Standard front bar on 40 series?

Post by **twr7cx** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:54 am

I've got to get a roadworthy done on my 1969 FJ45. It doesn't have a front bar on it at the moment, did this come out fitted with one, I assume they would have. Anyone have a photo of how they came out factory so I can see what I need to get/make.

How mine currently looks:

Is this a standard bar:

BTW - anyone able to give me a rough idea on what a bullbar would cost? I looked at an ARB one, not for this vehicle, but it was $1,600ish, is that about right?

Post by **vk7ybi** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:18 pm

Thats a stock bar.. Youre missing the gusset plate mount things for it though.. Are you sure its a '69?

Post by **jessie928** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:15 pm

just bolt on a piece of C chanel

if your truck is a 69, it has a complete newer tub, dorrs, screen and front clip.

Jes

Post by **toms47** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:57 pm

alternativly a 75 series bullbar from the wreckers will fit should be plenty around cheap. just have to watch the headlight spacing.

Post by **twr7cx** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:28 pm

vk7ybi wrote:Thats a stock bar.. Youre missing the gusset plate mount things for it though.. Are you sure its a '69?

It's what the registration and build plate say. I believe the cab has been changed.

Post by **twr7cx** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:31 pm

jessie928 wrote:just bolt on a piece of C chanel

Yeah, a mate is going to get me a 4" C beam and well just whack that on the front, 2 bolts into the chasis rails (there's already 2 holes there) and that should be fine for a while at least I reckon.

Post by **GeneralFubashi** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:00 pm

Even if you found an original bumper, it would still require the mounting plates which are riveted to the chassis and make the bumper protrude another few inches forward, allows the bottom of the c-channel to clear the spring hangers at the front. Most bullbars are designed with these brackets in mind also, so will save you much headaches just making a new bumper instead of trying to retrofit an ARB or the sort. However quite a few manufacturers have made bullbars that bolt straight to the chassis like yours. I have one of them, but its a real challenge finding them, best stop at the wreckers.

Post by **vk7ybi** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:34 pm

Best check the ADR too, I think bumpers need a 10mm radius on edges, a piece of C section will have sharper edges than that..

Post by **Hamo** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:56 pm

BTW - anyone able to give me a rough idea on what a bullbar would cost? I looked at an ARB one, not for this vehicle, but it was $1,600ish, is that about right?

You wont find a new ARB bar i got the last one in Australia 2 1/2 years ago

Post by **ol' 45** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:19 pm

g'day fellas,
I got an ARB winch for my HJ45 6months ago from a sunshine coast supplier and it cost me $790.00. Can email pics but don't know how to post up here. I had to wait for ARB to do a run of 45/40 bars but maybe it was good timing for me as I only had to wait 2-3 weeeks.

Cheers

Post by **Yo_jono** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:59 pm

I got a quote from ARB.

They told me $940 for a decent looking bullbar for the 40 series cruisers.
Mine is a 83 BJ42 i'm gathering its the same bar.

Cheers

Jonathan.

Post by **cruiser60series** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:42 pm

I used to have a front bar that was the bottom piece of a bull bar with all the verticals cut and ground off.

You could only tell up close. And you could find one fairly cheap.

Post by **richardsc** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:12 pm

or keep your eyes out on ebay,u often get cheap bars on there for 40 series

Post by **TWISTY** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:50 am

Can probably get a winch bar made like this for a fair bit cheaper then the ARB ones next year. Thinking of doing a run of them after mine is finished and we work out if any minor changes are needed.

Might not be technically legal in most states due to it not covering the whole of the front tyres. But most neat looking bars you see on 40 series dont anyway.

Post by **twr7cx** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:17 am

toms47 wrote:alternativly a 75 series bullbar from the wreckers will fit should be plenty around cheap. just have to watch the headlight spacing.

I reckon I'm going to go and do this. I drove past a truck and 4WD wrecker the other day, and he had heaps of bars lying there. Should be that hard to find one in similar sizing and then just make up some mounts for it.

Post by **jessie928** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:57 am

TWISTY wrote:Can probably get a winch bar made like this for a fair bit cheaper then the ARB ones next year. Thinking of doing a run of them after mine is finished and we work out if any minor changes are needed.

Might not be technically legal in most states due to it not covering the whole of the front tyres. But most neat looking bars you see on 40 series dont anyway.

is it just me or does that bar look like a " miniature" version of the origional size?

it looks like it needs to be bigger, ( fatter) its a sweet looking design though.

Jes

Post by **bj on roids** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:43 pm

jessie928 wrote:
TWISTY wrote:Can probably get a winch bar made like this for a fair bit cheaper then the ARB ones next year. Thinking of doing a run of them after mine is finished and we work out if any minor changes are needed.

Might not be technically legal in most states due to it not covering the whole of the front tyres. But most neat looking bars you see on 40 series dont anyway.
is it just me or does that bar look like a " miniature" version of the origional size?

it looks like it needs to be bigger, ( fatter) its a sweet looking design though.

Jes

I know what you are saying, but less is more, I really like it, and small, tight, compact, so it doesn't rob ground clearance, approach angle, airflow, and the looks from the 40 grille.

Plus if you have a body lift you could use it with a tilt front end by the looks of it...

Post by **twr7cx** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:17 pm

So, the first picture in my first post is my ute and how it was. The other week a mate and myself found an aluminium bull bar in a back paddock of a friend of his fathers, who said we could have it (no idea what it is originally off). A bit of modifying and here's the result:

Not a perfect fit, but you can't complain when it's free now can you!?! I'm looking at cutting off and lowering the 2 side top pipes as they block the top of the headlights and indicators. It'll do for now though.

I need to go and get some rectangular driving lights now to go in the middle.

Post by **bj on roids** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:48 am

That shouldn't pass a roadworthy like that.

I would say its from an early hilux.

Post by **tassietoyuki** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:25 am

Why shouldn't it pass roadworthy with this bar?
Is it because of the outer hoops

Post by **twr7cx** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:21 pm

bj on roids wrote:That shouldn't pass a roadworthy like that.

I would say its from an early hilux.

Nah, don't reckon it's from a Hilux as the sides on it where way longer than the front on any model Hilux I can think of.

Post by **twr7cx** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:22 pm

tassietoyuki wrote:Why shouldn't it pass roadworthy with this bar?
Is it because of the outer hoops

Yeah, it's blocking the indicators and headlamps somewhat.

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