wheel still wobbling after wheel bearing tightened.

Post by **351ciofgrunt** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:36 am

Front left wheel on my GQ has play in it, after tightening up the wheel bearings the wheel still has some play in it, not as much as before but still there.

What do you think is causing this? I dont believe it is a wheel bearing issue. I think something else is worn.

Post by **mkpatrol** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:44 am

Is the stub axle worn?

Is the hub worn where the outer race is supposed to be an inteference fit?

Post by **351ciofgrunt** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:30 am

hmmm... okay i think this might be beyond my mechanical knowledge, might have to book it in at the diff shop.

Post by **coxy321** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:37 pm

If its not the wheel bearings (which have clearly just been done), then it will be the swivel hub - either worn bearings/pins. Most likely bearings if they havent been replaced for more than 2-3 years.

Post by **in24bn** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:26 pm

while you are rocking the tyre up and down . if there is still movent there check behind the wheel and see if the play that you are having isnt the top or bottom swivel hub bearings eg kign pins . that might be the movent you are having . if so remove the metal shim and tighten back up . just a thought

Post by **twodiffs** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:35 pm

Got the same thing myself, i've tightened up the wheel bearings and still have some play. I removed shims from the swivel hub bearings (kingpins)
and still a bit loose so time for new kingpin bearings.

Post by **love ke70** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:33 pm

just drive it...does it really affect your driving?
my wheel bearings were finger tight for christ knows how long, til i repacked them, difference is i get mroe bumpsteer now

Post by **money_killer** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:16 pm

love ke70 wrote:just drive it...does it really affect your driving?
my wheel bearings were finger tight for christ knows how long, til i repacked them, difference is i get mroe bumpsteer now

safety may have something to do with it. i know my car i cant drive over 60ks on the road. wobbles are way tooo bad

Post by **love ke70** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:30 pm

thats why i was asking if it really affected the driving experience, some people just notice these things and get them in their head they need fixing, when really you fix it and hte on road difference will be negligible...

Post by **351ciofgrunt** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:38 am

love ke70 wrote:thats why i was asking if it really affected the driving experience, some people just notice these things and get them in their head they need fixing, when really you fix it and hte on road difference will be negligible...

Yes it is affecting my driving experience, because i can't drive over 80km/hr, the vibrations are so bad. And yes I have done everything else, wheel alignment, wheel balance, front and rear panhard bushes, rotated the diff pinion forward with lower rear control arms 15mm longer, front dropboxes, swopped in different rear drive shaft, etc etc

So i'm pretty sure now that it is my king pins causing the problem, as per the posts above.

Post by **macneil** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:40 am

how did you tighten your wheel bearings? you said there was a little less play in a issue of 4x4 action they showed how to do a wheel bearing on a 4by.. ie tighten it bolt the wheel back on hit it with a sledge hammer and bang it was loose again you have to re tighten it .. after the second re tightening it was all good.. could that be your problem?

Post by **canuck** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:08 am

Maybe you just knocked off a tire weight and you wheel is out of balance. On mine it was this and a slight bend I put on a steel LC rim which resulted in the 80 km/hr shakes. That rim now has a load of lead on it to put it in balance until I clean up another spare rim and paint it. However, my shakes are gone.

Post by **351ciofgrunt** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:04 am

canuck wrote:Maybe you just knocked off a tire weight and you wheel is out of balance. On mine it was this and a slight bend I put on a steel LC rim which resulted in the 80 km/hr shakes. That rim now has a load of lead on it to put it in balance until I clean up another spare rim and paint it. However, my shakes are gone.

As i said earlier, I've balanced all my wheels

Post by **351ciofgrunt** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:05 am

macneil wrote:how did you tighten your wheel bearings? you said there was a little less play in a issue of 4x4 action they showed how to do a wheel bearing on a 4by.. ie tighten it bolt the wheel back on hit it with a sledge hammer and bang it was loose again you have to re tighten it .. after the second re tightening it was all good.. could that be your problem?

Thanks but I know how to tighten wheel bearings.

Post by **zookboy** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:14 am

hey mate its just a patrol thing yet to see one that doesnt wobble

Post by **stormpatrol** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:04 pm

my gq dont WOBBLE get it fixed mate wobbles are no good

Post by **coxy321** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:00 pm

Mine doesn't wobble either! Just another jealous zook owner i spose ......

Post by **JAFO74** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:05 pm

stormpatrol wrote:my gq dont WOBBLE get it fixed mate wobbles are no good

Yep I am going with either the king pin bearings, if after the shims are removed you might need to replace the bearings, either that or I had a similar shake a different time(after doing the kins pins) and it turned out to be the control arm bushes but as you said you have installed drop boxes so I would imagine that you either renewed the bushes or gave them a good looking at while re-installing. Hope that you find it cause shakes or shudders annoy the crap oout ya!

Post by **albundy** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:42 pm

This happened to me, couldn't work it out. Hub destroyed itself in the bush. Turned out the lock nut had been crossed threaded and causing the smallest amount of play. Still was enoung for the whole lot to wear out and let go. Fix it, you may need to replace the spindle and locking nut. They shouldn't wobble.

Post by **351ciofgrunt** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:41 am

I ended up removing some of the shims and problem is now fixed, no more gq shakes!!

Thanks to those of you who gave helpful advice.

cheers

Post by **in24bn** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:48 am

if you still have your wobble check your tie rod ends as well .if they have some movement in them you will get a shake up as well

Post by **stormpatrol** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:03 pm

351ciofgrunt wrote:I ended up removing some of the shims and problem is now fixed, no more gq shakes!!

Thanks to those of you who gave helpful advice.

cheers

mate did you remove the same top and bottom , shims that is , if not you need to cheers stormpatrol

Post by **IN24BZ** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:49 am

as just about every post here said , more preload on your knuckle bearings by removing a shim or 2 , there is a procedure for doing this in a manual

Post by **stormpatrol** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:21 am

IN24BZ wrote:as just about every post here said , more preload on your knuckle bearings by removing a shim or 2 , there is a procedure for doing this in a manual

yes thats right , wont be to long before a front end rebuild ? cant hurt

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