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exploded view of a WT transfere case?

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exploded view of a WT transfere case?

Post by brendan_h »

just after an exploded view of the transfere case. and what each thing in there are called.
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Post by Gwagensteve »

You need a factory service manual.

PS the exploded view isn't ideal as it doesn't show the difference between some of the part sizes - i.e there are a couple of spacers that can go on in the wrong place that aren't obvious until you go through the whole step by step thing in the manual.

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Post by brendan_h »

ok then. reason for asking is i got an order lined up from lockedtup for rebuilding my transferecase and also the input pilot bearing and the output pilot bearings. hopfully that fixes my problems.
how many output pilot bearings are there
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Post by Gwagensteve »

If you plan on fitting diff gears for yourself you REALLY need a factory manual. It will save lots of headaches - all the specs, tolerances etc are shown and it's 10000's of times easier to follow than some photo's and descriptions.

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Post by brendan_h »

not fitting diff gears or rtcase gears. jsut replaceing a few bearing
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Post by Gwagensteve »

Sorry I meant transfer gears.

Replacing bearings is exactly the same job as replacing transfer gears. You still need to have the procedure and tolerances etc.

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Post by want33s »

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or for a step by step guide: http://www.trail-gear.com/tech/zuk65gears/index.html

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Post by brendan_h »

thanks. how mnay pilot bearings are ther eon the outputs? just 1?
do you think rebuilding the case will fix my problem of lose output/input?
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Post by JrZook »

brendan_h wrote:thanks. how mnay pilot bearings are ther eon the outputs? just 1?
do you think rebuilding the case will fix my problem of lose output/input?
To be honest mate i never could make sense of your last post concerning the "lose" output/input.
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Post by MART »

What did they quote you to change the bearings , Cheers Paul.
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Post by brendan_h »

they didnt. if there lose and the nuts are tight then it must be bearings i guess
by movment i mean when i am under the car the flanges move up and down
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Post by want33s »

brendan_h wrote:the flanges move up and down
Why didn't you say that to start with????????????????????????
If the shafts/flanges can move vertically, the case must leak like a sieve!
Play vertically suggests bearings are beyond their 'use by' date.

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Post by brendan_h »

yes she does leak. so rebuild kit a good thing then?
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Post by MART »

Mate , if the shafts can move up and down , more than likely the gears will be shagged , and running with no oil definantly will shag them , you need to drop your case out , split it in half and check the damage , if it is not salvagable , get a second hand one to get your car going , SUZI FOUR at Dunheved will have the right one you need for arround $350 - $400 dollars , Where you at , PM me , Cheers Paul.
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Post by brendan_h »

i know suzi four. i do top the oil up. just i got crawler gears in then and dont want to lose them. so i though a rebuild would be alright.
it only moves up and down the slightest bit. i think enough to cause vibration
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Post by MART »

You need to post some pics of the suspension setup , being spoa , your angle of the tailshaft is probably causing your vibrations or a group of reasons due to the spoa conversion. Where your tailshafts lengthened properly , do they wobble while spinning , Cheers Paul.
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Post by GRPABT1 »

You put new transfer gears in without replacing the bearings? :roll:

I used this when changing my gears and it helped alot

http://www.trail-gear.com/tech/zuk65gears/index.html
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Post by want33s »

GRPABT1 wrote:You put new transfer gears in without replacing the bearings? :roll:

I used this when changing my gears and it helped alot

http://www.trail-gear.com/tech/zuk65gears/index.html
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Post by zookprojectfnq »

Hey want33s
Thanks for that trail gear step by step guide. just got a set of those 6.5 trail creeper gears from lockt up. Going to fit them tomorrow so that will help me heaps
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Post by Gwagensteve »

GRPABT1 wrote:You put new transfer gears in without replacing the bearings? :roll:

I used this when changing my gears and it helped alot

http://www.trail-gear.com/tech/zuk65gears/index.html
So did I - bearings were removed, washed, checked, and reassembled. They weren't noisy when I took them out so I had no reason to assume they needed replacement. I have had no issues with transfer case noise at all since the gears went in so it worked out for me.

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Post by GRPABT1 »

Your just cheap steve :P
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Post by lay80n »

How much movement do you acutally have in the output flanges, can you give us a figure, not just "a little bit". I couldnt understand your last post at all (I'm not the only one it seems). As MART said, post up a heap of pics of your setup, before you go and tear into a t-case. Are your bearings in the t-case noisy at all?

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Post by brendan_h »

the rear shaft is on a 20* angle. however when it never vibrated this badly.
the movment would be no more then 2-3mm
bearings in the t-case i cant tell over the engine
the tail shaft is fine but there is about 1-2mm in the splines moving
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Post by brendan_h »

what do you guys think i should do?
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Post by want33s »

brendan_h wrote:what do you guys think i should do?
If your case is leaking oil out of the seals it will need to be pulled apart. You have to split the case to do some of the seals so while it's apart renew the bearings.

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Post by brendan_h »

yer so buy that rebuild kit you recon? should i get the pilot bearings? there only an extra 10bucks each which is alright. but how many do i need?
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Post by want33s »

The Lowrange kit has everything needed except maybe one of the little needle roller bearings. This bearing is encased in between the shafts so I'd say yours is still OK.
When I rebuilt my case I replaced it but the old one was just as good as the new one.

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