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Hilux diffs under Sierra

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Hilux diffs under Sierra

Post by SHANE055 »

A mate of mine wants to put Hilux diffs under his Sierra but isn't very mechanically minded and I know sweet F A about Zuks so I'mlooking for info on this conversion from anyone whos done it especially on connecting the steering brakes and tailshafts any massive dramas people have had trying to make it all fit.
I've done a search and couldn't find allthe info I wanted thanks in advance and please write in terms a lux driver will understand as previously stated I know nothing bout Zuks
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just search for _noddy on here or aus zook. that kid has all the ideas :finger:
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Post by Gwagensteve »

If you're not very mechanically minded I don't recommend this swap.

It involves quite a lot of steering work and structural modifications as you pointed out.

On top of working out the connections, you'll also have to troubleshoot a SPOA conversion at the same time, and deal with rear driveshaft angle.

Most hilux diffed SPOA suzuki's run extended wheelbase to ease driveshaft problems and to make the whole car work at it's new height and tyre size.

Some will say this is just me puchig my anti SPOA/anti hilux diff agenda, but it's not. Getting the diffs under the car is the easy bit. Getting it all hooked up safely is expensive and time consuming.

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Post by 11_evl »

find a bundy rear diff b4 you start. mine is stretched a bit and vibrates like a sex store
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Post by SHANE055 »

Thanks guys
why a bundy rear diff
I said he's not very mechanically minded I'm just about finnished doing a coil solid axle swap into my 03 lux so I have some experience in this sort of thing just not with zooks
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Post by zookimal »

The Bundera rear centre is offset to the right to match the transfer output, the same as the suzuki diff. The hilux rear is centred, thus can cause vibration issues on SWB swaps.
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Post by Gwagensteve »

Bundy rear diffs already have the centre offset to the left so the rear driveshaft angle is happier. Otherwise they're pretty much the same as hilux.

I assume you've used a hilux front diff to SAS your car? - This isn't really that hard as there's not really heaps of differences between a live axle hilux and an IFS hilux (at 2003) stuff like brakes and driveshafts are pretty strightforward.

It's a fair bit more complex for the lux diffs into sierra.

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Post by lump_a_charcoal »

GO to Rocky road outfitters website, they make kits for conversions, including steering setups etc.
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Post by grimbo »

lump_a_charcoal wrote:GO to Rocky road outfitters website, they make kits for conversions, including steering setups etc.
left hand drive kits and as we are right hand drive…
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Post by lump_a_charcoal »

If you specify RH drive they make them.
I just bought stuff for RH from them...
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Post by alien »

is it engineerable Linc? might want to consult an engineer about the steering especially... mine for example had to be machined from 1 piece of steel and the type of steel was also specified by the engineer (cant just use mild steel). It basically has to exceed original design specs to pass.
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Post by lump_a_charcoal »

Yeah Aron, my local 4x4 mechos have used the rocky road stuff before and had it engineered no worries.
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Post by nicbeer »

if u are after a set of lux diffs shane055,

_noddy noob has a set for sale on nbs forum
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Post by SHANE055 »

Gwagensteve wrote:Bundy rear diffs already have the centre offset to the left so the rear driveshaft angle is happier. Otherwise they're pretty much the same as hilux.

I assume you've used a hilux front diff to SAS your car? - This isn't really that hard as there's not really heaps of differences between a live axle hilux and an IFS hilux (at 2003) stuff like brakes and driveshafts are pretty strightforward.

It's a fair bit more complex for the lux diffs into sierra.

Steve.
No I used a 79 series cruiser diff
thanks again guys some great info
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