID upgrades to low beam are definitely the go if you can do it without using a "shuttered" lamp. I would expect the shutter mechanism to last all of about 5 minutes in a 4WD on corrugated roads.
M+S
But a combination of water and really REALLY severe vibrations have appeared to killed one of my ballasts.
The whole system seems to be fairly water resistant, I should have given the ballasts a few coats of silicon spray before they went in (and not mount them behind the bullbar) double
Have previously made up a few pairs of extension leads, so that the ballasts can be mounted further up inside the engine bay.
Have since found plugs and sockets to fit, and whenever I get the time, will make up some for sale. Am sure that there is a decent market for these...
THe normal distance betwen the bulb and the ballast is suually around the 300 to 450mm mark, dependant on kit.
Can extend the distance upwards to 1500mm with no-ill effects that i can see on the bulb striking either cold or hot.
Have since found plugs and sockets to fit, and whenever I get the time, will make up some for sale. Am sure that there is a decent market for these...
THe normal distance betwen the bulb and the ballast is suually around the 300 to 450mm mark, dependant on kit.
Can extend the distance upwards to 1500mm with no-ill effects that i can see on the bulb striking either cold or hot.
Bushies: http://www.angelfire.com/on4/bushy5560/ http://www.angelfire.com/on4/bushy5561/
Lightforce HID conversion stuff: http://www.angelfire.com/on4/bushy5551/
Lightforce HID conversion stuff: http://www.angelfire.com/on4/bushy5551/
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