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Suspension Bushes
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Suspension Bushes
Just in the market for some new bushes for my toyota 80 series with 5" lift and just wondering whether rubber bushes or polyurthene bushes are better??? I have heard reports either way from suppliers......
And you're likely to get reports either way on here too.
how have you corrected caster though? I don't think you can get rubber bushes with caster correction in them.
Steve.
how have you corrected caster though? I don't think you can get rubber bushes with caster correction in them.
Steve.
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i just ordered a set today from redcliffe springs, they said the rubber ones are dearer and that the polyurethane ones last longer, no cracking,splits and hold there shape better. reckons they dont sell many rubber ones now, there must be an advantage to the rubber ones if they are dearer (youd think)
rubber is the only way to go, poly will crack and wear out very quickly.
Super pro panhard bush split and shot out of chassis end whilst driving a waterfall, 2 weeks old. Super pro rear lowwer arms 6 weeks old split at chassis end and steel sleeves were rattling around in trail arm. Radius arms, Super pro bushes 6 months old has 2mm clearance around sleeves, found this while trying to find a torque steer problem.
This is GQ coil cab, not much different to 80 series, expect the same with poly.
There is nowhere for the poly to compress to, so it splits.
You can get rubber caster correction bushes, ask suspension stuff.
Manufacturers would not spend extra on rubber if it was not better. My original bushes where 9 years old and had a hard life. I have had GQ's older that still had good bushes in them.
Super pro panhard bush split and shot out of chassis end whilst driving a waterfall, 2 weeks old. Super pro rear lowwer arms 6 weeks old split at chassis end and steel sleeves were rattling around in trail arm. Radius arms, Super pro bushes 6 months old has 2mm clearance around sleeves, found this while trying to find a torque steer problem.
This is GQ coil cab, not much different to 80 series, expect the same with poly.
There is nowhere for the poly to compress to, so it splits.
You can get rubber caster correction bushes, ask suspension stuff.
Manufacturers would not spend extra on rubber if it was not better. My original bushes where 9 years old and had a hard life. I have had GQ's older that still had good bushes in them.
Hmmm, thats really interesting re the superpro. Id better pull mine out to check them. Actually, for shocks the ones that I have found work really well are the Rancho ones. Probably the one thing Rancho got right. Rubber just doesnt last in my shocks but are fine in the radius arms.
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Check out my poly,the one on the right is cracked and out of shape as compared to how it started,the one on the leftwhythef@#!not wrote: polyurethane ones last longer, no cracking,splits and hold there shape better.
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Castor bushes should be rubber. Poly bushes do fine in shocks. Interesting read.
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Yer mate i did see your post i was just stirring with regards to this post if you havent seen it .udm wrote:you missed my post when i mentioned arb bushes, their bushes are polyurethane aswell, 100% rubbish.bulldogy wrote:Just buy from arb im sure you will get top quality
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anyone notice how factory bushes and aftermarket bushes are manufactured differntly? usually the factory ones, particularly in an 80 are whats called 'bonded'. this is rubber bonded between steel sleves. and only the centre sleve contacts the chassis, so the rest can flex. poly and other stuff usually sits up against the chassis in all areas-no flex. not everyone has this bonding technology and its freakin expensive. but you will notice arb making alot of rubber bushes now, particularly in shocks. also if my engineer sees poly bushes...he won't pass it.
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They still last but not as long as the GQ bushes and they cost more, of course.its aford not a nissan wrote:if you never go off road use poly
but if you do use your 4by go with rubber , im not sure but i think i read somewhere that patrol bushes will fit to a cruiser and vice versa , if so go with the gu slotted bushes as they flex much better and still last
If you have a 2 or 3" lift then after market rubber castor correction bushes are recommended compared to stock bushes because they do correct your castor. I have not sold one set of poly castor correction bushes since I started selling the rubber ones.
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As Castor bushes. They are like Holey bushes. They flex pretty good but won't last long.DIRTY ROCK STAR wrote:i got GQ bushes. rubber ones as i had heard they flexed better. and i went to CalOffroad. good price, good service and i had heard his product was top shiat.
seems to flex really well thus far.
I use to use them in control arms upper and lower and had issues so it is back to genuine rubber.
I use after market rubber castor correction bushes but they aren't CalOffroad.
I couldn't tell you about their other bushes.
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Re: Suspension Bushes
Put genuine Nissan rubber bushes in all round. Longest lasting and best flex because they use top quality rubber.CruiserCruising wrote:Just in the market for some new bushes for my toyota 80 series with 5" lift and just wondering whether rubber bushes or polyurthene bushes are better??? I have heard reports either way from suppliers......
Use GU Patrol slotted bushes in the front of the radius arms.
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Re: Suspension Bushes
what he said!!!sudso wrote:Put genuine Nissan rubber bushes in all round. Longest lasting and best flex because they use top quality rubber.
Use GU Patrol slotted bushes in the front of the radius arms.
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I have Poly's on my 80. I wont go them again. I only went them cause when I got the cruiser it had poly's in it and when they crapped out I didn't have and couldn't afford a press for the rubber bushes. They are only a few monhs old and already splitting. Next set will be rubber and I'll use the excuse to buy a press.
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If you need castor correction then rubber ones are the go. They are not genuine but they are lasting. If you don't need castor correction then go Genuine as everybody has said.Chucky wrote:I have Poly's on my 80. I wont go them again. I only went them cause when I got the cruiser it had poly's in it and when they crapped out I didn't have and couldn't afford a press for the rubber bushes. They are only a few monhs old and already splitting. Next set will be rubber and I'll use the excuse to buy a press.
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I have pollys all round front and rear in my 105 series and i love them have not noticed the felx being affected and i checked them all the other day and they were fine had them for about a year.
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Thats because yours dosent flex to start withHarrow wrote:I have pollys all round front and rear in my 105 series and i love them have not noticed the felx being affected and i checked them all the other day and they were fine had them for about a year.
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S O F T RoaderHarrow wrote:I have pollys all round front and rear in my 105 series and i love them have not noticed the felx being affected and i checked them all the other day and they were fine had them for about a year.
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