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"Fake" Engel Fridge at Repco. Any info?
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Master of my own domain
"Fake" Engel Fridge at Repco. Any info?
Hey all, I noticed in the latest Repco Catalogue they have an Engel fridge freezer, 55L for $799. Heres the ad:
Before i jumped out and bought it, i thought i'd do some research first.
I can't find much info but it may be a chinese nock off,
This is about all the info i could find on the fridge. Does anyone have any more info to share about it?
http://www.pradopoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6858
I would be more than happy to fork out that cash for a genuine article, but for another generic chinese fridge... No. I have seen them cheaper.
Mike
Before i jumped out and bought it, i thought i'd do some research first.
I can't find much info but it may be a chinese nock off,
This is about all the info i could find on the fridge. Does anyone have any more info to share about it?
http://www.pradopoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6858
I would be more than happy to fork out that cash for a genuine article, but for another generic chinese fridge... No. I have seen them cheaper.
Mike
Master of my own domain
Just like a Toyota Lexcen is a genuine toyota... And Ford Maverick a Genuine Ford... Right?4bdan wrote:I would be very suprised if it was not a genuine Engel. Repco would be leaving themselves way open to prosecution if it's not.
Have you at least gone down to have a look at it? Ask them behind the counter if comes with a warranty from Engel?
That Engel sure looks similar to this Outback TravelMate: http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x104 ... 1221134424
And this one:
http://www.ipswichbatteries.com.au/travelmate.html These show the fridge covered, but you can see the vents are in the same places, as is the temp control.
Also, if you could show me where on the Engel website they show this product that would be great! http://www.engelaustralia.com.au/cgi-bin/products.cgi
These are made in China.
Still, I'm happy to be proven wrong. Would love an Engel for that price!
Mike
WTF?mike_nofx wrote:Just like a Toyota Lexcen is a genuine toyota... And Ford Maverick a Genuine Ford... Right?4bdan wrote:I would be very suprised if it was not a genuine Engel. Repco would be leaving themselves way open to prosecution if it's not.
Have you at least gone down to have a look at it? Ask them behind the counter if comes with a warranty from Engel?
That Engel sure looks similar to this Outback TravelMate: http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x104 ... 1221134424
And this one:
http://www.ipswichbatteries.com.au/travelmate.html These show the fridge covered, but you can see the vents are in the same places, as is the temp control.
Also, if you could show me where on the Engel website they show this product that would be great! http://www.engelaustralia.com.au/cgi-bin/products.cgi
These are made in China.
Still, I'm happy to be proven wrong. Would love an Engel for that price!
Mike
You posted in your title that it is a "fake" Engel, I simply pointed out that if it was, then Repco would be leaving themselves open to a law suit.
If it was indeed built, distributed and badged as an ENGEL without the companies consent, then yes I would consider it a "fake".
The fact that it is advertised as an Engel would lead me to believe that it is distributed and badged by Engel. It very well might be made in China, but as I said previously, have you gone in and looked at one & asked if it comes with an Engel Warranty?
Why don't you give Engel a call since your so passionate about it and talk to them?
And yes the Toyota Lexen is a TOYOTA and the Ford Maverick is still a FORD. They may not have been designed and built by Toyota and Ford, but they were sold BADGED as such and came with warranties from Toyota and Ford.
Are you starting to get it now???
Back in a Lux again...
Somebody gets itgrimbo wrote:they are not knockoffs, they would be a different quality fridge sold by Engel. Just a different type of fridge to their normal ones. There is no way in hell a company like repco would be selling a knockoff fridge, especially of such a recognised brand name as Engel.
Back in a Lux again...
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they are not knockoffs, they would be a different quality fridge sold by Engel. Just a different type of fridge to their normal ones. There is no way in hell a company like repco would be selling a knockoff fridge, especially of such a recognised brand name as Engel.
x2
they are not knockoffs, they would be a different quality fridge sold by Engel. Just a different type of fridge to their normal ones. There is no way in hell a company like repco would be selling a knockoff fridge, especially of such a recognised brand name as Engel.
x2
hey mike how you doin?
