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Karman Vortex AFM

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Karman Vortex AFM

Post by hudson44 »

The Air flow meter on my Paj is not reading correctly, especially at higher revs/flow. Is it possible to clean these type of AFM as it is with a hotwire type or should i just get a changeover one?
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Post by NutterGQ »

usually Throttle body/carby cleaner will do it without damaging the wires.
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Post by hudson44 »

NutterGQ wrote:usually Throttle body/carby cleaner will do it without damaging the wires.
Yeah i know how to clean it. Its just that my understanding of a Karman Vortex AFM is that it sends out a beam of light rather than a hotwire with resistance, where if the hotwire is dirty it will read incorrectly. So i guess my question is, can a Karman Vortex AFM be cleaned or is it more likely a problem with the sensor or circuitry?
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Post by NutterGQ »

dont mind me i missed a bit lol, electric contact cleaner on the 2 plates, but it may need a few hours to dry up, and their easy to fruck up.
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Post by 80's_delirious »

Dude, swap the vortex for a Hiclone.


by the look of your avitar pic you already did :rofl:
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Post by zuffen »

Experience in the 1UZ (Lexus V8) fraternity is cleaning them kills them.

Tr swapping with anohter Paj owner and see if it helps.

They are extremely reliable.

You can get a MAP to Vortex converter so you can still run the stock ECU without the KV sensor.
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Post by hudson44 »

Cheers. Gave it a clean with Contact cleaner today and put it back in and it's running a lot smoother. I've got my torque back and it also allowed me to run a few degrees more of timing without detonation. It must have been running quite lean.
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Post by NutterGQ »

glad it worked mate, and Lexus ones seem to die a lot when cleaned fruckin nightmare.
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Post by NutterGQ »

glad it worked mate, and Lexus ones seem to die a lot when cleaned fruckin nightmare.
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Post by MightyMouse »

BTW they use ultrasound to measure the air disturbance created by a baffle plate ( or plates ) in the airstream ... i.e the vortex.

As there is a relationship between the vortex created and air flow - measurement is possible.
( usual disclaimers )

It seemed like a much better idea when I started it than it does now.
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Post by hudson44 »

A few days after cleaning i had the same problem, got a 2nd hand one just to test and it ran 100%. Again after a day or 2 the surging has come back. I run an oiled finer filter. Is it possible that the oil is fouling the meter?
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Post by Jacked »

yes. to much oil on those filters = bad
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