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Sierra, SR20 with Bundera diffs build

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Sierra, SR20 with Bundera diffs build

Post by Mudbits »

I bought a 1986 LJ71 Landcruiser for the diffs:
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Then stripped it down to the chassis:
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Then cut the chassis up:
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Then started fitting the mounts for the radius arms on to the Sierra chassis. I managed to use one side of the original spring hangers to align the new mounts:
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Rear diff bolted in place. Has moved the diff back about 350mm:
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Some Vitara rear spring perches which i cut out of the chassis but haven't cleaned them up yet:
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Post by david123 »

Great project, looking forward to the full build as it happens.
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Post by jimbo jones »

nice work so far keen to see how it turns out :armsup:
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Post by GRPABT1 »

nice, I like the idea of using stock stuff, it leave aftermarket options open.
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Post by v840 »

Coooooool! Looking forward to watching it come together! :cool:
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Post by Mudbits »

Here is a mock up of the rear end using Honda springs and Holden shocks.

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Post by david123 »

excellent shocky angle.

hurry up an get it together.

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Post by Mudbits »

Here is a little more progress.

Marked out ready to cut:
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The back fell off:
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New rear crossmember/Bumper welded in place with Honda Ascot top hats welded to it and Honda Ascot springs using Vitara diff spring perches:
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Post by Mudbits »

Here are a few photos of the Suzuki chassis being cut off and the Toyota one being grafted on:

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Post by GRPABT1 »

I'm loving this build. Is this thing going to be engineered or even registered or some sort of comp monster? Cause I think you're on the right track to have one very very capable vehicle, light, flexxy and strong where it counts.
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Post by david123 »

A question.
Why did you square cut the chassis, when truck chassis are cut, they are done with a sort of Z cut, so that the welds are a lot longer meaning much more support, and strength.

Please don't think im questioning your work, im just enquiring.
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Post by BlueSuzy »

Looks like it would have been easier just to use the bundy chassis, and make up mounts for the body and bits etc..
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Post by v840 »

david123 wrote:A question.
Why did you square cut the chassis, when truck chassis are cut, they are done with a sort of Z cut, so that the welds are a lot longer meaning much more support, and strength.

Please don't think im questioning your work, im just enquiring.
I would imagine that he will run fish plates or similar over the vertical buttwelds.
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Post by 11_evl »

BlueSuzy wrote:Looks like it would have been easier just to use the bundy chassis, and make up mounts for the body and bits etc..
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Post by Mudbits »

Truth is that I got lazy. I could have mounted all the components on to the Suzuki chassis but, by using the Toyota one everything is lined up. Coil perches match up, panhard will bolt up, shocks line up, plus I can run the heavier Toyota steering box. And the engine mounts are close to fitting the SR20 too.
I was going to do a better join where the two meet but it would have been more difficult to align the two together. The two different widths dont help nor do the two different sections, one is 100mm and the other 120mm so I just chose to but join it then will beef it up from here.

Yes using the full Toyota chassis would have been much easier but it is so heavy! The front part is 15kg heavier than the Suzuki part I cut off!

If it breaks when its finished you are welcome to say I told you so.
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Post by dr who? »

i think its a cool build, something different, ive got a lj70 chassis sitting in my shed and was going to swap axles, steering into the sj, but this could be just as much work but stronger in the areas that count
anyway good work fella
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Post by 11_evl »

updates??
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Post by Mudbits »

I haven't done much on this project lately as I have a Grand Vitara project I am building up as well.
I have joined the two chassis's together and just need to finish the plating on the join. Managed to get it all rolling. Picked up a roll cage which won't need much modifying to make it fit.
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Post by Goatse.AJ »

Lookin' :cool: :cool: :cool:

Can't wait to see more of it come together :armsup:
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Post by GRPABT1 »

What's the wheelbase and what size tyre you going to be running?
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Post by jimbo jones »

when do you think it will be ready?
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Post by Ridge »

will this be registered or some comp buggy?
what are you going to do for a fuel tank, where will it be mounted?
i have been thinking of the same diff swap for mine, so take heaps of pics.
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Post by Remydog05 »

Anymore done??

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Post by flaxton »

kool truck mate ..but if u dont mind me saying thosr control arm mounts look like big masive rock anchores ...but i like the cusdtom route ur taking
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Post by Mudbits »

No new progress as yet as i have been trying to gather some parts.
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Post by Mudbits »

Just an update, this project has been scrapped and sold off as parts as I encountered a few issues which I could solve by using a different starting platform.
Some of these were:
Length of SR20 auto and/or adapting it to a transfer
Rear disk brakes
With these pin type trailing arms they would have been binding up in the bushes with longer coils as I mounted them at standard height.
They might seem minor problems but the project wasn't coming together in the way I wanted it too.
As stated before I have been collecting parts for the new truck which has taken a while to learn what fits with these Toyota parts but I now have the basics figured out and with post the new build thread soon.
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