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300tdi rebuild, sell whole or brake up and sell??

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300tdi rebuild, sell whole or brake up and sell??

Post by uninformed »

hey all,

well my 300 tdi spun a conrod/crank shaft bearing.

it was going to need to be rebuilt so i decided to put a different engine in.

so now i have a complete 300tdi.

do i sell as is, brake up and sell or rebuild and try and get more????

cheers, Serg
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Post by rick130 »

Breaking it up or re-building it you'll have to factor in the time taken. ie. how much are you worth, and will you get the $ back ?
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Post by uninformed »

yeah true, but whats it worth as is???

Serg

ps did u get your saw yet?
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Post by rick130 »

I have no idea what one would be worth in that condition ?
Your head is fairly young, isn't it ? Could be worth your while just parting it out .

Naa, no saw yet. No ba$tard is paying their bills ATM.....

Maybe I need to buy a new saw and visit customers with it to hurry them along... :twisted:
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Post by Disco1Modified »

Hey uninformed,
did you buy one of those powerstroke 2.8 tdi's from melbourne?
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Post by uninformed »

hey Rick, that 357xp that you told me was a great price.

yes i got a 2.8 tgv
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Post by Disco1Modified »

I'm sure there are a lot of people interested in this cpnversion.
Are you putting the engine in yourself?
Keep us informed about how it all goes.
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Post by ISUZUROVER »

uninformed wrote:hey Rick, that 357xp that you told me was a great price.
You have a husky 357XP? I got one a while back - beautiful saw!!!
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Post by uninformed »

ISUZUROVER wrote:
uninformed wrote:hey Rick, that 357xp that you told me was a great price.
You have a husky 357XP? I got one a while back - beautiful saw!!!
no i dont have a 357 xp......(i would have one though, but got others i want before it, solo 681 is a screamer)

but i do have 266, 272's, 288's, 2100's and a 346xpne ;)

fun fun fun
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Post by rick130 »

More saw talk :D

I wish my customers would pay their friggin accounts, a new Dolmar PS6400 (in Makita livery) was passed in on fleabay for $600 a couple of days ago and it was a dealer lower down the valley here......... :x

I'm currently using a mates old Stihl 032AV which is in beautiful condition for the age and is surprisingly grunty for a 52cc saw.
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Post by ISUZUROVER »

rick130 wrote:More saw talk :D

I wish my customers would pay their friggin accounts, a new Dolmar PS6400 (in Makita livery) was passed in on fleabay for $600 a couple of days ago and it was a dealer lower down the valley here......... :x

I'm currently using a mates old Stihl 032AV which is in beautiful condition for the age and is surprisingly grunty for a 52cc saw.
I would have thought everyone would want to settle their accounts before the end of the financial year???
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Post by rick130 »

So did I, but there aren't any cheques magically appearing in the mail yet.....

I suppose the 30th of June isn't till Monday. :?
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Post by ISUZUROVER »

Bugger - maybe time for a friendly reminder???

I met an amateur woorworker and sawmiller (has a home sawmill!) last night. He has a stihl 076 - didn't even know the model existed. 111cc !!! 3'-4' bar!!!!!!!!!


Serg - how many saws do you own!!!
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ISUZUROVER wrote:Bugger - maybe time for a friendly reminder???

I met an amateur woorworker and sawmiller (has a home sawmill!) last night. He has a stihl 076 - didn't even know the model existed. 111cc !!! 3'-4' bar!!!!!!!!!


Serg - how many saws do you own!!!
stihl also did an 088 and a 090, the 090 is 137cc.

and as for how many saws i own, not enough hahaha

im waiting on a very special one at the moment....

the 2.8 seems to be going alright so far....

what is a normal egt reading on a 300tdi?
my sender is in the exhaust just behind the turbo(about 75mm back)

what temp should the engine run at?

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Post by ISUZUROVER »

uninformed wrote:
ISUZUROVER wrote:Bugger - maybe time for a friendly reminder???

I met an amateur woorworker and sawmiller (has a home sawmill!) last night. He has a stihl 076 - didn't even know the model existed. 111cc !!! 3'-4' bar!!!!!!!!!


Serg - how many saws do you own!!!
stihl also did an 088 and a 090, the 090 is 137cc.

and as for how many saws i own, not enough hahaha

im waiting on a very special one at the moment....

the 2.8 seems to be going alright so far....

what is a normal egt reading on a 300tdi?
my sender is in the exhaust just behind the turbo(about 75mm back)

what temp should the engine run at?

cheers, Serg
I knew about the 066 and 088, my uncle is a farmer and has owned both (as well as smaller saws). Just have never heard of the 076 (or the 090!!!).

EGT pre turbo (on any vehicle) should be around 750 max (if you want it to last). Post turbo, about 200-250 less, but it is difficult to calculate exactly.
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Post by uninformed »

EGT pre turbo (on any vehicle) should be around 750 max (if you want it to last). Post turbo, about 200-250 less, but it is difficult to calculate exactly.[/quote]

ok so where should i put the sensor to get an acurate reading?

any clues on the water temp?

cheers, Serg

ps stihl also made an 090G which was a gear drive model, it had a reduction drive before the sprocket... slow but some toque hey :)
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Post by rick130 »

Stock fuel pump on a 300Tdi runs at 620-625* max. pre turbo.
I limit mine to 720*, but it's seen 740 a couple of times. Last few oil tests are showing a few 'issues' so I'm trying to determine if it's excessive EGT's or fuel or something else ATM.

Water t'stat starts to open at 87*, and mine usually runs at 92* except when climbing, (sits around 95-96* then) and the hottest it's risen to is 104*.

There's a 100+cc Oleo-Mac on ebay ATM too.

I'll have to have a look at the neighbours Stihl tomorrow, it's got around a 3' bar ATM.
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Post by uninformed »

rick, where is a good spot to put the get sensor?

the stihl could be a number of saws but if its moden it will be 066/660 or old could be 056av 076av 084 088 090.... oleo mac are ment to be pretty good saws too.

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Post by rick130 »

the 300 was a piece of p!$$ as you drill and tap the EGR blanking plate.

If you can drill and tap the new manifold somewhere where it gets the flow from all four cylinders would be ideal, otherwise if mounting downstream, within 150mm of the turbo on the dump pipe, but as Ben said the numbers you get from a downstream location are a bit rubbery.

Ian Petersen (Thermoguard) has measured almost 200*C difference between upstream and downstream on his 300Tdi. The downstream measuring was done on the outlet elbow, too.

<edit> I pinched this pic from Ian's website. It shows the variation between upstream and downstream measuring vs throttle position.

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