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i want 33". tell me what i need to do this.

Tech Talk for Suzuki owners.

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i want 33". tell me what i need to do this.

Post by trolley »

ok guys, i got a suzi swb with 30" muddies and a rear airlocker.

i ultimately want to put 33"wheels on it for those deep as mud pits cause i got hooked up on my diffs like 4 times on the weekend.

can someone give me a shopping list of things that will need to be done.

like gear ratios and stuff like that.

that would be great.

and any down sides to having 33".

and how far can you have the wheels sticking out the side.
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Post by Gwagensteve »

You need to tell us HOW you want to do it.

There's more ways to run a 33 on a sierra than there are sierra's with 33's on them. How much money so you want to spend, how much work do you want to do to bodywork, what do you want to drive?

This setup will be massive cop bait in QLD, but I'm sure you already know that.

You can't "have the wheels sticking out the side" any distance at all legally- they must be covered.

PS - do a search- this has been covered a lot. Read some buildups.
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Post by trolley »

COP BAIT. DAMN.
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Post by trolley »

ILL CHECK SOME BUILDS. CHEERS MATE
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Post by Gwagensteve »

Want33's has lots of tech - search on him as an author on here and in the members page. He has an intelligently built car.

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Post by Ridge »

what has your car got on it at the moment?
any suspension lift, body lift?
whats your budget?
it doesnt rain much at all in brisbane so where do you find these mud holes?
4age zook ute in lots of bits
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Post by trolley »

I THINK IT HAS A 2" LIFT. NO BODY LIFT.
IT IS SAGGING AT THE FRONT..
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Post by trolley »

BUDGET WOULD BE LIKE 2.5GRAND OR SOMETHING AROUND THERE.
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Post by sierrajim »

You'll have some fun on a Sierra with a well thought out $2,500.

I'd be thinking of gearing along with your tyres. Both BBM and Locktup 4x4 will be able to help you with this.

Oh yeah,

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Post by trolley »

sweet. sorry im a draftmen so i use caps all the time. good poster :)
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Post by trolley »

i dont want the bloody cops harassing me all the time. maybe i should go for some 32" a little bit better centre of gravity... is that just as much work.

what about.

gearing in transfer case.
2inch body lifft.
fix front sagging leafs
and new rims cause mine have go crappy offset.
32" tyres.

whatya think??
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Post by Gonzo »

Or go 33x10.5 - that's what I had on my zook...
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Post by trolley »

yeah but i dont want the police giving me a hard time.

maybe 32" is a good idea
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Post by GRPABT1 »

You need a vitara with no lift....
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Post by just cruizin' »

Anything with more then 29's is going to look obvious
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Post by trolley »

i got 30" at the moment i just want a bit more clearance. and plus 30" is just a tad to small.
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Post by Gwagensteve »

Well I think 34 is a tad too small, but either way, Generally, Cops in QLD are red hot on "big" tyres on 4WD's.

30" is about as bif as you're going to get away with if you're driving it around town regularly in QLD, I think.

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Post by trolley »

yeah i drive too and from the city every day
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Post by just cruizin' »

Doesn't matter what you've got you are always going to want more. Whether it be tyres, lockers or gearing.
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Post by pubic »

have you thought about shaving your diff?

i havent had any experience on this, but, in theory, if you cut out an inch off the bottom of your diff, you will be getting the same benefits as running a 2" bigger tyre than what you have.

i.e every 2 inches you go bigger on your tyres, you only gain an inch under your diff.


can someone with actual proper knowledge on this either confirm or deny that this will work.
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Post by just cruizin' »

It'll work though I'm not sure how much you can shave, should be at least 25mm
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Post by Gwagensteve »

It will work, and careful attention to lots of other issues like spring plate clearance, shock mounts, gearbox crossmembers etc can achieve lots of gains when you are tyre limited.

EG - a 2" transfer case lift will allow modification of the gearbx crossmember to run a flat belly pan.

Spring plates like Twisty's 40 series (see his build thread in Members) will clean up this area.

It's worth remembering that sierra's often don't need the large footprint a big tyre permits- In fact, they often perform worse, especially with a 10.5 or 12.5" tyre because ground pressure gets too low, so there is definitely a case for a smaller tyre and clearance gained elsewhere creating a nice outcome, especially where you run the risk of hassles from police.

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Shaving Diffs

Post by BOGFROG »

Suzuki Sierra: half the size, half the weight, half the cost & twice the fun :lol: why would you drive anything else?
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Post by trolley »

if i get some of those plastic flare extensions for wheels that stick out the side will that be legal.?? and cheers for the help so far guys
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Re; Flares

Post by BOGFROG »

Thats all I used on mine 75mm Rubber flares but mine is a NT with 30x9.5x15's
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Just do a search for flares been covered plenty on here!
Suzuki Sierra: half the size, half the weight, half the cost & twice the fun :lol: why would you drive anything else?
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Post by trolley »

Will do. cheers.
i think ill go with the 32"s..
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Post by Highway-Star »

What about having 2 sets of tyres?

Keep your 30s for around town and normal use, and buy some 33s for the weekend.

If you do, also look into a rattle gun and compressor, makes life so much easier :)
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Post by Kitika »

I lurv my 235/85r16 (32/9.5R16) which I've fitted with only guard chopping and a 1/2 Ruf and I reckon I could easily fit 33/12.5 on too because I did cut out a large amount. To me it doesn't look very obvious that it's got very large tyres because of the tyre width, lack of any type of lift and the 16 inch rims kind of helps disguise the size.
Also I'm on the skinny tyre side of tyre width debate because of how they dig in for grip instead of floating in mud and other slippery/loose surfaces. Also less weight and leverage to help bust up CV's on the skinnys too
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Post by zoook »

33x12.5s on a zook makes steering on a stock ( non power steer zook ) pretty tough work at low speeds such as rocks etc i had the tyres from my cruiser on for a day for a test and hated it, i also reckon a skinny tyre goes better , i have just got 7.5x16s they are actually 8.5 wide and 32.5 high and i reckon they go good and there not that obvious with wider diffs under the car
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Post by lockdup »

mate it wont matter if you get 32" or 33" tyres on your zook. In QLD they are both illegal and just as noticeable. i say you keep you 30's and buy a set of weekend only tyres as mentioned above
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