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Post by Newtothefourbeworld »

A while ago now i smashed up my rear lights in the rear step and mangled the step too. That step is way too solid to bend back into any normal shape and would be a waste as the lights are no longer there. I was just wondering what you guys have on the rear of your F310's instead of the original chuncky step. Also i have a 50mm BL so any pics of spacers you used to lift it would be great!

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Post by Newtothefourbeworld »

no body.....?

from a look it seems like the rocky rear steps would work but i dont know how they mount.....
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Post by meece4x4 »

i havnt done it myself but one of the local Fez'es around here has a chunk of 100mm X 50mm U channel to replace the original rear bumper .... She (the Owner) has mounted it as close to the body as she can and it dramatically improves departure angle .. solid as f^%8 too , if i can ever find a set of body tail lights for mine im going to do the same conversion.
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Post by Newtothefourbeworld »

i have just done the body tail lights whihc is why im looking at a rear bar but im not sure i understand what you mean by U channel mounted to the body?

any chance of a picture/diagram as i need something soon or i will get booked for no rear bumper
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Post by HotFourOk »

I think he means U or C channel metal, with the middle edge facing outwards from the rear of the car, to make a solid bumper and then it also has the top and bottom covered in.

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Post by murcod »

A guy from SA by the name of "Dangerous Dave" made a custom rear bar a few years back and posted pics- have you tried searching? The pics might still be on here?
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Post by Percy »

There wil most likely be no pics becuase the forum crapped itself and were lost did find this post fro him about his front bar, but couldn't find his post on his rear bar, he said in this post he used C channel to build it.

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Post by Newtothefourbeworld »

ah ok then an the attatched this directly to the body??

i was also wondering if any of you know if the rocky rear step combo has the same mounting points? like the once wihtout the rear lights in them?
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Post by murcod »

From memory Dave's rear bar consisted of very soild steel mounted to the chassis. He had some huge round truck lights that he fitted to it- it was a personal taste thing I guess, but certainly stood out!

He made it all himself. If he hosted the photos off site then they might still exist.
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Post by monmendoza »

I replaced my rear bumper with a C channel. I asked the 4x4 shop that did the conversion for me to carve the middle part of the bumper to accomodate the orginal tow hooks. Here are some pictures:

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Post by Newtothefourbeworld »

did they remove the original round tubing that was supporting the original bumper or is that still there??

how is that mounted to the car is it directly to the body or is there a bracket to something else?

thanks for all the help
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Post by ferozamaniac »

I use to have the same problem with my rear bumber but i have found out that same older Feroza had from stock smaller bumper so i searched and bought them. Now i hardly smash them on my trips but when ever i have a problem with them i always have a hummer with me :D

Both parts of the rear bumper i have smashed them more than 10 times but you can hardly see it because they are easy to bent them back with a hummer.


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Post by monmendoza »

did they remove the original round tubing that was supporting the original bumper or is that still there??
how is that mounted to the car is it directly to the body or is there a bracket to something else?
thanks for all the help

Hello Newtothefourbeworld,
I did not remove the original round tubing that was supporting the original bumper as it might effect chassis integrity of the Feroza. Of course as can be seen, I replaced the original bumper with a C channel. Take note that I did a 2.5" body lift on my Feroza so the body is lifted from the chassis and this will also affect body to bumper distance.
I hope the 3 pictures I took this morning will help you visualize.

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Good luck to your project. :P
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Post by HotFourOk »

That's a damn neat job mate! :armsup:

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ferozamaniac - you mean hammer.... Hummer is a shopping trolley :rofl:
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Post by ferozamaniac »

HotFourOk wrote:That's a damn neat job mate! :armsup:

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ferozamaniac - you mean hammer.... Hummer is a shopping trolley :rofl:
:D my mistake :armsup:
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Post by monmendoza »

That's a damn neat job mate!
Thank you. :)
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Post by murcod »

ferozamaniac wrote:
HotFourOk wrote:That's a damn neat job mate! :armsup:

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ferozamaniac - you mean hammer.... Hummer is a shopping trolley :rofl:
:D my mistake :armsup:
Damn! You've ruined my visions of a H2 Hummer hooked up with chain to the super strong Daihatsu bumper in an effort to straighten it out. :)

Monmendoza that bar is excellent- you don't normally see that quality of work unless it's a pro doing the job for their own rig.
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Post by monmendoza »

Monmendoza that bar is excellent- you don't normally see that quality of work unless it's a pro doing the job for their own rig.
Thank you Murcod! I will relay your complement to the shop who did the job. :lol:
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Post by MightyMouse »

How did you strengthen the ends monmendoza ( its a good job ) ?

I seem to have a habit of touching the corners not the middle so thats my major area of interest.
( usual disclaimers )

It seemed like a much better idea when I started it than it does now.
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Post by monmendoza »

MightyMouse wrote:How did you strengthen the ends monmendoza ( its a good job ) ?
I seem to have a habit of touching the corners not the middle so thats my major area of interest.
Hello MightyMouse, Im not sure If I understood what you meant. They did not actually do anything to the chassis except chop it a little bit to be able to attached the rear bumpers via 4 bolts. (2 per side). They also remove the plastic end of the old bumper and screwed it to the new one. The new bumpers did improve departure angle though because it is higher than the old bumper ( because of the 2.5" body lift) and reduced the Feroza lenght by about 2" compared to the old bumper.
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Post by phraze84 »

hey guys, ive noticed alot of guys have the tail lights on the panels, either sides of the boot door thing??

my rear lights are on my bumper. monmendoza & ferozamaniac, is yours standard or is it different year models to what i have 92 model.

and where can i get these light covers
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Post by ferozamaniac »

I bought them for 60 euro here in Greece and i had to wire them up with the old taillights bumper wires.
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Post by monmendoza »

phraze84 wrote:hey guys, ive noticed alot of guys have the tail lights on the panels, either sides of the boot door thing??
my rear lights are on my bumper. monmendoza & ferozamaniac, is yours standard or is it different year models to what i have 92 model.
and where can i get these light covers
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The rear tailights in the body is standard here in the Philippines. Daihatsu
did not release a Feroza model in the Philippines with tailights in the bumper. An original tailight here in the Philippines cost about US$70.
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Post by MightyMouse »

monmendoza wrote:
MightyMouse wrote:How did you strengthen the ends monmendoza ( its a good job ) ?
I seem to have a habit of touching the corners not the middle so thats my major area of interest.
Hello MightyMouse, Im not sure If I understood what you meant. They did not actually do anything to the chassis except chop it a little bit to be able to attached the rear bumpers via 4 bolts. (2 per side). They also remove the plastic end of the old bumper and screwed it to the new one. The new bumpers did improve departure angle though because it is higher than the old bumper ( because of the 2.5" body lift) and reduced the Feroza lenght by about 2" compared to the old bumper.
The plastic ends are the parts i was refering to - they seem to be prone to damage.
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Post by Newtothefourbeworld »

MM, from my reading he hasnt had a problem with the corners b4 so i assume he hasnt strengthened them but the shop simply bolted them in place.

phraze, in Aus the side panels where the lights are for the other guys are usually filled with blanks. I also have replaced these and here you need to source daihatsu ROCKY rear lights whihc will fit in the same spot. All you need them is to re-wire the old lights to the new location and buy a plug and away you go!
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Post by phraze84 »

sweet thanks that will hopefully be done by this weekend i found a reckers that does jost suzuki & daihatsu near penrith

last time i was there they had 13 feroza's give or take so should be able to source something
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