Notice: We request that you don't just set up a new account at this time if you are a previous user.
If you used to be one of our moderators, please feel free to reach out to Chris via the facebook Outerlimits4x4 group and he will get you set back up with access should he need you.
Recovery:If you cannot access your old email address and don't remember your password, please click here to log a change of email address so you can do a password reset.

hj60 front brake upgrade

Tech Talk for Cruiser owners.

Moderators: toaddog, Elmo, DUDELUX

Post Reply
Posts: 2
Joined: Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:01 am
Location: bargo

hj60 front brake upgrade

Post by lukejet »

i have been reading alot about what to put on the front of a 60 series to get it to stop. from what i can work out V6 4 runner calipers and a 80 series master cylinder. now the question is what year 4 runner should i be looking for and should i change the master cylinder only or the booster aswell. i now the master has to come from a drum brake rear 80 series. if anyone could help with this one that would be great.
thanks in advance
Posts: 242
Joined: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:56 pm
Location: Brisbane

Post by stockhorse »

Unless your current rotors,master cylinder etc are stuffed, don't bother with the swap.I have done 2 now with friends and It gives a slightly better feel to the pedal but the stopping power isn't noticable(stopping in shorter distance etc).
Posts: 15549
Joined: Tue Oct 22, 2002 9:23 am
Location: Your Mummas House!

Post by bj on roids »

You can upgrade, but it ain't really worthwhile, I would just make what you have a little better.
hands and mums dont count!!!
Posts: 1031
Joined: Sun May 01, 2005 10:22 pm
Location: Newcastle 2300

Post by joel HJ60 »

The V6 calipers your after are '93. Larger pistons.
[b]1985 HJ60[/b]

[url]http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons[/url]
Posts: 3038
Joined: Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:06 pm
Location: VIC

Re: hj60 front brake upgrade

Post by dogbreath_48 »

lukejet wrote:i have been reading alot about what to put on the front of a 60 series to get it to stop. from what i can work out V6 4 runner calipers and a 80 series master cylinder. now the question is what year 4 runner should i be looking for and should i change the master cylinder only or the booster aswell. i now the master has to come from a drum brake rear 80 series. if anyone could help with this one that would be great.
thanks in advance
Don't think there's such thing as a drum brake rear 80 series.

I use an FJ80 master and booster with 4runner calipers (35mm, as opposed to 45mm v6 'runner ones which are obviously better again) and standard rear drums on my HJ75 - was a huge improvement over the old brakes but i think they were getting past their used-by (Having said that my heavy Troopy on 37's stops just as well, if not better than my old mans completely stock HJ75 ute - pedal feel is better too)

-Stu :)
Tetanus rolling on 37's
Posts: 286
Joined: Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:06 pm
Location: N.Q.

Re: hj60 front brake upgrade

Post by bigbrowndog »

dogbreath_48 wrote:
lukejet wrote:i have been reading alot about what to put on the front of a 60 series to get it to stop. from what i can work out V6 4 runner calipers and a 80 series master cylinder. now the question is what year 4 runner should i be looking for and should i change the master cylinder only or the booster aswell. i now the master has to come from a drum brake rear 80 series. if anyone could help with this one that would be great.
thanks in advance
Don't think there's such thing as a drum brake rear 80 series.

I use an FJ80 master and booster with 4runner calipers (35mm, as opposed to 45mm v6 'runner ones which are obviously better again) and standard rear drums on my HJ75 - was a huge improvement over the old brakes but i think they were getting past their used-by (Having said that my heavy Troopy on 37's stops just as well, if not better than my old mans completely stock HJ75 ute - pedal feel is better too)

-Stu :)
Cheers, the 1990 80 series with the poverty pack and 3F had drums on the rear.
Posts: 5179
Joined: Fri Dec 05, 2003 8:15 pm
Location: Brisbane Australia

Post by Shadow »

my 60 series will lock all 4 33x12.5's on dry bitumen. Why would you need to upgrade?

If they arent stopping your vehicle adequately, try some maintenance first.
Posts: 2097
Joined: Tue Aug 12, 2003 6:50 pm
Location: wollongong

Post by dow50r »

Shadow wrote:my 60 series will lock all 4 33x12.5's on dry bitumen. Why would you need to upgrade?

If they arent stopping your vehicle adequately, try some maintenance first.
try it with 35's, theres no use running 80 brake master without 80 booster, the 80 booster is 20% larger than 60 to assist push the fluid.
The 35mm piston callipers are std 1990 plus hilux/75 series. They have 2 pistons larger than the std 22/35 60 series calliper, plus the pad is longer...you dont need to change master and/or booster for them however the v6 4runner or surf calliper (any year) runs 4x45mm pistons....now they need a 80 booster and master. All i can say is this combo used to flatten my front ARB springs on my old hj60..i ended up putting 2 extra leafs in them....dont know why the others have had mixed results, unless an 80 master has been bolted to a 60 booster.
Andrew
Confucious say...man who argue with idiot, worserer himself
Posts: 15549
Joined: Tue Oct 22, 2002 9:23 am
Location: Your Mummas House!

Re: hj60 front brake upgrade

Post by bj on roids »

bigbrowndog wrote:
dogbreath_48 wrote:
lukejet wrote:i have been reading alot about what to put on the front of a 60 series to get it to stop. from what i can work out V6 4 runner calipers and a 80 series master cylinder. now the question is what year 4 runner should i be looking for and should i change the master cylinder only or the booster aswell. i now the master has to come from a drum brake rear 80 series. if anyone could help with this one that would be great.
thanks in advance
Don't think there's such thing as a drum brake rear 80 series.

I use an FJ80 master and booster with 4runner calipers (35mm, as opposed to 45mm v6 'runner ones which are obviously better again) and standard rear drums on my HJ75 - was a huge improvement over the old brakes but i think they were getting past their used-by (Having said that my heavy Troopy on 37's stops just as well, if not better than my old mans completely stock HJ75 ute - pedal feel is better too)

-Stu :)
Cheers, the 1990 80 series with the poverty pack and 3F had drums on the rear.
YEP! Real early pov pack can have drums on the back, unless it was delivered to a mine.

Just do soem maintenance on your existing brakes, they work good enough on most 60s.
hands and mums dont count!!!
Posts: 286
Joined: Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:06 pm
Location: N.Q.

Post by bigbrowndog »

dow50r wrote:
Shadow wrote:my 60 series will lock all 4 33x12.5's on dry bitumen. Why would you need to upgrade?

If they arent stopping your vehicle adequately, try some maintenance first.
try it with 35's, theres no use running 80 brake master without 80 booster, the 80 booster is 20% larger than 60 to assist push the fluid.
The 35mm piston callipers are std 1990 plus hilux/75 series. They have 2 pistons larger than the std 22/35 60 series calliper, plus the pad is longer...you dont need to change master and/or booster for them however the v6 4runner or surf calliper (any year) runs 4x45mm pistons....now they need a 80 booster and master. All i can say is this combo used to flatten my front ARB springs on my old hj60..i ended up putting 2 extra leafs in them....dont know why the others have had mixed results, unless an 80 master has been bolted to a 60 booster.
Andrew
X2
Even going to HZJ calipers made a big difference to my HJ75 with 33x12.5 x15 especially when it's got a heavy load on it. Bigger pad and 2 large pistons, better clamping effect. The bigger pistons and pad in the 4 runner, better again. cheers
Image
Image
Image
Image
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests