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Whats wrong with Tough Dogs?

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Post by Suspension Stuff »

bogged wrote:
4WD Stuff wrote:
steve patrol wrote:Also what sort of warranty will the boss have :lol: ?

Ie on a properly set up patrol truck with long arm lowers and adjustable uppers, lowered bump stops etc... and checked on a flex ramp to make sure nothing is hitting at full flex, including mounts and pinion angles, etc...
Boss will have a warranty but I don't know how long it will be. (The Boss of Boss is out of the country at the moment)
I will put a Suspension Stuff warranty on them for 2 years covering everything. I will be selling bump stop spacers with them for the Patrol.
I will give a money back satisfaction guarantee on the first 10 sets that I sell.
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Id give them a run with these conditions, I think it would be worth the trial...
I will give you a pm when they are available. Do you know what lengths you would want? or what lift you have. I hear you have gone soft with the GU :D
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Post by steve patrol »

4wd stuff,

Put the longest boss shocks on the list I emailed you.

Worth a try...
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Post by bogged »

4WD Stuff wrote:Do you know what lengths you would want? or what lift you have. I hear you have gone soft with the GU :D
no idea on length yet, not really sure what the springs I have are.
yes my sexuality changed, and I went soft.. :oops:
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Post by crankycruiser »

Ive got a pile of tough dog shocks in my scrap pile u cant jump over! wanna buy them?.. they are a good shock....... i promise :twisted:

heres a link to a thread i started bout them a long time ago....

http://www.4wdmonthly.com.au/forum/show ... =tough+dog
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Post by CWBYUP »

Let me know when these become avaliable I would be interested in testing a set.

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Post by badger »

if you can sell them to me at the same price as i buy tough dogs and i havent bought shocks yet ill give them a go. give you an oppinion from someone who loves tough dogs
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Post by Suspension Stuff »

I will let you know via pm CWBYUP

badger the full retail is $840 and they will cost you and the rest of you guys less because I would like comparisons to Tough Dogs and the other shock you use.

Bogged just un bolt your passenger side shock, put your high lift jack in the tow bar tongue and jack until coil becomes loose and then measure the shock length.

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Post by macca81 »

will you have any that are short enuf for an ifs vehicle??
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Post by Suspension Stuff »

macca81 wrote:will you have any that are short enuf for an ifs vehicle??
Yep, lengths start from 360mm extended.

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Post by bogged »

4WD Stuff wrote:I will let you know via pm CWBYUP

badger the full retail is $840 and they will cost you and the rest of you guys less because I would like comparisons to Tough Dogs and the other shock you use.

Bogged just un bolt your passenger side coil, put your high lift jack in the tow bar tongue and jack until coil becomes loose and then measure the shock length.

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Post by CWBYUP »

4WD Stuff wrote:I will let you know via pm CWBYUP
badger the full retail is $840 and they will cost you and the rest of you guys less because I would like comparisons to Tough Dogs and the other shock you use.
Shane

Thanks a pretty good price as the quote I got the other day was $260 RRP Per Tough Dog.

What have others been quoted ?

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Post by Suspension Stuff »

CWBYUP wrote:
4WD Stuff wrote:I will let you know via pm CWBYUP
badger the full retail is $840 and they will cost you and the rest of you guys less because I would like comparisons to Tough Dogs and the other shock you use.
Shane

Thanks a pretty good price as the quote I got the other day was $260 RRP Per Tough Dog.

What have others been quoted ?

Nick
I sell the Tough Dogs for $990 for a set of 4 including freight and as far as I know, unless you are getting trade price I am the cheapest or equal cheapest. It will be interesting to see what others are getting them for.

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Post by taps »

4wd stuff, i can get them cheaper than that !!!!

But that is a good price your doing for the average punter inc freight.

Do you sell lots ????
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Post by Suspension Stuff »

taps wrote:4wd stuff, i can get them cheaper than that !!!!

But that is a good price your doing for the average punter inc freight.

Do you sell lots ????
Nah I don't sell lots, I sell about 20 times more Procomps for off road vehicles.
For on road up to 3" lift stuff I sell about 100 times more Lovells shocks. I reckon Lovells shocks are a sleeping giant for shocks. I suppose it doesn't help that they do no advertising.

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Post by badger »

most shops that sell tough dog have about $100 per shock mark up on them so if you know anyone at all of course you can beat 900
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Post by Suspension Stuff »

badger wrote:most shops that sell tough dog have about $100 per shock mark up on them so if you know anyone at all of course you can beat 900
That's the shops that deal direct with them which I don't so no $100 mark up. They would ditch me if I did deal direct because of my honest opinions. I have a couple of different suppliers in case they are watching. :D
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Post by cooki_monsta »

i might like the thought of testing these shocks, as i currently run toughdogs from 06, big bore adjustables, they are good, very good improvment over stock, but not that fantastic i would say. 2 out of the 4 are leaking from the seals and they take a while to prime up on a cold morning. down travel is a bit of an issue with them aswell but still a nice shock. If my funds permit i would be very keen to try your new shocks, also have a friend keen to try your shocks on an 80 series cruiser who is currently running ridepro shocks
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Post by Suspension Stuff »

I will pm you when they are ready.

I am starting to get a bit of a cross section to compare them to so I should get some ride quality feedback reasonably quickly.

Cheers
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Post by CWBYUP »

4WD Stuff wrote:... so I should get some ride quality feedback reasonably quickly.
I will be able to give you a good idea of how that last from being hammered.

I seem to have the ability to break things in ways that no one else can :twisted: .

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Post by PGS 4WD »

Since I started at PGS 18 months ago I haven't seen any come back, and we have replaced most other brands with them.
I used to use Ride Pro in my Shortie and found they were good when new but became bouncy after an event, I fitted twin Ridepro on the front and was very happy.
Have friends with the EFS extreme, they seem OK in slower vehicles but have too much body roll for me personally, they have little compression and lots of rebound, probably better in the front than the rear, they squat too much up hills in the rear.
I'm using Tough Dog in the rear of my current Comp truck and after a lot of high speed testing found it took over and hour of high speed driving, jumping etc to get any sign of fade when used with my air bag rear end. The recovery time was quick and the shocks were too hot to touch. They seem to keep up well with the coilover front end. The Ralphs were too heavy in their dampning for the light rear end of the Comp Truck but work exceptionally well in a GU with fridge and drawers for example.
It is interesting to note they are made in Canada like the RAW shocks, and look extremely similar right down to the stamping and part no's, only he mounts are fitted locally, the valving rates are probably different.
Shockers need to match spring rates, vehicle speed and mass, thats why they may work for some and not others.


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Post by dumbdunce »

BBM Rick wrote:I've run them on all my trucks and never, ever had an issue. Im a fan.
I have found over the years that 95% of the time when there is a problem, you usually only hear the version of events that the complainer wants you to hear. Usually there is a perfectly good reason for failures, and it is mostly mis-use or poor fitment.
Of any manufacturer (of ANY product) we have had to deal with in regards to warranty, Tough Dog are by far the fairest, quickest and most customer focused mob we have had to deal with, often replacing well out-of-warranty items when they were under no obligation to do so.
IMHO, you can buy TD with confidence.
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Like ANY mechanical component, they are breakable, but they are some of the toughest, and I believe most comfortable, shocks on the market.
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Post by Suspension Stuff »

:)

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Post by j-top paj »

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Nelso and Tough dogs :rofl:
As soon as Iseen the title i thought Nelso will have an opinion on this ;)

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