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XF Weber on a Zuk? and other options?

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XF Weber on a Zuk? and other options?

Post by BOGFROG »

Hey guys I am lookin for a bit more power out of my Zuk and as my orig
1.3L carby is in desperate need of a rebuild and the cost of that is way too
expensive compared to replacing it with a Weber kit (Only $150 more
to put a weber on it) plus the power gain not to mention, But thats still a
massive out lay for my budget build so I have been lookin into fitting a
XF Falcon 34ADM Weber carby to it like this one:
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I found a mint one @ the Wreckers for $35 so clean it wont even need a
kit put thru it! Thats much cheaper for a start. As for fitting her up!
I know I need to make up an adaptor plate similar to this:
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I was also going to make up an Air Box for it like these:
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Which should make hooking my Snorkel up easy as!

I was just wondering if anyone on here had tried fitting one of these to
their rigs and if so what they thought of them as well as if there was any
problems they had? Also if anyone has any advise or thing's I should
look out for in trying 2 fit this to my G13ba? All responses welcomed!
Thanks in advance Robb. ;)
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Post by St Jimmy »

They are to big in the jetting dept
my son had one on his and was allways
fueling up but it went like a :cool:
but he got 20ltr/100klms out of it
you need one of a fiat or small
eruo car
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Post by want33s »

The XE-XF Webers are bloody good carbys but I reckon a bit big for a Zook even if you jet it down.
I think the problem might be the lack of airflow(volume) through the carb won't trigger the right vacuum responses.
It is designed for an engine more than 3 times bigger than a Zooks' 1.3.
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Post by get it up there »

I'm running a falcon weber on mine too.. bugga all power increase, but alot more responsive. Plus, i have the same old problem of it fueling up.. mainly up hill (which we all know about!!) I havent looked into changing jet sizes or anything what so ever yet.. but i will definatly be doing it soon. The only problem is the thread which has got all the info on it is 15 bloody pages long!!!!!! I know that a local carby shop refused to touch it.. saying that i will NEVER see the day that the carby will run ok with that motor. I can see where his coming from, but the fella i got it off ensured me it run swet on his zook!!
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Post by want33s »

Smaller jets are available but the air metering is the problem.
Put a weber off a 250 X flow on a 200 and it will fuel up because of the smaller volume of air pulled through it..
A 1.3 is only 78 cubic inches so a LOT smaller than the intended 250 cu in.

Get a Corolla carb from wreckers off a 3-4-5K... It will just about bolt on, use same fuel as a stock zook carb and won't flood on hills like a weber.

Better yet get a stock zook carb and kit it. ;)
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I Wonder if the Sierra Jets for the 32/36 Weber are interchangable with the 34ADM? Does anyone Know? and if not what size jets would suit?
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Post by get it up there »

want33s wrote:
Get a Corolla carb from wreckers off a 3-4-5K... It will just about bolt on, use same fuel as a stock zook carb and won't flood on hills like a weber.

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Will this increase the power much do you know??
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Post by zookimal »

Was a bit better than the zook carby powerwise, but not as good offroad (but may have been the way mine was setup).

Best mod I did was buy a standard carb to replace it with. Runs all but upside down and for me that 's better than the a handful of extra horsepower it might have given.
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Post by want33s »

get it up there wrote:Will this increase the power much do you know??
I doubt it but they are cheaper than Zook carbs cause theres so many of them around.

zookimal wrote:Was a bit better than the zook carby powerwise, but not as good offroad (but may have been the way mine was setup).

Best mod I did was buy a standard carb to replace it with. Runs all but upside down and for me that 's better than the a handful of extra horsepower it might have given.
I wouldn't swap my standard carb either. It runs fine. Car falls over before engine stalls. :armsup:
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XF Weber on a Zuk?

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All this info is great keep em coming and if you have pics of your set up
post em up for all to see! I would like to see what set up's are being used a how well they work ,at $35 I haven't lost out much so willing to look at other options that work better for an off road application mainly.
Will be doing alot of hills, extreme angles and laying over a fair bit so want
my set up to work well! Thanks Robb! ;)
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Post by St Jimmy »

Get on to nic he is the one you want to
talk to as he has a sarger fid carb on
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Post by gaser »

I have a weber on my zook its the best thing i have done.
but it has had a bit off work done to it so it can run with out flooding
up hill down hill and on side angles it worked that good that i all most put
on its side.the work was done by a mate of mine because thats what he dose a carby workshop. it has 2 pumps and a bit of play about.
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Post by NIK »

Trying to skim read this and supervise my daughters 14th but from what I know I think?? the 34 is a solex a copyof a weber but then again Ive had a few lemonades :D
But I do know the 34 isnt as good as the 32/36. Way more info on the 32/36 swap and with a little work can run great on and off road and be economical!!
Atm Im running a 38dgas way more power than the 32/36!
The air box you pictured would need the inlet front or back not from the side as one side will get more air than the other.
Read through the weber thread on here and on www.zuwharrie.com to get a better idea.
Maybe pm built4thrashing he is one of the few Iknow that ran that model carb.
Hope that makes some drunken sense.
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If anyone has an orig Aisan carby off a 85-89 1.3L Sierra and wants to sell it you can find me here in the wanted section:
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BOGFROG wrote:If anyone has an orig Aisan carby off a 85-89 1.3L Sierra and wants to sell it you can find me here in the wanted section:
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/sutra1434950.php#1434950
seems a bit weird to Quote myself but in this case I'm getting desperate
so if anyone has one of the above you know what to do thanks BOGFROG Robb!
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Post by brad-chevlux »

on a 1300 engine you'd be better off with a 180 holley instead of the 32/36 weber
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brad-chevlux wrote:on a 1300 engine you'd be better off with a 180 holley instead of the 32/36 weber
Thats why I decided to stick with the Original Aisan Carby don't want it to fuel up on hills etc.. needs to run well on all extreme angles!
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Post by want33s »

If you just want it going A.S.A.P and can't find a Sierra carb fit a Corolla one.. It fits easily enough, is almost identical and cheap.. You can always fit a Zook carb later when you find one.

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Re: Sierra carby

Post by brad-chevlux »

BOGFROG wrote:
brad-chevlux wrote:on a 1300 engine you'd be better off with a 180 holley instead of the 32/36 weber
Thats why I decided to stick with the Original Aisan Carby don't want it to fuel up on hills etc.. needs to run well on all extreme angles!
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the webers and 180 holleys can be made to work at any angles, it's just not cheap
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Post by cjdeane10 »

or install a nikki carb - i am getting danks one for my zook - but gimmee a few weekends to fit it, and if all works ok, then i should have a stocko AISAN carb for sale... :lol:
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cjdeane10 wrote:or install a nikki carb - i am getting danks one for my zook - but gimmee a few weekends to fit it, and if all works ok, then i should have a stocko AISAN carb for sale... :lol:
Cool cjdeane10 let me know? I may have it sorted by then but may still want a spare anyway (Too many spares is never enough!) thanks Robb.
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Post by crazynic »

Why not try a vitara 1.6 carb?

I installed a g16b in my sierra and the carb works well on all sorts of angles im sure it would work well on a 1.3 and provide a small boost in power..
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Post by WasabiPimpNinja »

I bodged up a 34ADM and an airbox similar but different to the one you pictured. Only difference was I just ran a small SC blowthrough on it at about 5psi. I just kept the jets/tune the same as the stock XE ones. Went hard as till I cracked piston #3. People tell me that's normal on a Coilly, regardless of boost. Either way I ended up with a 1.6 EFI so all is good :)

Untill I get drunk and try and SC this one...
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