defects

Post by **sheps** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:50 am

Jacked wrote:in melb if a spare is fitted it must be rwc.

if you pull the spare out its only roadworthy if you pull the jack and wheel brace out aswell.

that's a strange one. i only take a spare if i am on my own and as i mostly play with other zuk's i would just bludge one.

Post by **danssurf82** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:37 pm

i got defected at stockton beach on australia day
94 vit-
he got me for tyres-too big and stick out of guard(31x10.5)
rear fog light cable tied on(still working tho)
thats it, he was an a-hole to a point but very god damn stupid cause a rear fog light is not needed by law

he didnt get me for-
lift-including spacers
cut guards and firewall bashed in about 2 inches
no carpet
welded diff

most cops dont know what they r looking for in a 4wd, they only know about road cars which have mods
the blue slip place i went to was only concerned with what was written on the defect notice and he cleared the tyres and said "the fog light? was this guy drunk or just plain stupid"

Post by **Spike_Sierra** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:07 pm

im sorry, but why would they care if you ran carpet or not?

Post by **danssurf82** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:12 pm

cause when your feet are wet the floor is very slippery....

Post by **Gwagensteve** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:25 pm

Carpet is not, as far as I am aware, a defctable item.

my 1.0 was RWCed with no carpet in it.

LJ suzuki's had no carpet/vinyl/anything stock.

Steve.

Post by **brendan_h** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:26 pm

why does it matter if the floor is wet and slippery? feet on the pedles

Post by **danssurf82** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:30 pm

dont know, my mate got defected in his tj jeep for no carpet

Post by **brendan_h** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:54 pm

danssurf82 wrote:dont know, my mate got defected in his tj jeep for no carpet

cops will pick at anything just to get you done and the more you argue the more stupid thing they will make up.

Post by **lay80n** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:38 pm

Your best bet is to keep calm and dont give them attitude. Some cops suck. But most are pretty cool. As long as your are not driving a death trap of bootyfab and be polite and nice you will usually be fine. I have been pulled over for RBT before with swampers hanging out etc. Been polite, had a quick chat then off you go. I acutally get more looks from cops in my turbo liberty than my zook.

As for cops acutally knowing what they are looking at. Plain and simple the majority dont. I have seen that many stupid defects handed out. The police issue a defect if they think its defective. The onus is on the owner to prove otherwise. It sucks that a mechanic has to do 4 years of apprenticeship, 2 more years in the trade then a course to be legally able to judge a cars roadworthness, but a police officer undergoes litterally none to make the same decision.

*note - this is not a dig at all police, just some :

*

Layto....

Post by **danssurf82** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:53 pm

i agree...
the mechanic told me not to put my 31's back on but the vit looked g a y
so i put them back on.. couldnt resist..

Post by **Guy** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:11 pm

danssurf82 wrote:dont know, my mate got defected in his tj jeep for no carpet

If there are holes etc in the carpet it is defectable, but not defectable for no carpet ...

Post by **gadZOOKs** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:54 am

basically, for the people who dont know: blue slips in NSW are usually difficult to get through. You have to get your vehicle back to standard . Now by standard I mean, if it came out with 26 inch tyres, you have to run 26 inch tyres. If it came out with door skins it must have door skins. If it came out with a spare, you must have a spare (it doesnt matter if u take your jack and wheel brace out or not it all has to be there and be roadworthy) tears in seats are NOT ok, you have to sew them up/glue them up whatever it takes so they dont look torn (you cant just throw a seat cover on them because for a blue slip they should take them off and check the seats). If it came out with carpet, it must have carpet. You cant have drop shackles on it because they couldnt come factory.
OK now, having said that. If your vehicle came out with 26 inch tyres, but they COULD come out with 31 inch tyres, you can run 31's. If it COULD come out without carpet, you dont need it. If it COULD come out with cheap crap plastic door skins, you can run crap plastic door skins. now as for shackles, no you dont have to use original gear (84 shackles on an 84 vehicle) just as long as it has the same dimensions/measurements and crap. As close as possible to the STANDARD it came out as.

Post by **greg** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:09 pm

love_mud wrote:
danssurf82 wrote:dont know, my mate got defected in his tj jeep for no carpet
If there are holes etc in the carpet it is defectable, but not defectable for no carpet ...

sounds like the spare tyre rule - if you have a spare, it must be roadworthy, but you don't need to have a spare.

