need ur opinions boys. will have some money to spend soon and i want to do another big improvement on the truck. so i want the good and the bad. diff lockers or a front tube bar and winch. if i did the bar and winch id probably have to get the bar then waite a bit to get the winch. what do u reckon.
Edit: Also id b able to get a bar and winch for just under 2G. how much would decent lockers cost for front and back.
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Lockers or tube bar and winch.
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Lockers or tube bar and winch.
Last edited by Middo on Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I voted for the winch, Only because I reckon a winch is one of the better things for a 4x4.
I've been in to many situations where a winch was needed.
Hence the reason I bought one =D.
But in the same token lockers are a huge improvement!
Just depends really.
I've been in to many situations where a winch was needed.
Hence the reason I bought one =D.
But in the same token lockers are a huge improvement!
Just depends really.
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Air lockers engage with an air compressor and a switch. Auto lockers engage through some sort of spring mechanism i think when you engage 4wd.Middo wrote:excuse my ignorence but whats the difference between airlockers and auto lockers?
There are pros and cons of each.
Check out the following threads
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic182 ... t=lockrite
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic151 ... ght=locker
Last edited by T_Diesel on Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
My opinion would be lockers. I found I used my winch more to pull others out than myself. As long as you wheel with someone else and carry some decent recovery gear I recon your right. The only other way I would go would maybe be one locker and a hand winch if money is tight. The hand winch will be hard work but at least you can drag yourself out backwards.
Ben
go an auto locker and tiger winch, well under 2k fitted and you will go lots of place and get home again.
winch 650, bar 350 second hand, locker 500 + fitting
I have dual lockers and a winch.
front locker used rarely winch used..... very rarely with 2 lockers (read only to help others)
dualair lockers fitted etc will cost you close to 4k which might help you decide.
read up on auto lockers somelove some hate. see if you can go drive one with one fitted as it seems to be a personal choice.
winch 650, bar 350 second hand, locker 500 + fitting
I have dual lockers and a winch.
front locker used rarely winch used..... very rarely with 2 lockers (read only to help others)
dualair lockers fitted etc will cost you close to 4k which might help you decide.
read up on auto lockers somelove some hate. see if you can go drive one with one fitted as it seems to be a personal choice.
*there's a rock, drive over it :) there's a bigger rock, drive over it :twisted: there's an even bigger rock, oops broke it :oops: Upgrade broken bit :bad-words:
Goto *
Goto *
lockers will improve the ability of the car tenfold, but as others have said can just get you into even more trouble. Can't rely on mates winches all the time - they may not be able to get a cable to you from an appropriate angle and their winch may fail which can land you in even more trouble if you can't get tension off the cable.
Learn to drive without lockers and you'll be a far better driver.
Learn to drive without lockers and you'll be a far better driver.
Tetanus rolling on 37's
I just fitted an auto locker to the front diff of my Hilux and love it. They definately cop a bad wrap and it is due to incorrect installation. I pulled my diff and took it to a specialist who set the backlash correctly, and it works really well. Put your foot down and it locks, take it off and it unlocks. Also I just fitted a tigerz11 winch and it works really well. The locker is the best mod I have made to my truck, but the winch gives me the confidence to use it.
I vote winch and bar.
- You haven't had the car that long, so still don't "know" it or how it drives (ie. you don't know its limits [or your limits] yet).
- Apparently you're flat broke. "Lockers" will cost you about $1400 each end, plus a compressor $300 ish (say $3000). A winch and bar will cost you about $1500.
- As said, lockers can sometimes get you further into the poo. A winch will get you back out.
- You haven't had the car that long, so still don't "know" it or how it drives (ie. you don't know its limits [or your limits] yet).
- Apparently you're flat broke. "Lockers" will cost you about $1400 each end, plus a compressor $300 ish (say $3000). A winch and bar will cost you about $1500.
- As said, lockers can sometimes get you further into the poo. A winch will get you back out.
sounds like a plan - the perfect plan, cause thats what i did 
.
if you arent in a rush you can get great gear reasonably priced but only if your not in a rush.
my truck has far more toys now because i didnt rush into buying the stuff. if i did rush in i wouldnt have had enough money to pay for what it has now.
.if you arent in a rush you can get great gear reasonably priced but only if your not in a rush.
my truck has far more toys now because i didnt rush into buying the stuff. if i did rush in i wouldnt have had enough money to pay for what it has now.
*there's a rock, drive over it :) there's a bigger rock, drive over it :twisted: there's an even bigger rock, oops broke it :oops: Upgrade broken bit :bad-words:
Goto *
Goto *
You could probably do with some more suitable offroad tyres too, before you go throwing money around. If you hock off your current ones before the IFS starts chopping them up, you should get some reasonable money back from them to go towards new tyres.
EDIT: I just bought some more gear from Paul @ Tigerz11. Once again, very happy with price, quality and service. He's a smooth operator.
EDIT: I just bought some more gear from Paul @ Tigerz11. Once again, very happy with price, quality and service. He's a smooth operator.
depends on what the club is. Some would offer great training and advice while others would be the furtherest thing from what a beginner should be learning.TheOtherLeft wrote:Join a 4WD club and learn what's you'd learn in a course.grimbo wrote:4wd driving course
lockers
lockers
Ransom note = demand + collage
Buy 2nd hand and have mates selling lockers, got 2 air lockers for $500, so I could afford a highmount winchcoxy321 wrote:Or you could be a tight-arse like me and buy mainly second hand parts.Kingston_99 wrote:u never know you could grab yuorself a set of 2nd hand air lockers and also get ur bar and winch. shop around before u jump into stuff.
i leanrt my lesson to shop around before swipin the card.
I vote for lockers though
'89 Hilux Single Cab - 3RZ, 35" Kreepy Krawlers, 4.88's, F & R Air lockers, RUF, Longfields, TG Highsteer, Highmount and no money
Lockers will get you a lot of places, they will also get you into even more trouble.
A winch will get you out of more places than lockers.
Winch first then lockers. Maybe a good second hand winch, then get friendly with someone that can weld. With the moey left over buy a locker or have at least enough a good point to start saving for a locker.
A winch will get you out of more places than lockers.
Winch first then lockers. Maybe a good second hand winch, then get friendly with someone that can weld. With the moey left over buy a locker or have at least enough a good point to start saving for a locker.
Anything is possible, it just comes down to time and money.
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