Round 1 Engel Series 2009

[COOP]

Hey Scotty, why would anyone wanna take photo's of your car? Every time I saw it I thought it was the farmer going to get the cows! lol

[Ginger Patrol]

Dear Competitors

Please check your emails for offical notice on Engel Round 1.

[LOCKEE]

Hey Scotty, why would anyone wanna take photo's of your car? Every time I saw it I thought it was the farmer going to get the cows! lol

Coops, isn't yours a farmers ute as well? Poorer farmers have a lux over a cruiser don't they?

Well done on the tracks

[bigears]

Dear Competitors

Please check your emails for offical notice on Engel Round 1.

I got nothing in my email ?

[dwaynes]

Dear Competitors

Please check your emails for offical notice on Engel Round 1.

I got nothing in my email ?

Same here

[Meangu]

I g

[Meangu]

I got nothing either

[Ginger Patrol]

Dear all

Any competitors that have not got the email please send a PM ith you address and I will forward to you

[narnturbogq]

Paul, I have tried to access the the results on the CCDA web page and it wont work. Is there a problem with the page? If not, when will the results be available?

I hope the decision made in regards to the final stage delema is one that was fare to all competitors, as it would take the shine off what was a great event.

We are looking forward to the rest of the series, BRING IT ON !!!

[Ginger Patrol]

The Results for Round one will be posted on the CCDA web post presentation.

[Johnnie B]

ss11 got canned.......

[scotto]

Few pics from Sunday morning..

[GM]

The Results for Round one will be posted on the CCDA web post presentation.

Where do we find that???

[anorman]

www.ccda4wd.com.au

[anorman]

Pursuit 4X4
PO Box 123
Doreen VIC 3754
Phone: 0424 661 401
Fax: (03) 9717 2322
Email: engelrd1@live.com.au



Engel 4WD Challenge Series 2009


Dear Competitors,

Please be advised that the presentation for Engel 4WD Challenge Series Round 1 will be:

Date - Sunday 19th April, 2009
Time – 7:30pm for a 8:00pm Start
Venue – Club Kilsyth, Cnr Canterbury & Colchester Roads, Bayswater North, Vic, 3153
Phone – 03 9761 4233

Meal booking must be made with the Club Kilsyth if you with to dine prior to presentation.
Drinks will be available during presentation.

Regards,


Geoff Mooney
Event Director
Pursuit 4X4

[on4tou]

some photo from my stage






steve

[REVNGQ]

So who 1

[Meangu]

1ST PETE HOON AND DAVE
2ND COOPS AND HUMMER
3RD BARRY AND JIM
4TH BIDDERS AND JOE
5TH SCOTT ALISON
6TH JOSEF AND STEVE, EVIL GQ
7TH CLINT REED
8TH OVER ALL 1ST PRODUCTION SCOTT AND JAEY, MEANGU
11TH OVERALL 2ND PRODUCTION HUDDY AND ANDREW
13TH OVERALL 3RD PRODUCTION PAUL AND SCOTT, PATROLAPART

1 29 Peter Mihailoff Dave Tetley Challenge 862
2 31 Neil Cooper Chris Hummer Challenge 762
3 26 Barry Smethurst Jim Hayes Challenge 744
4 08 John Bidwell Joe Prosenak Challenge 733
5 45 Scott Alison Jason Forssman Challenge 727
6 27 Josef Ordon Steve Crawford Challenge 699
7 44 Clint Read Russell Andrews Challenge 694
8 23 Scott Smith Jaey Person Production 663
9 36 Adam O'Brien Shane Baguley Challenge 655
10 03 Alan McMullen Gavin Begbie Challenge 648
11 11 Steve Hudson Andrew Cassar Production 639
12 37 Johnnie Stavrou Paul Mackay Challenge 616
13 40 Paul Steuart Scott Gramlick Production 613

[anorman]

Competitors

Please check your emails for results from Round 1 of the Engel 4WD Challenge Series.

If you would like a copy of the results email engelrd1@live.com.au

Regards

Andrew
Pursuit 4x4

[SHAYNE]

This is interesting information posted on Mud Rhino Forum today

*********************************************************

I guess this may stir the fire?

From the ccda regs...


