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Post by **bundyboy** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 4:39 pm

yeh, flying along!!! looks impressive!

Post by **hypo** » Fri Dec 26, 2003 9:49 pm

loox farken awsome Sam..
great work guys......

and POS,, ya gotta remember tony is shorter thats y his side is lower :finger:

Post by **Shorty40** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 3:54 pm

That looks nice Sam :cool:

I am amazed how fast you guys have nailed it together - takes me a weekend to change the diff oil

It will be good to see this thing compete - anything that furthers the sport is a good thing

Dan

I'd say keep the shiny side up - but I'm not sure which one that is

Post by **Strange Rover** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 7:37 am

Back from holidays now so hopefully should get it running soon. About the only thing Ive done now since the last lot of pics is tacked the steering box bracks in. Its not an easy thing to do mounting the steering box to a piece of tube and trying to make it strong but it should come up good. Full hydro would be much simple.

Thinking of moving the front axle forwards 4in cause it looks a bit funny from the side. The scale of the whole thing it setup up to have the front axle forwards the 4in and I moved it back so I could run the rover radius arms. Not sure how Im going to accomplish this - might just cut and extend the radius arms or maybe I can move the mounts forwards the 4inches.

The driveshafts I got dont fit anyway - not sure what sort of disco they are out of but they are slightly different lengths to whats under mine. So im going to have to cut and shut these eitherway.

Other drama Ive got is that the 42in tyres on 8in rims with 4in backspacing will hit the spring chassis mounts if they are mounted normally. So Ive either got to move the springs in a bit on the axles or get some wheel spacers or something. Not a bit job but still a PITA.

Sam

Post by **Strange Rover** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 7:38 am

planb wrote:Sam

are you using a zf4 or 5 ?

Not sure. Its out of a Land Rover Discovery. Anyone else know??

Sam

Post by **landy_man** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 7:43 am

it is a 4 speed..
out of interest they were also fitted to jaguars and many jag specialists have H/D packs for the ZF...

Post by **RaginRover** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 8:26 am

Sam I have a stock set of rover prop shafts front and rear from and early rangie did you want to measure them for before you cut your others ?

Tom

Post by **Strange Rover** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 9:26 am

RaginRover wrote:Sam I have a stock set of rover prop shafts front and rear from and early rangie did you want to measure them for before you cut your others ?

Tom

Ive actually got a stock set here in another rig. Ill measure them up and see if they would fit.

Sam

Post by **twinnie** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 1:02 pm

why the stock rover links? is it so if you break one you can replace it easerly? surly they will limit travel?

Matt

Post by **Strange Rover** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 10:31 pm

twinnie wrote:why the stock rover links? is it so if you break one you can replace it easerly? surly they will limit travel?

Matt

All the rear links are custom and the front ones are modified.

Not so much stock links but stock axle attachments. The rear ball will limit things but will give enough travle and the front radius arms also limit things but again give enough travel (actually they will give more than enough since Ive cranked them inwards)

Mega travel is overated and is unnecessary especially for the sort of driving that I do.

Sam

Post by **rick130** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 6:33 am

Sounds like Sam goes by the theory

"Its not how much ya got, Its how you use it that counts !"

Rick.

Post by **derangedrover** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 7:29 am

Looks good Sam. definately needs the 2a grille, bonnett and windscreen panel.

Out of interest, are you familiar with what is needed to get an individually constructed vehicle like the buggy registered in QLD?

Whats the front/rear weight balance going to be like? Are you going to keep the radiator front mounted?

Cheers
Daryl

Post by **Strange Rover** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 7:38 am

derangedrover wrote:Looks good Sam. definately needs the 2a grille, bonnett and windscreen panel.

Out of interest, are you familiar with what is needed to get an individually constructed vehicle like the buggy registered in QLD?

Whats the front/rear weight balance going to be like? Are you going to keep the radiator front mounted?

Cheers
Daryl

Bonnet and grill for sure but i dont think the windscreen panel would fit cause it would block half the windscreen.

Yes I looked at the individually constructed vehicle - basically you got to satisfy all current ADRs and pass all handling tests and convince the engineer that it is all strong enough and you are there. Dont have to crash test.

Front is heavier but it is fair bit less than twice as heavy. Guessing 60/40 at the moment.

Radiator wont be in front of the motor. Either above the motor or in the back.

