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Vitara 1.6ltr 8 valve 'v' 16 valve

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Vitara 1.6ltr 8 valve 'v' 16 valve

Post by wickedstix »

hi all

i'm about to convert my 1.3 sierra to a 1.6 vit carby,

i've found some conflicting info on the net that i need clearing up,

is there any difference between the mounting of a 16 valve compaired to the 8 valve ? ?

some say if you use the 8v you don't need and adapter plate for the gear box and with the 16v you need a adapter kit (eg. BenT kit)

also some say if you use the 1.3ltr head with the 1.6 block you get more compression, any thoughts

any help
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Post by 11_evl »

ANY 1600 motor > 1300 gear box will require an adaptor plate of some discription.

for ease of install you can unbolt your 1300 head with manifold carby and exhaust (may need modifying as 1600 block is taller) and bolt directly to 1600 bottom end. timing belt and pulleys will need modifying pending block choice.
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Post by joeblow »

don't waste you're time with a 1.3 head.
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Post by wickedstix »

Thanks heaps guys

i'm getting a complete 1.6 vit carby motor (carby, starter, alt etc.)

but just wanted to clear up the install thing mainly so i didn't want to spend money if i didn't need to,

any recomendation's on adding a few "herbs"? i'm mainly after more torque over speed

thanks again guys
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Post by alien »

4-2-1 extractors to 2" pipe to 2" cat and 2" out the back - youll get loads of torque.

that said i had 1.6 8v with sierra carb, got more power from a weber carby, then went EFI 16v and i reckon i've doubled the torque - well, it feels like it.
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Post by wickedstix »

awsome it sounds like its gonna be a hell of a lot better than my very tired smoky rattley 1.3 with a cherade carby that sucked ass on slopes,

was gonna go efi 1.6 but havent got the time,

i went the 1.6 carb due to it being quickest, cheapest and easiest fix for now,

thanks again

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Post by 11_evl »

just buy the EFI setup. while your putting the motor in, send the wiring harness to killalux and he will modify it so all you have to do it supply ign and power and earth, wire up fuel pump and your done, from what i have heard he is pretty good.
plus the efi will be much better than any carb
worth a thought i guess :cool:
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Post by vitara guy »

dont mean to take over thread but can you but a 16 valve efi on a block that origonal has a carby and how hard is it (other than the wiring)
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Post by 11_evl »

Need to change pistons. 16v ones have 4x fly cuts in them
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Post by alien »

thats how mines set up...

1.6 carby bottom end, EFI pistons, jimny top end with 1.6 injectors.
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Post by Mudbits »

I know I sound like a stuck record but go 16V injected. Its well worth it and you wont be disapointed.
We move vehicles around all day here and when you get in the carb ones they cough and splutter then you need choke, more choke, less choke, and they stall all the time!
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Post by mrRocky »

1.6 carby has more bottom end pull than 1.3 but doesnt like to rev as easily and personally i prefer the 1.3 for offroad.
The 1.6 with fuel injection however is miles better
The 1.6 16 V is better again
I think you will be dissapointed with a 1.6 carby, i know i was
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Post by VR Rodeo »

alien wrote:thats how mines set up...

1.6 carby bottom end, EFI pistons, jimny top end with 1.6 injectors.
Which computer did you use ? Jimny or Vit
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Post by alien »

jimny =)
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Post by Guy »

mrRocky wrote:1.6 carby has more bottom end pull than 1.3 but doesnt like to rev as easily and personally i prefer the 1.3 for offroad.
The 1.6 with fuel injection however is miles better
The 1.6 16 V is better again
I think you will be dissapointed with a 1.6 carby, i know i was
A 1.6 carby Vs a carbed 1.3 is a night and day difference in my opinion.. The 1.6 is the motor the sierra should have always had.

The efi version is a leap ahead again..
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