Who has tryed the Birfield Eliminator Kit

Website · Post by **LuxyBoy** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:19 am

Replacing the rear axles and thinking that i should make the front stronger at the same time

Is anyone using the birfield eliminator kit that changes the outer axles to use the dana 44 u-joints instead of the ball type joint that is standard

Post by **bubs** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:13 am

the 30 spline long field super set is a stronger setup over the eliminator kit.

Post by **RUFF** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:46 am

bubs wrote:the 30 spline long field super set is a stronger setup over the eliminator kit.

Stock CVs have been known to be stronger than the Birf Eliminator kit.

Post by **locktup4x4** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:09 pm

30 spline Longs are much stronger.

Jason

Post by **bad_religion_au** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:59 pm

27 spline longs are much stronger

even heat treated longs are stronger than the birfield eliminator kit.

as guts said, there have been people that have broken the kits in positions that standard CV's would have held up.

they are a waste of time and money.

try

www.longfieldsuperaxles.com

Post by **bj on roids** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:40 pm

RUFF wrote:
bubs wrote:the 30 spline long field super set is a stronger setup over the eliminator kit.
Stock CVs have been known to be stronger than the Birf Eliminator kit.

if you ran the birf eliminator kit and then the bling axles and the CTMs it'd be stronger, but it would cost you heaps

honestly its a 15 year old solution.

Go the longfields all day!

Website · Post by **LuxyBoy** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:59 pm

Ok so looks like www.locktup4x4.com.au sells them but......

So i should get:
30 spline chromoly super set (looks like it come with the inner axles)
4340 chromoly inner hub gears
and while i am pulling it down i might get the Marlin Crawler designed Heavy Duty Front Inner Axle Seals

Is that all i need

Excuse the ignorance but Isn't the spline count set by what diff you have

if my diff is standard say a 27 spline how does a 30 spline fit

Doesn't grinding of the housing for proper fit weaken it

Post by **RUFF** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:20 pm

LuxyBoy wrote:Ok so looks like www.locktup4x4.com.au sells them but......

So i should get:
30 spline chromoly super set (looks like it come with the inner axles)
4340 chromoly inner hub gears
and while i am pulling it down i might get the Marlin Crawler designed Heavy Duty Front Inner Axle Seals
Is that all i need

Excuse the ignorance but Isn't the spline count set by what diff you have
if my diff is standard say a 27 spline how does a 30 spline fit

Doesn't grinding of the housing for proper fit weaken it

That is exactly what you need. The reference to the 30 spline and 27 spline is the count of splines going intro the birfield not the diff. The 30 spline super set is the strongest toyota axle upgrade available. And the amount of grinding that is rarely needed doesnt effect strength. Gettingboth of these is also a good investment-
http://www.locktup4x4.com.au/product/84 ... 698c6.aspx
http://www.locktup4x4.com.au/product/c3 ... 81afb.aspx

Post by **bubs** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:38 pm

this is my opinion to build a lux front axle

ARB (which you already have)
30 Spline Longfields
Longfield Hub Gears
Trail gear magnum studs for all 8 steering arm studs
Marlin Innner Axle Seals
Trail Gears Rock Rings

Post by **joel HJ60** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:41 pm

http://www.locktup4x4.com.au/product/84 ... 698c6.aspx

Are these $12.42 each or for the 4?

Post by **bubs** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:50 pm

each, i will let bulldoggy confirm

but if you have ever broken these out in the bush it is a major pita for the day cause not many people carry these as spares. (i had another forum member call me at 2am on a sunday morning asking if I had a spare knuckle cause they broke the studs on a night run - he had a very long night)

Post by **joel HJ60** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:54 pm

Near $200 for both sides. Might buy a few at a time...

Website · Post by **LuxyBoy** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:27 pm

joel HJ60 wrote:Near $200 for both sides. Might buy a few at a time...

4 per side - 8 x $12.32 = $99.36

Post by **Sic Lux** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:38 pm

LuxyBoy wrote:
joel HJ60 wrote:Near $200 for both sides. Might buy a few at a time...
4 per side - 8 x $12.32 = $99.36

He's talking about running them in the bottom aswell so double those numbers

Post by **bulldogy** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:03 pm

Hey guys Bubs is right the price is each when on the site on the first steering page it does say each but it doesnt on the stud pay that will get fixd sorry for any cnfusion there.

You only need 4 per side the top 4 they take all the load from the steering and are the ones that break.

Dave

Anyone want wireless Bband for free can have mine kus it sucks ass i can hardly get on the net to reply at the moment.

Post by **bubs** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:13 pm

Sic Lux wrote:
LuxyBoy wrote:
joel HJ60 wrote:Near $200 for both sides. Might buy a few at a time...
4 per side - 8 x $12.32 = $99.36
He's talking about running them in the bottom aswell so double those numbers

there is no need to run them on the bottom

Post by **Sic Lux** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:15 pm

Yeah top is where all the steering force is s who knows why he wants to run them on the bottom

Post by **joel HJ60** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:20 am

Too easy, thanks guys!

Website · Post by **LuxyBoy** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:04 am

bubs wrote:this is my opinion to build a lux front axle

ARB (which you already have)
30 Spline Longfields
Longfield Hub Gears
Trail gear magnum studs for all 8 steering arm studs
Marlin Innner Axle Seals
Trail Gears Rock Rings

What about the rear is there just the longfields and an ARB

Post by **1MadEngineer** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:38 am

bj on roids wrote: if you ran the birf eliminator kit and then the bling axles and the CTMs it'd be stronger, but it would cost you heaps

shhhhh! i will let you know how good they are in a few weeks!!

Post by **bubs** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:22 pm

LuxyBoy wrote:
bubs wrote:this is my opinion to build a lux front axle

ARB (which you already have)
30 Spline Longfields
Longfield Hub Gears
Trail gear magnum studs for all 8 steering arm studs
Marlin Innner Axle Seals
Trail Gears Rock Rings
What about the rear is there just the longfields and an ARB

For a rear, ARB or Spool, Then either the Trail Gear / Marlin / All Pro / Poly Chrome moly rear axles

Website · Post by **LuxyBoy** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:56 pm

Thanks for the replys guys

I will get the pressed in rear bearings changed while i'm at it

Post by **Guy** » Thu May 01, 2008 5:03 pm

at what point do you need to start bracing the rear diff houseing again twist (not to protect from impact bending, but twist from torque ?? )

I know I ripped several tin can Zuk housings up in this way .. so by the time you need alloy axles .. is it time to do the housing as well ?

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