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Post by **bigbluemav** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:07 pm

chimpboy wrote:Get your hand off it... for that money it should all bolt in without a hitch and include all the extras.

Plus, when he complained they didn't say "oh, you need a retainer" they said, "oh, you must have fitted it wrong." Not good enough!

$6000!! Agreed, should fit itself for that!! And have no probs!!

Post by **Yom** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:03 pm

Is it a Mav or a Patrol?

They probably sold you a lift kit for a Patrol. Mav's are different. Ford used smaller axles from the XB Falcon. As a result you probably need to fit some dropout cones and fit retainers to the bottom of the coil

Fact.

Post by **1MadEngineer** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:56 pm

so let me get this right? you bought the kit through some one other than superior?? and someone else fitted it?

so apart from having shocks that have heaps of flex and NOT having $90 cone dropouts! how does it work? i gather it has F###'n awesome flex then!

Really if its just cone dropouts that is required, then speak directly to Mick at superior, I am positive he will give you a set. FFS they are only a few bucks, and he fits them to pretty much all the trucks he does. Who did you speak to about this? (PM me) I gather it wasn't him.

Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:22 pm

"want to be a wylie" i a couple of questions .
I have Just been informed of this post and thought i had better have a look.
As the director of Superior Engineering i have not heard anything about this kit "i am assuming it is our kit " or at least some of our parts by the prior post that had red highlighted " Superior Engineeering"

Assuming it is our kit was it purchased directly though us or from a reseller?

If it was from us who and when did you contact our staff regarding this problem.

If it was from a reseller PM me the contact details of the reseller and the qualified fitter, and why was i not contacted?

Our flex kits are sold with coil drop cones when the larger shocks are supplied, the customers have a couple of choices which shock to use, wondering why no coil drop outs are in the kit.

I have checked our emails and no record of any such mention of this problem??

If this is not our kit or parts or anything to do with Superior Engineering please clarify this in the post.

Your quick response will be appreciated.
Michael Hayes

Post by **1MadEngineer** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:24 am

I just looked at the superior website and found this
http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/p ... ts_id=3502

Superior 4-5 inch lift kit Superflex Radius Arms
[TD4SFKT1] $3,819.00
Superior 4-5 inch lift kit Superflex Radius Arms
Click to enlarge

Superior Engineering has put together kit to lift your nissan 4-5 inchs. Kit includes 4x Dobinson coils, 4 x45mm Tough dog Big Bore Adjustable shocks, 1x tough dog EXT Steering damper, 1x Front and 1x rear H/D adjustable Panard rods,1 x pair SuperFlex Radius Arms, 2 x extended brake lines, 1 x extended diff breather kit, 1 x extended brake proportioning valve bracket , (options are 4x sway bar disconnects or 2 x rear upper adjustable Control arms or 2 x rear lower control arms) 1 x 4140 H/D adjustable Drag Link, 2 x coil drop out cones.
Superior Engineering will contact you upon receiving the order to dicuss coil rates.

As you see it says - 2xcoil drop out cones!! and call to discuss spiring rates! The other thing i noticed was the price - only $3819 NOT $6000

something sounds fishy here?

you would have to add a FULL long arm kit AND a set of Chromo CAL cv's to get near $6k

Post by **chimpboy** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:47 am

In fairness WTBAW didn't say it was superior, it has come to that from people putitng two and two together to make 7.

But it probably would be fair to at least clarify who it wasn't at this stage.

Post by **1MadEngineer** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:19 am

Micka wrote:
Micka wrote:Dude...you need to take some responsibility for this too. You are a member of this forum and you can't figure out to retain the coils or build some dislocation cones?

Did you search for info on lifts for Patrols?

Did you ask any questions on which products/people/places to use?

Sorry mate...but harden up and build, or have made, a retaining device or cones and wheel the fawker.

Time to lose the nappies.
I must apologise...you did research it.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic153 ... highlight=

I think your right micka, the company to which the original enquiry relates (not superior eng or bbm) offers a 5" kit that DOESN'T come with cone dropouts and $$'s wise is closer to the suggested final cost. I won't summize too much till WTBAW confirms it!

Post by **Suspension Stuff** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:17 pm

I think it is safe to say that if it wasn't a Superior or Suspension Stuff kit then he hasn't been taking advice from the right people.

Post by **Guy** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:25 pm

SuperiorEngineering wrote:"want to be a wylie" i a couple of questions .
I have Just been informed of this post and thought i had better have a look.
As the director of Superior Engineering i have not heard anything about this kit "i am assuming it is our kit " or at least some of our parts by the prior post that had red highlighted " Superior Engineeering"

Assuming it is our kit was it purchased directly though us or from a reseller?

