Notice: We request that you don't just set up a new account at this time if you are a previous user.
If you used to be one of our moderators, please feel free to reach out to Chris via the facebook Outerlimits4x4 group and he will get you set back up with access should he need you.
Recovery:If you cannot access your old email address and don't remember your password, please click here to log a change of email address so you can do a password reset.

endless air?

Tech Talk for Nissan owners.

Moderators: toaddog, V8Patrol

Post Reply
Posts: 99
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:41 am
Location: MINTO

endless air?

Post by wyliespatrol »

can it be done

i want to set up a endless air but don't want to get rid of the air con!!!

is this at all possable? (that is does someone know a way to do it)
Posts: 384
Joined: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:28 pm
Location: narre warren victoria

Post by stokedapollo »

buy one of the shelf
add another aircon compressor?
What I like to say to the buy a GQ thing....

my MQ is a convertable, hows about your GQ! The Finger
Posts: 1857
Joined: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:16 am
Location: ipswich

Post by nastytroll »

What motor do you have? TD42T and TD42 motors mount the second a/c pump under the timing cover below the injector pump.
Posts: 45681
Joined: Wed Nov 27, 2002 10:13 am

Re: endless air?

Post by bogged »

Posts: 99
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:41 am
Location: MINTO

Re: endless air?

Post by wyliespatrol »

:finger: get over it bogged
Posts: 99
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:41 am
Location: MINTO

Post by wyliespatrol »

Tb42 can I fit another a/c compressor

in there ?
Posts: 45681
Joined: Wed Nov 27, 2002 10:13 am

Post by bogged »

wyliespatrol wrote:Tb42 can I fit another a/c compressor

in there ?
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/search.php
serious, its all been done before, even with plans for the brackets. your not doing anything ground breaking.
User avatar
sw1
Posts: 297
Joined: Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:06 am
Location: around the place

Post by sw1 »

a while back i saw a tb42 gq with two air compressors - 1 for ac & 1 for compressed air.

they were basically side be side with a short belt, pulleys same size.
i am not familiar with the stock layout of a tb42 so i do not know if the positioning of the a/c unit was stock, but they fitted in there.

they were on the passenger side of the engine bay, tho i dont remember if they were top or bottom
2003 GU Patrol ST 4.2L Diesel Turbo Intercooled
1988 D21 Pathfinder 3.8L V6 & T700 - SOLD 11/12
Posts: 1363
Joined: Tue May 13, 2003 10:54 am
Location: Scarborough, Qld

Post by bigbluemav »

Considering the cost (of the unit AND the brackets), the drama of setting up the Endless Air compressor and the fact that it will be difficult to maintain considering its tricky position, why not consider a good quality electric compressor with an on board air system.
To get the full benefit of the Endless Air, you'll have to set up an on board air system anyway. If you have a second battery, you could set up one (or two) electric compressors for a similar result for probably less money and don't have the added complication of an engine driven compressor.

I had a converted Sanden SD508 compressor and switched to a two compressor (Ebay Max Air copies) system with 2 air tanks totalling about 25 litres hooked up to air lockers and an air line.

Just my 2c worth.


Dave Mc
Big Dave, Scarborough, Qld
Loose Screws 4wd Racing Team
Posts: 31
Joined: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:18 pm

Post by Captain Datto »

Wyliesptarol, http://members.mcs.net.au/~grungle/endlessair.html has pretty much everything you need to know. If you can find a 7 piston Sanden comp, but they're a bit thin on the ground. Self serve wreckers are the gop, they were a common fit for aftermarket AC in the 80's. I found a 508 on a RWD Mazda 323.
bigbluemav wrote:Considering the cost (of the unit AND the brackets), the drama of setting up the Endless Air compressor and the fact that it will be difficult to maintain considering its tricky position, why not consider a good quality electric compressor with an on board air system.
To get the full benefit of the Endless Air, you'll have to set up an on board air system anyway. If you have a second battery, you could set up one (or two) electric compressors for a similar result for probably less money and don't have the added complication of an engine driven compressor.

I had a converted Sanden SD508 compressor and switched to a two compressor (Ebay Max Air copies) system with 2 air tanks totalling about 25 litres hooked up to air lockers and an air line.

Just my 2c worth.


Dave Mc
I'm running a converted Sanden 508 on my TD42. Cost all up;

Compressor - $38
Compressor brackets - $110 (I got lazy and had it all laser cut, could of easily cut and drilled it myself for way less)
Gaskets for compressor - $15
Grub screw and grease nipple for compressor - free
Braided air line from compressor - $40
Air tank, lines and random fittings - probably ran about $200

You'll need the air tank, lines and fittings if you want a serious set up anyway. What's a decent electric compressor worth? And how slow are they? Bump the throttle up a bit and tyres pump up in no time at all. Granted buying a premade kit is expensive, but they're just converted Sandens anyway.

Difficult to maintain? I filled it with grease when I put it on and give it a squirt every couple of months. Never thrown the belt and it's the same belt as the power steering.
Posts: 99
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:41 am
Location: MINTO

Post by wyliespatrol »

aftre looking i am thinking i will get an eletric
User avatar
ddr
Posts: 589
Joined: Thu Jan 09, 2003 7:44 am
Location: Not where I wanna be

Post by ddr »

wyliespatrol wrote:aftre looking i am thinking i will get an eletric
I have electric & after using a mates EA im getting EA setup. There is no contest between the 2
Posts: 19062
Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2003 11:39 pm
Location: In a horse near you

Post by chimpboy »

wyliespatrol wrote:Tb42 can I fit another a/c compressor

in there ?
Yes, I have made up a bracket that spaces the power steering pump upwards (still uses the same hose but needs a new belt) and then mounts a VL commodore compressor underneath it.

I haven't fitted it yet, but there's definitely room. However, I think different TB42's have different A/C compressor arrangements.

Basically if I ever get around to bolting it in, it will have, on the passenger side of the engine, and looking from the top down:

Power steering pump
Compressed air compressor
A/C compressor

I think the ps pump and the compressed air compressor will be sharing a belt, from memory and without bothering to go and look.

This is NOT a difficult bracket to make, either.
This is not legal advice.
Posts: 6
Joined: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:06 pm
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Post by TheHobbit81 »

If you want to know for sure contact "EndlessAir" at endlessair@endlessair.com.au or checkout www.endlessair.com.au
Posts: 93
Joined: Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:17 pm
Location: melbourne

Post by full-boost »

let me guess hobbit, you work for them or sell them or have some sort of steak in them. the ONLY posts you have done on here are related to endless air, and ONLY to direct people to using genuine. if you do have something to do with them, it would be wrong of you not to say so!
Posts: 4494
Joined: Mon Nov 25, 2002 9:51 pm
Location: Golden Square

Post by turps »

full-boost wrote:let me guess hobbit, you work for them or sell them or have some sort of steak in them. the ONLY posts you have done on here are related to endless air, and ONLY to direct people to using genuine. if you do have something to do with them, it would be wrong of you not to say so!
I would agree.
I also think there an overpriced POS. Cheaper to go thru a bunch of old sandens from the wreckers than buy theres.
THOUGHT FOR THE DAY....
Posts: 1232
Joined: Sun Feb 29, 2004 11:37 pm
Location: Brisvagas

Post by Bad JuJu »

TheHobbit81 wrote:If you want to know for sure contact "EndlessAir" at endlessair@endlessair.com.au or checkout www.endlessair.com.au

Might be good if your site worked with firefox & had an index.htm in there too rather than just browsing for files??
Posting quality not quantity!

Wanted: Stock HiLux Front Leaf Springs
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 9 guests