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YJ jeep in Zook

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YJ jeep in Zook

Post by ajsr »

Read the thread in the bible
Who is using tj jeep leafs in thier zook partiularly in spoa
whats it like and is it worth the hassle?
pretty popular in the US and looks like flex is awesome or is it usual Yankee wank?
can it be done in a narrow track as all US sierra's(samurai's) are wt
thanks andrew
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Post by grimbo »

TJ Jeeps are coil sprung so not possible you may be thinking of the YJ kit. There are a couple of people on here using the kit but with feroza springs I believe. The hardest part is getting the YJ springs.
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Post by ajsr »

opps my bad grimbo ment YJ springs(leaf springs)
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Post by Wesley »

YJ's are easy to get arb sells them. (ive got the part number around somewhere if you need it).
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Post by alien »

Im running hilux front leaves all round in mine - see link to "The UFO" below...
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Post by ajsr »

how do you find the hilux springs alien?
how close is the length to jeep?
are they alright in spoa?
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Post by alien »

the springs are great - very flexy, ran almost flat with one leaf removed - not sure how close to jeep length but theyre 120mm longer than a zuk rear. and they can only be run in SPOA cos they are so flat...

Mine's engineered with them too - passed the lane change test etc.
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Post by ajsr »

how much did you have to extend the chassis
whats required to fit these alien?
are u using lux in both ends?
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Post by alien »

hilux fronts in front and rear with the load leaf removed... so all 4 wheels flex about the same.

Chassis extension is about 120mm. New perches (hilux ones) are welded to the chassis, standard SPOA treatment on the diffs (old perches gone and new ones on top). After that its shock mounts, bump stops, shocks, brake lines, steering arms (and tierod/draglink), modify exhaust to clear springs and tyres on compression, beef up tcase and add tcase gears etc etc...

The lift itself also required the addition of a x-member on the chassis for the rear shocks to mount to, and the chassis extension required a lot of fish plating and bracing, its now the strongest part on my chassis, put it that way =)

If you're thinking of doing it, contact an auto-engineer (im sure your local licensing place has a list of engineers, mine did)... talk to the engineer about whats possible and what he'd like done to make it pass his inspections and be a roadworthy (ie safe) rig...
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Post by lay80n »

alien wrote:the springs are great - very flexy, ran almost flat with one leaf removed - not sure how close to jeep length but theyre 120mm longer than a zuk rear. and they can only be run in SPOA cos they are so flat...

Mine's engineered with them too - passed the lane change test etc.

My brothers ute runs lux fronts in the rear SPUA, almost flat. Flexes real well.


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Post by alien »

really? wow.. if i ran mine SPUA i'd need to cut the guards right out and probably a 2" BL as well.
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Post by lay80n »

alien wrote:really? wow.. if i ran mine SPUA i'd need to cut the guards right out and probably a 2" BL as well.
Its a ute - no panels there ;) On 33 boggers.

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Post by Gwagensteve »

Low is the new lift and bumpstops are the new flex.... You're so yesterday Alien :D :D

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Post by ajsr »

lay80n wrote:
alien wrote:really? wow.. if i ran mine SPUA i'd need to cut the guards right out and probably a 2" BL as well.
Its a ute - no panels there ;) On 33 boggers.

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that ute is just evil lay80 :twisted:
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Post by GRPABT1 »

lay80n wrote:
alien wrote:really? wow.. if i ran mine SPUA i'd need to cut the guards right out and probably a 2" BL as well.
Its a ute - no panels there ;) On 33 boggers.

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Is there much drama with the rear shackles catching when dropping off ledges?

And on the subject of jeep leaves, I've always wanted to combine these two kits:

http://www.rocky-road.com/yjkit.html

http://www.bc4x4.com/inthenews/default.cfm?ID=138
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Post by lay80n »

GRPABT1 wrote:
lay80n wrote:
alien wrote:really? wow.. if i ran mine SPUA i'd need to cut the guards right out and probably a 2" BL as well.
Its a ute - no panels there ;) On 33 boggers.

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Layto....
Is there much drama with the rear shackles catching when dropping off ledges?

And on the subject of jeep leaves, I've always wanted to combine these two kits:

http://www.rocky-road.com/yjkit.html

http://www.bc4x4.com/inthenews/default.cfm?ID=138
Yeah, they do catch. I am going to re-drill the spring pads to shuffle the axle back another inch when my brother and i get some time. It wont be a big improvement, but every little bit helps. My black WT is SPOA with 40mm longer shackes in the rear. Much better for ledges.

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Post by GRPABT1 »

lay80n wrote:
GRPABT1 wrote:
lay80n wrote:
alien wrote:really? wow.. if i ran mine SPUA i'd need to cut the guards right out and probably a 2" BL as well.
Its a ute - no panels there ;) On 33 boggers.

Image

Layto....
Is there much drama with the rear shackles catching when dropping off ledges?

And on the subject of jeep leaves, I've always wanted to combine these two kits:

http://www.rocky-road.com/yjkit.html

http://www.bc4x4.com/inthenews/default.cfm?ID=138
Yeah, they do catch. I am going to re-drill the spring pads to shuffle the axle back another inch when my brother and i get some time. It wont be a big improvement, but every little bit helps. My black WT is SPOA with 40mm longer shackes in the rear. Much better for ledges.

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I'm just thinking flex can give way to other problems. In this case it's the rear getting hung up. Hence why I went with 3/4 elliptic in the rear to match my front flex without compensating load carrying ability. My departure angle is better than your brother's already and I have plan to move the axle back 2 inches.
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Post by lay80n »

I have been looking at ways to make the angle better, it isnt that bad now, the photo actually looks worse than it is. The axle is already back 5 inches front standard due to the lux springs, when it gets moved back a bit more by re-drilling the perches i dont think it will be that bad. I tyink we have Hi-Jacked the thread though :oops:

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Post by ajsr »

just been looking at the rocky reoad site for jeep springs
have a look at the rear shot
those shackles dont hang out much
how did they get round it
jeep springs are ive heard 175 mm longer in the rear
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Post by 86slowsierra »

hey ajsr

Yes as far as i know using TJ /high lux in a narrow track will be fine. there wont be much difference. Actually now i think about it it may be easier because making the new mounts wont be as hard to make; if your trying to keep your diffs in the same position.

alien " and they can only be run in SPOA cos they are so flat..."

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Post by lay80n »

ajsr wrote:just been looking at the rocky reoad site for jeep springs
have a look at the rear shot
those shackles dont hang out much
how did they get round it
jeep springs are ive heard 175 mm longer in the rear
They move the front spring mount forward too.

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