Sam

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:28 am

Strange Rover wrote:Yes I looked at the individually constructed vehicle - basically you got to satisfy all current ADRs and pass all handling tests and convince the engineer that it is all strong enough and you are there. Dont have to crash test.

Sam

To satisfy ADR's for "new" individually constructed vehicles don't you also also have to fit an engine that is newer than 10 years old or something???

Post by **Strange Rover** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:47 am

ISUZUROVER wrote:
Strange Rover wrote:Yes I looked at the individually constructed vehicle - basically you got to satisfy all current ADRs and pass all handling tests and convince the engineer that it is all strong enough and you are there. Dont have to crash test.

Sam

To satisfy ADR's for "new" individually constructed vehicles don't you also also have to fit an engine that is newer than 10 years old or something???

I think that there is a rule that if its less than so many years old then you dont have to do an emmision test. If its older than that you have to pass the test. Basically anything running LPG only will pass the test I think.

Im not initially concerned with the rego ATM I just want to get it wheeling. I have already done a few things wrong that wont allow it to be engineered - biggest one is the roll cage (tube too small and not continuous hoop) but I can change all this if I have to. Im also looking at a few other rego types but if everything goes well this year on the competition scene it wont have to be regoed (but it would still be cool to be able to drive it on the street.

Sam

Post by **MY45** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:55 am

It'd be too cool and you'd end up driving it as your DD

But that would be cool anyway

Post by **twinnie** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 6:18 pm

Strange Rover wrote:Mega travel is overated and is unnecessary especially for the sort of driving that I do.

Sam

what road driving

nah it's the driver that counts and from what i've seen you are a pritty good driver

Matt

Post by **Flange Raider** » Thu Jan 08, 2004 2:30 pm

Strange Rover wrote:Im also looking at a few other rego types but if everything goes well this year on the competition scene it wont have to be regoed (but it would still be cool to be able to drive it on the street).

Sam

use it to tow the mog rover.. hehe.. niiiiice!

Post by **Strange Rover** » Fri Jan 09, 2004 7:18 pm

Actually drove it today.

Still got no shocks and the carb is running up to crap and have only got a foot pedal hooked up the the handbrake drum for brakes but at least it runs.

Drove the bridge easily (driving up the hard side) and up my rock pile easily - feels very light and maybe a little undergeared with the 42s although with the motor running badly its very hard to tell.

Got no exhaust either ATM so it a noisy mo fo.

Ruff took some pics so hopefully he will post them tonight.

Sam

Post by **Aza** » Fri Jan 09, 2004 7:52 pm

Strange Rover wrote:Actually drove it today.

Still got no shocks and the carb is running up to crap and have only got a foot pedal hooked up the the handbrake drum for brakes but at least it runs.

Drove the bridge easily (driving up the hard side) and up my rock pile easily - feels very light and maybe a little undergeared with the 42s although with the motor running badly its very hard to tell.

Got no exhaust either ATM so it a noisy mo fo.

Ruff took some pics so hopefully he will post them tonight.

Sam

nice sam, sounds impressive, when i get a car u guys can gladly help me :armsup:

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, cant wait to see the pics :twisted:

Post by **landy_man** » Fri Jan 09, 2004 7:55 pm

so i assume you got all the bits from jacmac....and fitted them...all good ???

waiting for bridge photos :armsup:

Post by **Aza** » Fri Jan 09, 2004 8:15 pm

forget gay sebastion...

SAM YOUR MY IDOL :armsup:

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Post by **RUFF** » Fri Jan 09, 2004 8:51 pm

Thats it but im sure i will get more tomorrow

Post by **landy_man** » Fri Jan 09, 2004 9:00 pm

OMFG....that is awsome.... it seems even lower than the mogrover..
in the one pic on the rocks it appears to be lifting the rear PS wheel...does the mogrover lift there as well....

the rear axle looks to be shaved somewhat :shock:

Post by **Strange Rover** » Fri Jan 09, 2004 9:02 pm

Thanks for tht Tony.

Havnt got the toy cvs in the front nor the new axles (these should turn up early next week cause they have already landed in bris but the transport guy had a bit of a balls up and didnt get it to me today) So in the front I still have the toy centre with custon jac mac axles but running rangie CVs.

Will be a bit of work to get them in cause I got to do the spindle mods but it will happen before xrcc.

Sam

Post by **landy_man** » Fri Jan 09, 2004 9:06 pm

I'm picking my toy cv's up tomorrow...how much work do you reckon the spindles will need

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