Notice: We request that you don't just set up a new account at this time if you are a previous user.
If you used to be one of our moderators, please feel free to reach out to Chris via the facebook Outerlimits4x4 group and he will get you set back up with access should he need you.
Recovery:If you cannot access your old email address and don't remember your password, please click here to log a change of email address so you can do a password reset.

Vit motor expert Plz

Tech Talk for Suzuki owners.

Moderators: lay80n, sierrajim

Forum rules
Post Reply
Posts: 105
Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:22 am
Location: Bris, Qld

Vit motor expert Plz

Post by Hutch »

After having a look around my new project (SJ50), and taking it for a bit of a drive the motor is spluttering a bit.
I have a few questions... but first some details.

It has a G1.6B motor block.
It also apprently has a 1.3 sieera carby on it, which I assume is the problem with it spluttering.
When the motor gets warmed up it sends out light smoke out the exhuast, I assume it is to do with the carby.
Suzisport Lawton performed the work on it about 3000kms ago according to the reciepts.
I have another carby here which looks different to the 1.3. It could be a vitara. The carby has a throttle possition sensor on it. See pics.

Ok now for the questions.
a) Is this motor a vitara motor?
b) Is the G16B motor ideal for an EFI conversion?
c) Does it have the Vitara head on it?
d) What is the Carby (pictured)?
e) Can that Carby bolt stratight onto the motor I have?
f) Is that carby suitable for an EFI conversion?
What else needs to be done for EFI conversion. eg Computer/injection setup etc?

Any help greatly appreciated
Pics
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Cheers
Hutch
Here is a test to find whether your mission on earth is finished: If you’re alive it isn’t.
- Richard Bach
Top
Posts: 2169
Joined: Fri Jun 16, 2006 4:41 pm
Location: melbourne

Post by joeblow »

what appears to be on the car is not a sierra carby, and what you have in you're hands is a vitara carby which is the ideal carby to run if not running efi.
lwb 1.6efi,4sp auto,f&r airlockers,dual t/cases.custom coils.builder of ROAD LEGAL custom suzukis...and other stuff.
CAD modelling-TECH drawings-DXF preparation.
http://www.auszookers.com/index.php
Top
Posts: 319
Joined: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:21 pm
Location: Canberra

Post by Toecutta »

Yea the whole thing looks vit to me
LWB Vit, Trail Slayer
Top
Posts: 445
Joined: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:54 pm
Location: Perth

Post by PCRman »

Toecutta wrote:Yea the whole thing looks vit to me
I was under the impression that 8V carby 1.6's were G16A while 16V EFI 1.6's were G16B. I guess that its a 16V block thats had a 8V head put on. maybe a reco at some point and any available block has been used,

For an EFI conversion (MPFI anyway) you will need to swap to a 16V head that has the injector cut-outs.

Otherwise look for a TBI setup to put on.

re- your Q(f) carb goes byebye for any efi conversion anyway.
Top
Posts: 105
Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:22 am
Location: Bris, Qld

Post by Hutch »

Got the low down on it today from Graham at Suzi-Auto at springwood Qld.
Its a G16B block, 1.3 head and 1.3 Carb, good combo apparently. The carb I am holding is a VIT one, no good for me so it will find its way up for sale soon.
cheers for the replies guys.
Here is a test to find whether your mission on earth is finished: If you’re alive it isn’t.
- Richard Bach
Top
Posts: 6
Joined: Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:46 pm
Location: gold coast

Post by napper »

by any chance do u guys know if the vitara carby gives better proformance on the 1.6 8v engine then the sierra carby???
Top
Posts: 2169
Joined: Fri Jun 16, 2006 4:41 pm
Location: melbourne

Post by joeblow »

napper wrote:by any chance do u guys know if the vitara carby gives better proformance on the 1.6 8v engine then the sierra carby???

yep!
lwb 1.6efi,4sp auto,f&r airlockers,dual t/cases.custom coils.builder of ROAD LEGAL custom suzukis...and other stuff.
CAD modelling-TECH drawings-DXF preparation.
http://www.auszookers.com/index.php
Top
Posts: 27
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:57 pm
Location: Australia

Post by zookeenie »

automotive design engineers get paid alot of money to work this stuff out,if its a 1.6 8v head off a vitara,then i would imagine that the most suitable carby for power and fuel economy would be "HOLD BREATH" the standard vit carby,which just happens to be the very same one you have in your hot little hand!! You will get a bit more power out of a webber or similar,as long as you stick to the tar,they are crap off road without major mods.
I have an injection manifold from a g16b but no headfor it to go on,this is completly differant from the g16a config,inlet ports are a different shape..
sierras....There Boxy But There Good
Slow....4Low.....And Up We Go!
Top
Posts: 2169
Joined: Fri Jun 16, 2006 4:41 pm
Location: melbourne

