short wheel base GQ

Post by **suttygu** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:58 am

just want to know what the go is with lifting a shorty 3 inch or 4 inch.. what needs to be done.. high pinion in rear space gearbox crossmember double cardinal shafts??? can some one help

Post by **suttygu** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:00 am

how hi can you go without doing anything

Post by **jessie928** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:14 am

suttygu wrote:how hi can you go without doing anything

3", BUT you will stil have to space the crossmember.

Jes

Post by **coxy321** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:19 am

suttygu wrote:how hi can you go without doing anything

2" Safely.
3" is where the mods will need to start.
Any bigger and you'll be looking at $$$ for a properly set up lift.

Post by **Quadcamshorty** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:34 am

dont go over 3 inch - no real point and can be a real headache!

Post by **bogged** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:58 am

Quadcamshorty wrote:dont go over 3 inch - no real point and can be a real headache!

what he said...

Post by **suttygu** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:02 pm

dont go over 3 inch - no real point and can be a real headache!

thanks quadcam so do you need to do any mods for 3 inch?

Post by **suttygu** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:04 pm

so say i went 3 inch in front and 2 and a half in rear with gearbox spacer would be fine? also how much do you space crossmember??

Post by **chimpboy** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:08 pm

You will need longer or adjustable panhards at 3" too. And castor correction of course.

Post by **suttygu** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:13 pm

yeah have panhards and castor and spacers for front arms and longer lower trailing arms

Post by **bogged** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:19 pm

What is your objective? Looks or practicality?
Some people still fit a 6inch lift and run 33's for 'looks', practical as shit really

Post by **suttygu** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:29 pm

mate my objective is low with as possible with 36s.. car has winch arb bar 3 batterys long range tank rear bar and stuff so want to set it up to handle weight and not drag its ass..

Post by **bogged** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:38 pm

suttygu wrote:mate my objective is low with as possible with 36s.. car has winch arb bar 3 batterys long range tank rear bar and stuff so want to set it up to handle weight and not drag its ass..

Then you get heavier rate springs.

Sim79 will nodoubt have his 38's with 2inch lift photos available for posting soon. and 37's with same.
Small lift, and guard trim is your best option.

Post by **jessie928** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:42 pm

suttygu wrote:mate my objective is low with as possible with 36s.. car has winch arb bar 3 batterys long range tank rear bar and stuff so want to set it up to handle weight and not drag its ass..

2" plus guard cuttting will give you enough for 36's

my shorty is currently sitting on 2" spring + 2" body for 37's
i bash the crap out of the chassis over the terrain i normally drive but it gets the job done and the patrol chassis can take some abuuuuuuuuuuse

Jes

Post by **suttygu** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:46 pm

yeah i didnt want to go to heavy rate spring then it rides like s*it and still want some flex so just looking at the best way to do it.. yeah i have 2 inch lift ute with 37s on it.

Post by **suttygu** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:49 pm

jes have you spaced crossmember with 2 inch lift??

Post by **jessie928** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:59 pm

suttygu wrote:jes have you spaced crossmember with 2 inch lift??

yeah only because
a: i have spacers lying around anyway
b: helps hide vibes when the uni's need to be replaced

Jes

Post by **suttygu** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:26 pm

kool as man thanks.. have you trimmed your gaurds at all with 37s

Post by **jessie928** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:39 pm

suttygu wrote:kool as man thanks.. have you trimmed your gaurds at all with 37s

yes, nip and tucked.
Jes

Post by **mkpatrol** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:55 pm

bogged wrote:What is your objective? Looks or practicality?
Some people still fit a 6inch lift and run 33's for 'looks', practical as shit really

I saw a GU like this yesterday, it had 7.50x16's on it.

Post by **suttygu** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:15 pm

yeah kool well ill see how i go

Post by **twodiffs** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:40 pm

suttygu wrote:yeah i didnt want to go to heavy rate spring then it rides like s*it and still want some flex so just looking at the best way to do it.. yeah i have 2 inch lift ute with 37s on it.

I'd have to disagree wth that, I have heavy duty Dobinsons and i put in Procomp shocks to allow for the heavier coil, rides sweet and have flex!

Post by **nastytroll** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:01 pm

can"t have flex on 2" lift, how long a shock are you going to fit? If its an off the shelf kit you are limited for shock space anyway.

HD springs are fine, extra HD are too stiff.

The swb will be very capable twin locked running 35"+ tyres and 2" lift. Lift for ground clearence though.

No lift with big tyres is all wank, you don't diff out but get hung up. Lift does add stability in harsh conditions, not speed but big holes, rocks and ledges.

Lift in moderation.

Post by **Quadcamshorty** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:06 pm

give shane from suspension stuff a call for the parts.

great to deal with, and good prices.

Post by **ziggy_170** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:33 pm

I've got a 3 inch lift in my shorty. Lovell coils and shocks. 16mm longer lower arms, drop boxes (they spaced the gearbox enough). no panhards. no vibration handles well on and off road. only 32" bighorns to keep it reasonably legal though..

Post by **chimpboy** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:53 pm

Quadcamshorty wrote:give shane from suspension stuff a call for the parts.

great to deal with, and good prices.

Yep, I was happy with what I got from Shane. He is on this forum and will help match the spring rate to your set-up.

My guess is you will want to go 3" and will end up with something that feels reasonably hard but that flexes okay.

Post by **suttygu** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:00 pm

why cant you flex a 2 0r 3 inch lift??

Post by **ELF_83** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:54 pm

move closer to the harbour, you'll have a handfull towin your boat with 36's on a shorty. just roll with 33 or 35 and stop waistin money and buy lockers.

Post by **ELF_83** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:56 pm

oh and another thing the reason we run softer in the rear up hear is cause we race with our right foot and shorty's need lighter springs in the rear or they kick up rear bad when you jump them.

Post by **suttygu** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:42 am

yeoow

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