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My first 4WD

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My first 4WD

Post by Bastler »

Hey all I have always been rather involved in camping and 4WDing. However I have never owned my own vehicle. I'm just about 21 and am about to buy my first zook.

I want to buy a stock standard car and do it up myself and what I cant do pay for it to be done.

Now to the point of the thread what would be the first thing you would do to a stock zook to make it a worth while off road machine. My first thoughts were to lift it and put some 31's on it or something like that. But what are everyone else's thoughts. What kind of lift what size/brand/type of tires.

For the second part. What sort of price should I be looking at to pay for a good condition stock zook. Keeping in mind I live in Australia.

Thanks all eagerly waiting replies :)
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Post by alien »

the first thing you should do is drive it... just drive it everywhere for like, 3 months at least. once you've mastered driving it stock in all conditions you'll know what needs doing next based on the tracks you're doing and how much road/offroad you do etc.
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Post by St Jimmy »

Just buy one, and learn to drive it. Zooks are not like anything you have driven before, Learn to drive it first,then modify it if you want.If you want to put anything in put a rollbar in first.
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Post by Bastler »

alien wrote:the first thing you should do is drive it... just drive it everywhere for like, 3 months at least. once you've mastered driving it stock in all conditions you'll know what needs doing next based on the tracks you're doing and how much road/offroad you do etc.
Thanks for the reply. The car is being bought purely as a 4WD any driving it does will be to camp sites and tracks. I have also got plenty of experience 4WDing.

With that in mind would you recommend doing some easier tracks in a stock zook to work out what needs to be done?

Please can others post I still want lots of opinions.
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Post by Highway-Star »

First mod = comfortable seats.

I am being serious, its something you will appreciate everytime you use your car. If your worried about keeping it legal these will need a mod plate, but as long as they are installed soundly, this wont be hard to get.
You ask what will make a zook a worthwhile offroad machine, they are this standard; some mods can just make them more so.

Good condition stock zook, too broad a question. Do you want a Sierra, Vitara, Jimny, Grand Vitara, LJ........? and each of these have different variations as well.
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Post by Bastler »

Highway-Star wrote:First mod = comfortable seats.

I am being serious, its something you will appreciate everytime you use your car. If your worried about keeping it legal these will need a mod plate, but as long as they are installed soundly, this wont be hard to get.
You ask what will make a zook a worthwhile offroad machine, they are this standard; some mods can just make them more so.

Good condition stock zook, too broad a question. Do you want a Sierra, Vitara, Jimny, Grand Vitara, LJ........? and each of these have different variations as well.
Cheers thanks for the reply. I have always been told that the Sierras are the way to go (tough as nails and are easy to mod + they are rather cheap) I was thinking a 1988 - 1994 models. I have been told that later have coils and that makes it a little harder to mod. Cheers
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Post by Highway-Star »

Bastler wrote:Cheers thanks for the reply. I have always been told that the Sierras are the way to go (tough as nails and are easy to mod + they are rather cheap) I was thinking a 1988 - 1994 models. I have been told that later have coils and that makes it a little harder to mod. Cheers
So that would likely be a Short wheel base Wide Track Sierra then (sold from late '88 to early '96).
A good standard one should be able to be had for around $3000.
Do not expect show room condition of course, just a sound vehicle.
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Post by Pezooki »

Hey Bastler.

Welcome to Outers! You will have more fun with a zook than I can tell you!

I am with everyone else when they say "get out there and drive it first". The list of modifications that you will end up doing WILL make more sense to you if you understand how a zook behaves BEFORE you modify it.

Once you have done that, I would highly recommend having a read of this:

http://vic.suzuki4wd.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=385

My Zook ended up very similar to what is in that guide. Have a look at some build-up threads in the members section too, it might give you some ideas! Here is mine:

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/ftopic169128.php

Cheers,

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Post by Bastler »

Highway-Star wrote:
Bastler wrote:Cheers thanks for the reply. I have always been told that the Sierras are the way to go (tough as nails and are easy to mod + they are rather cheap) I was thinking a 1988 - 1994 models. I have been told that later have coils and that makes it a little harder to mod. Cheers
So that would likely be a Short wheel base Wide Track Sierra then (sold from late '88 to early '96).
A good standard one should be able to be had for around $3000.
Do not expect show room condition of course, just a sound vehicle.
Yup I want a SWB (i like the way they look :)) Yeh im not looking for anything waxed up with pretty paint. I just want it in good mechanical condition. I want to do all the mods myself gives me a sense of it being my car and will make successful 4WDing more satisfying.
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Post by Bastler »

Pezooki wrote:Hey Bastler.

Welcome to Outers! You will have more fun with a zook than I can tell you!

I am with everyone else when they say "get out there and drive it first". The list of modifications that you will end up doing WILL make more sense to you if you understand how a zook behaves BEFORE you modify it.

Once you have done that, I would highly recommend having a read of this:

http://vic.suzuki4wd.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=385

My Zook ended up very similar to what is in that guide. Have a look at some build-up threads in the members section too, it might give you some ideas! Here is mine:

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/ftopic169128.php

Cheers,

Pez
Thanks mate very useful info there. I will have a good read through it. Looks as if im going to have to wait and learn about the zook first.

However I would like to know for mostly rock tracks what would be best in terms of size of tires type of tires and what kind of lift would be best?

Cheers. BTW my name is Matthew.
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