"MANUAL OF FWD MOTOR SPORT STANDING REGULATIONS
8 Version 9.0 20-Jan-2009

2.24 ABANDONMENT OR CANCELLATION OF A STAGE OR EVENT
An Event or a Stage of an Event may be abandoned or cancelled after commencement at the
discretion of the Event Director. (Refer to Rule 2.37) The reasons for the abandonment or
cancellation shall be communicated to the Competitors as soon as practical after the abandonment
or cancellation at a briefing called for that purpose.
Should twenty percent or more of the qualified field of Competitors have started the Event or Stage
subject to the abandonment or cancellation, and further provided that the field started in ranked
order for that Event or Stage, then the points earned by the Competitors who started the Event or
Stage shall count toward the Event result.
A qualified field shall include those Competitors who’s vehicle had passed Event Scrutineering and
who subsequently had not withdrawn or been disqualified, and whose vehicle was readied and
able to start the Event or Stage.
The balance of the qualified field of Competitors who did not start the Event or Stage before its
abandonment or cancellation shall be awarded the same score as the lowest scoring Competitor
who started the Event or Stage, except that any penalties incurred by that Competitor shall not be
applied to those Competitors who did not start.
Should less than twenty percent of the qualified field start an abandoned or cancelled Event or
Stage of an Event, or should the qualified field not start in ranked order for that Event or Stage,
then points earned by any Competitor who started that Event or Stage shall not count toward the
Event result"


marin
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[ads80]

supp regs from the event

14 ABANDONMENT OR CANCELLATION OF A STAGE OR EVENT
14.1 Rule 2.24 of the CCDA Manual for 4WD Motor Sport applies except for the number of Teams
to have completed the stage is the lesser of forty percent of the qualified field or 20 Teams.
14.2 The Event or a Stage may be abandoned or cancelled after commencement, at the discretion of
the Event Director.

[krimnl]

This is interesting information posted on Mud Rhino Forum today

*********************************************************

I guess this may stir the fire?

From the ccda regs...


"MANUAL OF FWD MOTOR SPORT STANDING REGULATIONS
8 Version 9.0 20-Jan-2009

2.24 ABANDONMENT OR CANCELLATION OF A STAGE OR EVENT
An Event or a Stage of an Event may be abandoned or cancelled after commencement at the
discretion of the Event Director. (Refer to Rule 2.37) The reasons for the abandonment or
cancellation shall be communicated to the Competitors as soon as practical after the abandonment
or cancellation at a briefing called for that purpose.
Should twenty percent or more of the qualified field of Competitors have started the Event or Stage
subject to the abandonment or cancellation, and further provided that the field started in ranked
order for that Event or Stage, then the points earned by the Competitors who started the Event or
Stage shall count toward the Event result.
A qualified field shall include those Competitors who’s vehicle had passed Event Scrutineering and
who subsequently had not withdrawn or been disqualified, and whose vehicle was readied and
able to start the Event or Stage.
The balance of the qualified field of Competitors who did not start the Event or Stage before its
abandonment or cancellation shall be awarded the same score as the lowest scoring Competitor
who started the Event or Stage, except that any penalties incurred by that Competitor shall not be
applied to those Competitors who did not start.
Should less than twenty percent of the qualified field start an abandoned or cancelled Event or
Stage of an Event, or should the qualified field not start in ranked order for that Event or Stage,
then points earned by any Competitor who started that Event or Stage shall not count toward the
Event result"


marin
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doesn't stir anything up..... we knew what the CCDA regs say BUT
read the event supp regs . they clearly say that the stages would be cancelled at 2pm. Geoff exended this time to 2.30 due to we conditions.

I think this should be put to rest now.

[Big Pootrol]

good call krim, all the winging in the world aint gunna let them do 11 again. lets just worry about rd 2 and try and make it another sweet event.

[3.8BUNDY]

This is interesting information posted on Mud Rhino Forum today

*********************************************************

I guess this may stir the fire?

From the ccda regs...