If it was from us who and when did you contact our staff regarding this problem.

If it was from a reseller PM me the contact details of the reseller and the qualified fitter, and why was i not contacted?

Our flex kits are sold with coil drop cones when the larger shocks are supplied, the customers have a couple of choices which shock to use, wondering why no coil drop outs are in the kit.

I have checked our emails and no record of any such mention of this problem??

If this is not our kit or parts or anything to do with Superior Engineering please clarify this in the post.

Your quick response will be appreciated.
Michael Hayes

Really well said.
Some people would go off their nut about things like this very professional.

Post by **Roctoy** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:21 pm

1MadEngineer wrote:
Micka wrote:
Micka wrote:Dude...you need to take some responsibility for this too. You are a member of this forum and you can't figure out to retain the coils or build some dislocation cones?

Did you search for info on lifts for Patrols?

Did you ask any questions on which products/people/places to use?

Sorry mate...but harden up and build, or have made, a retaining device or cones and wheel the fawker.

Time to lose the nappies.
I must apologise...you did research it.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic153 ... highlight=
I think your right micka, the company to which the original enquiry relates (not superior eng or bbm) offers a 5" kit that DOESN'T come with cone dropouts and $$'s wise is closer to the suggested final cost. I won't summize too much till WTBAW confirms it!

like this kit?

http://www.snakeracing.com.au/nisGQmegalift.html

Post by **bogged** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:50 pm

SuperiorEngineering wrote:"want to be a wylie" i a couple of questions .
I have Just been informed of this post and thought i had better have a look.
As the director of Superior Engineering i have not heard anything about this kit "i am assuming it is our kit " or at least some of our parts by the prior post that had red highlighted " Superior Engineeering"

Assuming it is our kit was it purchased directly though us or from a reseller?

If it was from us who and when did you contact our staff regarding this problem.

If it was from a reseller PM me the contact details of the reseller and the qualified fitter, and why was i not contacted?

Our flex kits are sold with coil drop cones when the larger shocks are supplied, the customers have a couple of choices which shock to use, wondering why no coil drop outs are in the kit.

I have checked our emails and no record of any such mention of this problem??

If this is not our kit or parts or anything to do with Superior Engineering please clarify this in the post.

Your quick response will be appreciated.
Michael Hayes

Good to see ya replied

Post by **midi73** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:14 pm

bru21 wrote:for 6k you could get fox coil overs fitted!!!

For 6k I would want the car with it.

Post by **1MadEngineer** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:24 pm

mystery solved!!!

quote!

want to be a wylie wrote:I am also having this problem atm

I have had a full snake kit fitted so all new bushes and tie rods
Every thing is new.

Nice hay, spend $5500 on new everything and still have problem

But it dose look very new and shiny under the patrol now.

(So I assume that it’s the swivel hubs)

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/sutra1533 ... t=#1533440

(this way at least I didn't have to name and shame!!! he did it himself

)

Post by **1MadEngineer** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:27 pm

bogged wrote:
SuperiorEngineering wrote:"want to be a wylie" i a couple of questions .
I have Just been informed of this post and thought i had better have a look.
As the director of Superior Engineering i have not heard anything about this kit "i am assuming it is our kit " or at least some of our parts by the prior post that had red highlighted " Superior Engineeering"

Assuming it is our kit was it purchased directly though us or from a reseller?

If it was from us who and when did you contact our staff regarding this problem.

If it was from a reseller PM me the contact details of the reseller and the qualified fitter, and why was i not contacted?

Our flex kits are sold with coil drop cones when the larger shocks are supplied, the customers have a couple of choices which shock to use, wondering why no coil drop outs are in the kit.

I have checked our emails and no record of any such mention of this problem??

If this is not our kit or parts or anything to do with Superior Engineering please clarify this in the post.

Your quick response will be appreciated.
Michael Hayes
Good to see ya replied

yes its refreshing to know there are suppliers out there that will stand by there stuff (turns out not his problem anyway) and go to every effort to make sure the customer is happy. Its a shame they ALL aren't like that.

Post by **ajsr** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:39 pm

1MadEngineer wrote:mystery solved!!!

quote!
want to be a wylie wrote:I am also having this problem atm

I have had a full snake kit fitted so all new bushes and tie rods
Every thing is new.

Nice hay, spend $5500 on new everything and still have problem

But it dose look very new and shiny under the patrol now.

