which is better BFGoodrich or Cooper

Post by **Ruffy** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:52 am

Pro comp's or mickey t's

Post by **mike_nofx** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:41 pm

If just between BFG or STT... BFG MT for sure.

IMHO STT is not a mud terrain tyre, more just an AT.

My cruiser on BFG AT's out performed a mates Lux on STTs in mud.

Mike

Post by **-Scott-** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:06 pm

mike_nofx wrote:My cruiser on BFG AT's out performed a mates Lux on STTs in mud.

Hmmm. Just a thought, but I wonder if there were more differences than just the tyres here? Could any other factors have had an influence?

Post by **bogged** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:24 pm

-Scott- wrote:
mike_nofx wrote:My cruiser on BFG AT's out performed a mates Lux on STTs in mud.
Hmmm. Just a thought, but I wonder if there were more differences than just the tyres here? Could any other factors have had an influence?

x everything

Post by 76 » Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:27 pm

thanks guys I'm going to go with the km2 BF i have run AT BF but never run mudys.it seams that both brands have there ups and downs it just sucks that QLD is so s#%@ for tyre size.

cheers

Post by **Jeeps** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:48 pm

-Scott- wrote:
mike_nofx wrote:My cruiser on BFG AT's out performed a mates Lux on STTs in mud.
Hmmm. Just a thought, but I wonder if there were more differences than just the tyres here? Could any other factors have had an influence?

I had a ford courier with smaller BFG AT's outperform me in the jeep with larger MT/R's once at CityView. It was wet, there was an incline, a tree root, and clay/mud. I was annoyed until i realised that i was still running 35psi and he was running 20psi

Post by **bakerboy** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:30 pm

Slunnie wrote:Cooper has had more bad opinion that most though, especially in relation to tread seperation and delamination.

had a coopers st delaminate on mates patrol, sitting at 110km towing a camper trailer, farkin thing delaminted - after it had done a total of 750km of tarmac driving

Grimace POS tyre, thankfuly coopers refunded the tyre and the insurance excess to fix the damage

Post by **Slunnie** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:26 pm

My self and a couple of friends have had probs also. Anything from tread block seperation through to 2x full delamination of tyres at hwy speeds that were not under inflated - doing a lot of damage to the surrounding area. I was really pissed after having blocks start breaking off the tyre and being told that it was fine - that did my head in and Cooper replaced them pro-rata when I sent them an email asking if they are accepting liability for these tyres and the follow on results of a tyre failre - which is when they contacted me again to have them swapped out.

I was one of the first that came up with this problem AFAIK in Aus, but after later reading about others that where having the same and then worse, and likewise the litigation that was going on in the US and whistleblowing that was happening I now will not buy anything that is related to Cooper tires - so that includes Procomp, Mickey Thompson etc. even if they are made in different factories etc, there is still technology sharing etc. This said, its the tyre I don't like. Although I was pissed with the ETD Cooper rep, I would still buy a tyre from ETD, just not Cooper or related ones.

Post by **GRPABT1** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:51 pm

South wrote:Coopers hands down, BFG are for old farts that can't move on from the past, and Goodyear are for sheep!

Anyone without pedes, swampers or treps on a daily driver is an old fart :p

j/k

Post by **wholehog** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:41 pm

Goodyear are running the buy 3 get 4 deal...

Post by **Sixty's Guy** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:46 pm

wholehog wrote:Goodyear are running the buy 3 get 4 deal...

Thanks for the heads up - I priced 4 x MTR's in 315-75-16 at $1495 fitted (thats for 3, with 1 for free):? . So I checked some other local prices too - BFG KM2 $1948 - Mickey T MTZ $1600, Maxxis Bighorn $1280.

Might leave it for a bit, I didn't realise tyres in that size were so expensive.

Post by **mule75** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:43 pm

GRPABT1 wrote:
South wrote:Coopers hands down, BFG are for old farts that can't move on from the past, and Goodyear are for sheep!
Anyone without pedes, swampers or treps on a daily driver is an old fart :p

j/k

or is comfortable just driving to work without the need to impress tossers

Post by **Jeeps** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:22 am

Sixty's Guy wrote:
wholehog wrote:Goodyear are running the buy 3 get 4 deal...
Thanks for the heads up - I priced 4 x MTR's in 315-75-16 at $1495 fitted (thats for 3, with 1 for free):? . So I checked some other local prices too - BFG KM2 $1948 - Mickey T MTZ $1600, Maxxis Bighorn $1280.