Post by **Turbo Tonka** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:52 pm

BEDE BEDE BEDE are you still on here typing about defects when you could be in the shed getting them ready to be cleared??? you are a discrase

Quit winging spend some $$$ and get it happening so we can all go for a wheel

Post by **zooker** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:22 pm

gadZOOKs wrote:basically, for the people who dont know: blue slips in NSW are usually difficult to get through. You have to get your vehicle back to standard . Now by standard I mean, if it came out with 26 inch tyres, you have to run 26 inch tyres. If it came out with door skins it must have door skins. If it came out with a spare, you must have a spare (it doesnt matter if u take your jack and wheel brace out or not it all has to be there and be roadworthy) tears in seats are NOT ok, you have to sew them up/glue them up whatever it takes so they dont look torn (you cant just throw a seat cover on them because for a blue slip they should take them off and check the seats). If it came out with carpet, it must have carpet. You cant have drop shackles on it because they couldnt come factory.
OK now, having said that. If your vehicle came out with 26 inch tyres, but they COULD come out with 31 inch tyres, you can run 31's. If it COULD come out without carpet, you dont need it. If it COULD come out with cheap crap plastic door skins, you can run crap plastic door skins. now as for shackles, no you dont have to use original gear (84 shackles on an 84 vehicle) just as long as it has the same dimensions/measurements and crap. As close as possible to the STANDARD it came out as.

I had mine blueslipped at the local ford dealer. They passed it with 30's and a broken rear shock-mount

I dont think they even test drove it

Post by **gadZOOKs** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:02 am

MATT MATT MATT u need to have a can of SHUT UP haha, its almost finished! I fixed my front bar, my rear bar, i made some door skins out of some white vinyl crap haha, got the rear wheel carrier on, fixed the drivers seat. AND IF YOU ANSWERED YOUR DAMN FONE i might have some sun visors

all Im waiting for is sun visors, and ive done as much as im prepared to do. so because matts no help, anybody in tamworth got any sun visors off a sierra they dont want?

Post by **wideaz** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:35 am

i just got told to visit the cop shop for them to inspect last week go figure

1.6litre
33s 10.5s
2 seater
roll bar
5 inch lift
black windows
no rear bar (waiting for my tt bar from the states)
spacers
no cat lol which i put back on real quick lol
racing seats
custom made winch mount
roof lights

lets see what i get done for

Post by **Dozoor** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:57 am

Fug em , learn the law. I get extremely irratated when being told things arent legal when they are .

Any how , heres a link

The adr section in this link is only a vauge discription of the items the perticuler adr covers.

Remember that the adr is only required if it is relavent to your vehicles
manufacture date the date of the adrs inception is shown at the top of the discription.

Although your vehicle may not be covered by a certian adr there are still basic rules pertaining to lighting sharpe edges , ect .

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/ ... _ncop.aspx

Post by **gadZOOKs** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:12 pm

mine is back on road..... took some stuffing around to hide all the dodgy stuff i have done since i bought it, but its back!!!!
ITS ALIVE

Post by **lockdup** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:06 pm

Whats the news wideaz

Post by **grimbo** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:22 pm

if this the defect you are talking about in your other thread about an engineer then you're stuffed. you have 28 days to clear a defect notice. After that the vehicle is deregistered and you have to reregister the vehicle which is a hell of a lot more complicated.

Post by **wideaz** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:49 pm

all fixed grimbo
got the RWC with flying colours
thanks

Post by **craz3d** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:06 pm

greg wrote:
love_mud wrote:
danssurf82 wrote:dont know, my mate got defected in his tj jeep for no carpet
If there are holes etc in the carpet it is defectable, but not defectable for no carpet ...
sounds like the spare tyre rule - if you have a spare, it must be roadworthy, but you don't need to have a spare.

Just say your transporting a tyre that your selling and that the easiest place to carry it is on the spare carrier

I carry a paper copy of the ADR's and RTA rules and my cars workshop book and if I get pulled over for a check and they pick on something that I know is legal/stock I pull out my books and say "prove it's illegal" and they usually just cbf finding it in the book so I get let off

If they're defecting you for it they must be able to prove to you through the right documentation that somethings illegal if you have the docs handy, otherwise they look like fools and i've noticed they get all embarrased.

Post by **danssurf82** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:23 pm

ha ha got pulled over last week by highway patrol, they said it was a random breath test, but before they gave it to me they said by the was we cant see your number plate that my tow bar/ball are covering it and it would be a $250 fine, so i said no probs i will take it off, it was dark so i asked to borrow his torch to find my shifter and they said dont worry just take it off at home... they didnt defect me for my illegal mods... lol got away again- lol

Post by **joeblow** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:29 pm

danssurf82 wrote:... they didnt defect me for my illegal mods... lol got away again- lol

mmmm....gotta love that attitude.....

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