(So I assume that it’s the swivel hubs)
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/sutra1533 ... t=#1533440

(this way at least I didn't have to name and shame!!! he did it himself )

the supplier in question is one of the rudest mo farkers ive ever had the misfortune of dealing with.
Id rather no parts than give them another cent of my hard earned
just my 2c

good luck with the kit problem I think your going to need it with that mob.

Post by **chimpboy** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:58 pm

ajsr wrote:
1MadEngineer wrote:mystery solved!!!

quote!
want to be a wylie wrote:I am also having this problem atm

I have had a full snake kit fitted so all new bushes and tie rods
Every thing is new.

Nice hay, spend $5500 on new everything and still have problem

But it dose look very new and shiny under the patrol now.

(So I assume that it’s the swivel hubs)
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/sutra1533 ... t=#1533440

(this way at least I didn't have to name and shame!!! he did it himself )

the supplier in question is one of the rudest mo farkers ive ever had the misfortune of dealing with.
Id rather no parts than give them another cent of my hard earned
just my 2c

good luck with the kit problem I think your going to need it with that mob.

It will be interesting to hear what they say, because sites like this have a looooong memory.

Post by **SuperiorEngineering** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:26 pm

I am glad this has nothing to do with Superior Engineering

We had a staff meeting today in regards to this matter and none of the staff had heard of any such problem, so i was pretty damn sure it was not our suspension .

Thank you to the readers who did not " jump to conclusions"

Michael Hayes

Post by **nottie** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:46 pm

Why in the fark would someone want to lift a pootrol 5 inches anyway????
They drive bad enough from factory

Its very funny though that since the supplier has been found and named there has not been 1 person come to there defence

Post by **ajsr** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:49 pm

SuperiorEngineering wrote:I am glad this has nothing to do with Superior Engineering

We had a staff meeting today in regards to this matter and none of the staff had heard of any such problem, so i was pretty damn sure it was not our suspension .

Thank you to the readers who did not " jump to conclusions"

Michael Hayes

I think Michael your to be commended for the way you have calmly dealt with the fact that at one stage this kit could have come from you fellars, and were happy to nut out him problem intstead of just telling him he's a tool. I think a lot of sellers could take a leaf for your book.
You have won my business in the future.
good one superior
cheers andrew

Post by **coxy321** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:49 pm

Not that it really matters now, but....

Shadow wrote:
If your looking for the complete package for your Nissan GQ coil sprung Wagon, tray back or SWB then this is it all in one simple 100% bolt on kit.

= http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q ... arch&meta=

= http://www.snakeracing.com.au/nisGQmegalift.html

Keep us updated with your progress, or lack thereof.

Post by **nottie** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:56 pm

Bet he wished he got his Kit from Mick at Superior now

Not only would his springs be still in there but if they did for some farked reason fall out they would be happy to figure out why

I am still interested who fit the kit

Post by **LUX90** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:23 pm

I will give Superior a huge arms up

for customer service as well, I had purchased a Hilux lift off him and it wasn't sitting right.

Rang him and he said come over and he will measure it ( on i think it was xmas eve last year, he said we aren't really open but pop over anyway ) He got it all sorted out for me to have it fixed by the supplier really quickly, no hassles, no blaming it was fitted wrong or anything.

One happy customer here

Never had a drama with any of their stuff ( on my hilux or patrol) and they are always happy to give you advice to help you out

Post by **mavzilla** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:30 pm

Ok i have just inserted the 3000 watt bulb in the lamp and have cut 6 lengthjs of rubber hose and have been collecting a couple of phone books as well, ice cubes and bamboo shards,battery acid and a few magnifying glasses as well so point me in the right direction and i will get ya some answers?????????OH ya if they hold out realy hard i will make them watch jeep videos and that will break them!!!sorry about the humour ,but i find myself funny if no one else does. Ok bang in some drop cones and put it down to experience. Oh ya supperior ,I just want to come and buy somthing of you right now(nice follow up service on a non related querie,but good to see the service) verdict SN SANK snae some sort of reptile and im not namin names. thank s for listenin

Post by **waxen** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:55 pm

The fitter whoever it is isn't much chop if they will let a job out the door without at least suggesting action by the owner. FFS I thought it was rule 101 to check that springs are retained.

Post by **coxy321** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:00 am

waxen wrote:The fitter whoever it is isn't much chop if they will let a job out the door without at least suggesting action by the owner. FFS I thought it was rule 101 to check that springs are retained.