Might leave it for a bit, I didn't realise tyres in that size were so expensive.

Wow that's spensive. I rang a few Goodyear places today. Most gave me almost the same 3+1 price as the non-goodyear tyre places could supply anyway. But one managed to get the price down a fair bit

Post by **j-top paj** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:27 am

Sixty's Guy wrote: BFG KM2 $1948 -.

what size were you asking for? 40s?

Post by **Sixty's Guy** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:44 am

Sixty's Guy wrote:Thanks for the heads up - I priced 4 x MTR's in 315-75-16 at $1495 fitted (thats for 3, with 1 for free):? . So I checked some other local prices too - BFG KM2 $1948 - Mickey T MTZ $1600, Maxxis Bighorn $1280.

Might leave it for a bit, I didn't realise tyres in that size were so expensive.

Post by **G_loomis** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:35 am

RN wrote:
I purchased a set of second hand Coopers ATR's for $50 each, fitted. I reckon they are hot, but who cares!

Especially for $50 each.

Naughty naughty little RN

Leigh.

Post by **bogged** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:08 am

j-top paj wrote:
Sixty's Guy wrote: BFG KM2 $1948 -.
what size were you asking for? 40s?

his post says 315-75-16 ....

That is the price some people are quoted since the price rise on 285's in some patterns. 380ea for 285's. =

for 315's .. not bad now apparently. ten again I paid $280 before price rise for my MTR's. (thank fuck I got in before Nov) but $370ish was what I was quoted at that time for 315's.
Compare that to the Q78 swampers I was quoted less sub $350 while back.

Then if thats inc rims is fawkin cheap I think..
Rims $ 480. = $120ea 16x8s
tires $ 1468 =367ea for 315's x4
$487 per tire on rim
Total $1948.

You wanna price some of the SMALL size 17inch tires dudes are quoting on patrol forum... 265's for 17in rims for round that price!

Post by **j-top paj** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:12 am

bogged wrote: tires $ 1368 =269ea

your maths doesnt ad up

Post by **bogged** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:14 am

j-top paj wrote:
bogged wrote: tires $ 1368 =269ea

your maths doesnt ad up

was 1/2 way thru when International IT manager from France walked up behind me

He asked what this Outerlimits site is all about

he is like a fart.. .just appears without warning and is up your nose

Post by **jasonw** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:52 am

i rang this morning after reading about the buy 3 get 4th for free but they hadnt heard about that deal . so i priced 265/70/17 goodyear mtr's $400 each

Post by **bogged** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:08 am

jasonw wrote:i rang this morning after reading about the buy 3 get 4th for free but they hadnt heard about that deal . so i priced 265/70/17 goodyear mtr's $400 each

cheaper to go 16inch rims dude! then next dozen times the tires will be cheaper.

Post by **jasonw** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:36 pm

bogged wrote:[cheaper to go 16inch rims dude! then next dozen times the tires will be cheaper.

love to but the brakes are too big

Post by **Sixty's Guy** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:42 pm

bogged wrote:Then if thats inc rims is fawkin cheap I think..
Rims $ 480. = $120ea 16x8s
tires $ 1468 =367ea for 315's x4
$487 per tire on rim
Total $1948.

No wheels, tyres only.

Post by **booflux** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:59 pm

I bought the same size KM2 a month ago for my spare and it cost me $480.

I have five for sale at the moment for $1800 and all I have heard is how they are only 340 ea new

Post by **Sixty's Guy** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:04 pm

booflux wrote:$1800

Mate you're dreaming. I can't beleive that you want that much for them. Will you take $1000 and you deliver them to me?

Joke

Post by **bogged** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:38 pm

Sixty's Guy wrote:
bogged wrote:Then if thats inc rims is fawkin cheap I think..
Rims $ 480. = $120ea 16x8s
tires $ 1468 =367ea for 315's x4
$487 per tire on rim
Total $1948.
No wheels, tyres only.

in that case, they will sell fuck all of em! $487 per tire? hahahhahahahhahahahahahaha

Post by **booflux** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:01 pm

Sixty's Guy wrote:
booflux wrote:$1800
Mate you're dreaming. I can't beleive that you want that much for them. Will you take $1000 and you deliver them to me?

Joke

I may be able to them delivered to you for a good price

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