its like the people with +5" lifts who just go and do beachwork.BowTieGQ wrote:Good point Yom. Also Shane, why aren't there flexy coils for the front? Wouldn't they be a good match for the flex arm? Or am I jumping the gun and you have things in the pipeline?
Hmmm very interesting quote about flex !!! I am not sure but I always thought if you could keep the wheels on the ground you would get more traction and keep the vehicle more stable but I could be wrong. But here are a couple of pics of the guys I was wheeling with. The red 60 series nearly went over this is the same place the gu flexed through . the other one is a gq two inch lift front wheel in air no traction ??? But please correct me if i am wrong if the increased flex is just to look cool.Yom wrote:its like the people with +5" lifts who just go and do beachwork.BowTieGQ wrote:Good point Yom. Also Shane, why aren't there flexy coils for the front? Wouldn't they be a good match for the flex arm? Or am I jumping the gun and you have things in the pipeline?
im pretty sure flex is like lift. apparently the more you have the cooler you must be, even if it doesn't make it go any better.
It depends on the situation. I ran dropout cones on my first Safari so I could run long shocks, but could get no further than I could with shorter shocks. As soon as I was at the point where the coil was moving away from the chassis, there was no downward pressure on that wheel, so having the extra travel did SFA apart from look impressive. Of course, it didn't look quite as good when you still couldn't drive though anyway and it felt less stable on sidlings.*cruiser* wrote:
Hmmm very interesting quote about flex !!! I am not sure but I always thought if you could keep the wheels on the ground you would get more traction and keep the vehicle more stable
Took the words straight out of my keyboard.KIWI wrote:
It depends on the situation. I ran dropout cones on my first Safari so I could run long shocks, but could get no further than I could with shorter shocks. As soon as I was at the point where the coil was moving away from the chassis, there was no downward pressure on that wheel, so having the extra travel did SFA apart from look impressive. Of course, it didn't look quite as good when you still couldn't drive though anyway and it felt less stable on sidlings.
Of course, the flex coils should still provide some downward pressure, so will have to look at a set when we are over on holiday next.
May go heavier duty though so I can get the flex arms working at their best.
Kiwi, For sure have a look at the coils when you are over next. Give Shane from suspension stuff a call he is very helpful !!!Yom wrote:Took the words straight out of my keyboard.KIWI wrote:
It depends on the situation. I ran dropout cones on my first Safari so I could run long shocks, but could get no further than I could with shorter shocks. As soon as I was at the point where the coil was moving away from the chassis, there was no downward pressure on that wheel, so having the extra travel did SFA apart from look impressive. Of course, it didn't look quite as good when you still couldn't drive though anyway and it felt less stable on sidlings.
Of course, the flex coils should still provide some downward pressure, so will have to look at a set when we are over on holiday next.
May go heavier duty though so I can get the flex arms working at their best.
As soon as your coils leave the chassis the articulation isn't doing you any major favours.
heaps of downtravel is also useless if you have no uptravel.
GQ's lift front wheels because the suspension doesnt work unless there's weight on it. Going uphill even slightly under acceleration = weight shift to the rear meaning front wheels go airborne.
Yom wrote:uptravel is only changed if you lengthen your bump stop or your shock is so long that it acts as the bumpstop so if you haven't done anything there then uptravel should remain standard.
Don't doubt the drop out cones don't work - they have a purpose and they do as intended. Definately not questioning the performance of the flexy coils either, as they obviously do as intended as well.
I'm simply questioning whether that extra wheel travel you're getting with the coil flopping around on the dropout cone is really worth it. There is really only one way to test this and that is to limit axle travel with some straps right before the extending coil starts to come away from the chassis and see if you can still drive where you were driving beforehand. This is the sort of dopey thing I'd do on a weekend if it were my vehicle just to experiment - I can understand if you can't be bothered.
The heavy duty rear flexy coils are designed to carry 200kg +. The load carrying ability is usually the same as normal coils for most flexy coils but sometimes I do make a flexy coils slightly softer.SilverBulletBM wrote:What are the flexi coils like with towing heavyish loads, like car trailers, motorbikes and camping gear etc. How do they handle on the road? I guessin you still run swaybars but with quick disconnects, but what bout the ppl with the superior super flex front arm?
Yes, obviously it will sit down a bit in the rear while the boat is on the back.macey wrote:Would the flexy coils be ok if you mainly used your 4wd for 4wding but occasionally esp in summer months tow a boat, roughly 1300kg on tandem trailer?
Yom wrote:I'm simply questioning whether that extra wheel travel you're getting with the coil flopping around on the dropout cone is really worth it. There is really only one way to test this and that is to limit axle travel with some straps right before the extending coil starts to come away from the chassis and see if you can still drive where you were driving beforehand. This is the sort of dopey thing I'd do on a weekend if it were my vehicle just to experiment - I can understand if you can't be bothered.
Suspension Stuff wrote:
With all the kits I have found that increasing the bump stops have not reduced flex
Shane
I know where you are coming from but I stand by my statement and I do mean it literally because you are only increasing the bump stops to the compressed length of the shock and the longer the shocks you have the more travel you get. (To a point of course)steel wrote:Suspension Stuff wrote:
With all the kits I have found that increasing the bump stops have not reduced flex
Shane
Its a worry when someone in your position makes a statement that is so clearly false.
I know its probably just worded incorrectly, but people on this forum can tend to take advice quite literally, especially from someone in the trade.
For accuracy, do you have a winch? Do you have drawers, LPG, full rear bar or frequently tow heavy weights?KIWI wrote:Ah, I didn't think there was a front flexy coil.
Any idea on weight of a set of 4" flexy coils/shocks? Over in a few weeks on holiday, so time for more goodies
Got Pics? I will have to include this as one of the advantages.lewie wrote:Flexy coils dont only give you good travel without falling out of your truck but they also catch fish, i got me one in the rear drivers side coil on the wknd at glasshouse
Hi shane, Would +16mm longer rear lower control arms bring my diff back into line in a gu patrol to suit a 4inch lift?????Suspension Stuff wrote:Haha, you won't notice any more flex if you don't get longer shocks.grinch2 wrote:i didn't noticed any extra flex, the only advantage is the coils dont fall out as easy.Yom wrote:does that extra flex actually get you any further though?
i mean, your front moves no better than stock. kind of defies the point of upgrading the suspension if you only focus on the rear. may as well get an IFS vehicle and have the same articulation but more comfort.
not trying to offend you just puting it up for discussion
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