Dont know about the other states, but in VIC springs must be retained completely at full suspension drop in order to be roadworthy.

Post by **Suspension Stuff** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:33 am

coxy321 wrote:
waxen wrote:The fitter whoever it is isn't much chop if they will let a job out the door without at least suggesting action by the owner. FFS I thought it was rule 101 to check that springs are retained.
Dont know about the other states, but in VIC springs must be retained completely at full suspension drop in order to be roadworthy.

In Qld you can't go over a 2" lift but every 2nd vehicle that drives past the shop is higher then 2 inches.

Post by **Suspension Stuff** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:33 am

ajsr wrote:
SuperiorEngineering wrote:I am glad this has nothing to do with Superior Engineering

We had a staff meeting today in regards to this matter and none of the staff had heard of any such problem, so i was pretty damn sure it was not our suspension .

Thank you to the readers who did not " jump to conclusions"

Michael Hayes
I think Michael your to be commended for the way you have calmly dealt with the fact that at one stage this kit could have come from you fellars, and were happy to nut out him problem intstead of just telling him he's a tool. I think a lot of sellers could take a leaf for your book.
You have won my business in the future.
good one superior
cheers andrew

That is bold of you for saying.

Post by **Shadow** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:46 pm

mavzilla wrote:Ok i have just inserted the 3000 watt bulb in the lamp and have cut 6 lengthjs of rubber hose and have been collecting a couple of phone books as well, ice cubes and bamboo shards,battery acid and a few magnifying glasses as well so point me in the right direction and i will get ya some answers?????????OH ya if they hold out realy hard i will make them watch jeep videos and that will break them!!!sorry about the humour ,but i find myself funny if no one else does. Ok bang in some drop cones and put it down to experience. Oh ya supperior ,I just want to come and buy somthing of you right now(nice follow up service on a non related querie,but good to see the service) verdict SN SANK snae some sort of reptile and im not namin names. thank s for listenin

wtf.

just w t f

Post by **coxy321** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:56 pm

Shadow wrote:
mavzilla wrote:Ok i have just inserted the 3000 watt bulb in the lamp and have cut 6 lengthjs of rubber hose and have been collecting a couple of phone books as well, ice cubes and bamboo shards,battery acid and a few magnifying glasses as well so point me in the right direction and i will get ya some answers?????????OH ya if they hold out realy hard i will make them watch jeep videos and that will break them!!!sorry about the humour ,but i find myself funny if no one else does. Ok bang in some drop cones and put it down to experience. Oh ya supperior ,I just want to come and buy somthing of you right now(nice follow up service on a non related querie,but good to see the service) verdict SN SANK snae some sort of reptile and im not namin names. thank s for listenin
wtf.

just w t f

Translation:

Mr Wylie, i recommend that you find a reputable dealer and simply purchase some suitable drop-out cones that will fit your vehicle, and put your current dilemma to rest. You can keep it as a future reference, so as never to deal with this particularly awful supplier again.

From the research i have done on the subject matter, it of my personal beleif that Mr. Wylie purchased his parts off the business known as "Snake Racing", although this is just my opinion - not a known fact as yet.

Thankyou for taking the time to read my post.

Kindest regards,

Mr. Mavzilla

End Translation.

Post by **1MadEngineer** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:17 pm

coxy321 wrote:
Shadow wrote:
mavzilla wrote:Ok i have just inserted the 3000 watt bulb in the lamp and have cut 6 lengthjs of rubber hose and have been collecting a couple of phone books as well, ice cubes and bamboo shards,battery acid and a few magnifying glasses as well so point me in the right direction and i will get ya some answers?????????OH ya if they hold out realy hard i will make them watch jeep videos and that will break them!!!sorry about the humour ,but i find myself funny if no one else does. Ok bang in some drop cones and put it down to experience. Oh ya supperior ,I just want to come and buy somthing of you right now(nice follow up service on a non related querie,but good to see the service) verdict SN SANK snae some sort of reptile and im not namin names. thank s for listenin
wtf.

just w t f
Translation:

Mr Wylie, i recommend that you find a reputable dealer and simply purchase some suitable drop-out cones that will fit your vehicle, and put your current dilemma to rest. You can keep it as a future reference, so as never to deal with this particularly awful supplier again.

From the research i have done on the subject matter, it of my personal beleif that Mr. Wylie purchased his parts off the business known as "Snake Racing", although this is just my opinion - not a known fact as yet.

Thankyou for taking the time to read my post.

Kindest regards,

Mr. Mavzilla

End Translation.

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