"MANUAL OF FWD MOTOR SPORT STANDING REGULATIONS
8 Version 9.0 20-Jan-2009

2.24 ABANDONMENT OR CANCELLATION OF A STAGE OR EVENT
An Event or a Stage of an Event may be abandoned or cancelled after commencement at the
discretion of the Event Director. (Refer to Rule 2.37) The reasons for the abandonment or
cancellation shall be communicated to the Competitors as soon as practical after the abandonment
or cancellation at a briefing called for that purpose.
Should twenty percent or more of the qualified field of Competitors have started the Event or Stage
subject to the abandonment or cancellation, and further provided that the field started in ranked
order for that Event or Stage, then the points earned by the Competitors who started the Event or
Stage shall count toward the Event result.
A qualified field shall include those Competitors who’s vehicle had passed Event Scrutineering and
who subsequently had not withdrawn or been disqualified, and whose vehicle was readied and
able to start the Event or Stage.
The balance of the qualified field of Competitors who did not start the Event or Stage before its
abandonment or cancellation shall be awarded the same score as the lowest scoring Competitor
who started the Event or Stage, except that any penalties incurred by that Competitor shall not be
applied to those Competitors who did not start.
Should less than twenty percent of the qualified field start an abandoned or cancelled Event or
Stage of an Event, or should the qualified field not start in ranked order for that Event or Stage,
then points earned by any Competitor who started that Event or Stage shall not count toward the
Event result"


marin
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This rule sux.

So in a CCDA event say 100 cars

1 or more drive the 100
1 doesn't make it to the 10
Event Cancelled after 22 start
according to above rule
other 78 get 0 points(through no fault of their own)

Commenting on rule only

[marin]

This rule sux.

So in a CCDA event say 100 cars

1 or more drive the 100
1 doesn't make it to the 10
Event Cancelled after 22 start
according to above rule
other 78 get 0 points(through no fault of their own)

Commenting on rule only

If that 1 car doesn't make it to the 10, then they get a DNF don't they, and the non competing competitors will get their score from the lowest ACTUAL SCORE (if that 1 car got 0 they haven't scored, have they now?)

The rule works fine.

marin

[3.8BUNDY]

This rule sux.

So in a CCDA event say 100 cars

1 or more drive the 100
1 doesn't make it to the 10
Event Cancelled after 22 start
according to above rule
other 78 get 0 points(through no fault of their own)

Commenting on rule only

If that 1 car doesn't make it to the 10, then they get a DNF don't they, and the non competing competitors will get their score from the lowest ACTUAL SCORE (if that 1 car got 0 they haven't scored, have they now?)

The rule works fine.

marin

Marin
With your "don't they" and your "have they now"s you sound a bit arrogant, I could be wrong (apparently I have been before, Oh excuse my arrogance).
Winch rules must be different to non winch comps. You earn 0 you score 0.
What if you get to the 10 point mark, do you get 10 point? (SERIOUS QUESTION)
If yes it still sux as it is hard to catch up 90 points in a tight comp.
OR
Have I missed something altogether and the above rule applies to WINCH comps only and not all CCDA events.

[Ginger Patrol]

Dear All

Rest assured the CCDA know all it's rules and the decision was taken in light of all the available information and working through with the event director.

If anyone has any question regarding this please feel free to send an email to the CCDA or PM me and I am happy to discuss. I do not think that a long debate on forums helps anyone. It just creates more confussion and frustration.

It was a great event and lets move forward and not backwards.

[marin]

Marin
With your "don't they" and your "have they now"s you sound a bit arrogant, I could be wrong (apparently I have been before, Oh excuse my arrogance).
Winch rules must be different to non winch comps. You earn 0 you score 0.
What if you get to the 10 point mark, do you get 10 point? (SERIOUS QUESTION)
If yes it still sux as it is hard to catch up 90 points in a tight comp.
OR
Have I missed something altogether and the above rule applies to WINCH comps only and not all CCDA events.

Sorry about the wording, wasn't meaning it like that at all, wrong choice of words.

Continued via PM.

marin

[3.8BUNDY]

Marin
With your "don't they" and your "have they now"s you sound a bit arrogant, I could be wrong (apparently I have been before, Oh excuse my arrogance).
Winch rules must be different to non winch comps. You earn 0 you score 0.
What if you get to the 10 point mark, do you get 10 point? (SERIOUS QUESTION)
If yes it still sux as it is hard to catch up 90 points in a tight comp.
OR
Have I missed something altogether and the above rule applies to WINCH comps only and not all CCDA events.

Sorry about the wording, wasn't meaning it like that at all, wrong choice of words.

Continued via PM.

marin

No probs, THANKS

[MudRhino]

I am desperately trying to track down the owner of a mini DV cassette sent to me, featuring incab footage on 2 stages (ss3 and ss8). The vehicle sounds like a V8 and is orange/red.

Can who ever sent me the DVD please contact me!

Thanks!

Evan