Post by joeblow »

Hutch wrote:Got the low down on it today from Graham at Suzi-Auto at springwood Qld.
Its a G16B block, 1.3 head and 1.3 Carb, good combo apparently. The carb I am holding is a VIT one, no good for me so it will find its way up for sale soon.
cheers for the replies guys.
why is the vit one no good for you?
lwb 1.6efi,4sp auto,f&r airlockers,dual t/cases.custom coils.builder of ROAD LEGAL custom suzukis...and other stuff.
CAD modelling-TECH drawings-DXF preparation.
http://www.auszookers.com/index.php
Top
Posts: 1325
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:13 pm
Location: brisbane australia..logan reserve

Post by 11_evl »

cus graham said so!!!
michael
Top
User avatar
Guy
Posts: 10366
Joined: Thu Dec 12, 2002 8:43 am
Location: Wangaratta

Post by Guy »

joeblow wrote:
Hutch wrote:Got the low down on it today from Graham at Suzi-Auto at springwood Qld.
Its a G16B block, 1.3 head and 1.3 Carb, good combo apparently. The carb I am holding is a VIT one, no good for me so it will find its way up for sale soon.
cheers for the replies guys.
why is the vit one no good for you?
Possibbly becuase of a person who doesnt want to mes with the loom to get it to work with the vit carb ?
" If governments are involved in the covering up the knowledge of aliens, Then they are doing a much better job of it than they do of everything else "
Top
Posts: 2169
Joined: Fri Jun 16, 2006 4:41 pm
Location: melbourne

Post by joeblow »

love_mud wrote:
joeblow wrote:
Hutch wrote:Got the low down on it today from Graham at Suzi-Auto at springwood Qld.
Its a G16B block, 1.3 head and 1.3 Carb, good combo apparently. The carb I am holding is a VIT one, no good for me so it will find its way up for sale soon.
cheers for the replies guys.
why is the vit one no good for you?
Possibbly becuase of a person who doesnt want to mes with the loom to get it to work with the vit carb ?
too true.......3 wires.....very techamical ;)
lwb 1.6efi,4sp auto,f&r airlockers,dual t/cases.custom coils.builder of ROAD LEGAL custom suzukis...and other stuff.
CAD modelling-TECH drawings-DXF preparation.
http://www.auszookers.com/index.php
Top
User avatar
Guy
Posts: 10366
Joined: Thu Dec 12, 2002 8:43 am
Location: Wangaratta

Post by Guy »

joeblow wrote:
love_mud wrote:
joeblow wrote:
Hutch wrote:Got the low down on it today from Graham at Suzi-Auto at springwood Qld.
Its a G16B block, 1.3 head and 1.3 Carb, good combo apparently. The carb I am holding is a VIT one, no good for me so it will find its way up for sale soon.
cheers for the replies guys.
why is the vit one no good for you?
Possibbly becuase of a person who doesnt want to mes with the loom to get it to work with the vit carb ?
too true.......3 wires.....very techamical ;)
For wireing dyslexic that can be a real headcase ...

Honestly dunno why you wouldn't do it .. but some people will use ANY reason.
" If governments are involved in the covering up the knowledge of aliens, Then they are doing a much better job of it than they do of everything else "
Top
Posts: 105
Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:22 am
Location: Bris, Qld

Post by Hutch »

Whats the easiest way to tell if I have the 1.6 head or 1.3 head? I believed I had the 1.3 head. Should I pull the rocker cover off? what will I be looking for?
cheers
Oh and yer I will have a go at the wiring the vit one in if I do actually have a Vit head :finger:
Here is a test to find whether your mission on earth is finished: If you’re alive it isn’t.
- Richard Bach
Top
User avatar
Guy
Posts: 10366
Joined: Thu Dec 12, 2002 8:43 am
Location: Wangaratta

Post by Guy »

Hutch wrote:Whats the easiest way to tell if I have the 1.6 head or 1.3 head? I believed I had the 1.3 head. Should I pull the rocker cover off? what will I be looking for?
cheers
Oh and yer I will have a go at the wiring the vit one in if I do actually have a Vit head :finger:
I ran a 1.3 head on a 1.6 block with a 1.3 manifold and 1.6 carb ...
The head was my spare I had rebuilt, I had the mainfold and head port matched, I kept the 1.6 carb for it's better offroad manners and it was recently rebuilt with a new choke.

It all bolts up.
" If governments are involved in the covering up the knowledge of aliens, Then they are doing a much better job of it than they do of everything else "
Top
Post Reply

Return to “Suzuki”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 62 guests