Not sure about quality but as said give them a ring and ask what amps they draw as this will more then likely be pretty high compared to the genuine steel bodied engel...
My engle can run for a full day in the 4by on the 2nd battery and there is still enough power in it to crank the diesel.
Cant help as to the quality of this unit but for the extra money IMOP you would be better to wait and buy one that has been tried and tested for years in the harshest conditions...They have a excellent reputation and better to buy something good and only once.. Nothing worse then taking a chance on something that is still expensive.
Not that that helps your question....but
Brad
Not sure about quality but as said give them a ring and ask what amps they draw as this will more then likely be pretty high compared to the genuine steel bodied engel...
My engle can run for a full day in the 4by on the 2nd battery and there is still enough power in it to crank the diesel.
Cant help as to the quality of this unit but for the extra money IMOP you would be better to wait and buy one that has been tried and tested for years in the harshest conditions...They have a excellent reputation and better to buy something good and only once.. Nothing worse then taking a chance on something that is still expensive.
Not that that helps your question....but
Brad
3.0L turbo diesel, 4" lift, bud's front housing, track assasin cv's, air lokker front + Rear, beadlock'd 37 stickies, high steer, 15.5" travel ranchos, high pinion diff and coils on the rear
Eddie says... you lost $1,000,000.00 grimbo.. ha hagrimbo wrote:Lock in A) Eddieshortyq wrote:so where do engle get there products manufactured?
China
They're made in Japan, Sawafuji Electric Co. Ltd.
It says on the engel au website.
And I went to repco today at Sumner park and yes it comes with 3 year warranty... the fridge also has a engel sticker saying '3 YEAR ENGEL WARRANTY'.
Master of my own domain
I've obviously worded this all wrong. I wasn't trying to accuse Repco of selling a knock off, or of rebadging a cheap fridge themselves.4bdan wrote:WTF?mike_nofx wrote:Just like a Toyota Lexcen is a genuine toyota... And Ford Maverick a Genuine Ford... Right?4bdan wrote:I would be very suprised if it was not a genuine Engel. Repco would be leaving themselves way open to prosecution if it's not.
Have you at least gone down to have a look at it? Ask them behind the counter if comes with a warranty from Engel?
That Engel sure looks similar to this Outback TravelMate: http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x104 ... 1221134424
And this one:
http://www.ipswichbatteries.com.au/travelmate.html These show the fridge covered, but you can see the vents are in the same places, as is the temp control.
Also, if you could show me where on the Engel website they show this product that would be great! http://www.engelaustralia.com.au/cgi-bin/products.cgi
These are made in China.
Still, I'm happy to be proven wrong. Would love an Engel for that price!
Mike
You posted in your title that it is a "fake" Engel, I simply pointed out that if it was, then Repco would be leaving themselves open to a law suit.
If it was indeed built, distributed and badged as an ENGEL without the companies consent, then yes I would consider it a "fake".
The fact that it is advertised as an Engel would lead me to believe that it is distributed and badged by Engel. It very well might be made in China, but as I said previously, have you gone in and looked at one & asked if it comes with an Engel Warranty?
Why don't you give Engel a call since your so passionate about it and talk to them?
And yes the Toyota Lexen is a TOYOTA and the Ford Maverick is still a FORD. They may not have been designed and built by Toyota and Ford, but they were sold BADGED as such and came with warranties from Toyota and Ford.
Are you starting to get it now???
I understand full well that Engel would have consented to the sale of this fridge.
What im trying to clarify is, Is this fridge of ENGEL quality? Is it made by ENGEL using quality japanese parts, as in their usual fridge range?
OR is it a generic chinese fridge, which you can get for $600, Stick on an Engel badge, and add $200 to the price?.... all signs are pointing to yes.
I am also under the impression that when you buy an Engel fridge, you are buying a fridge for life. It should still be keeping my beer cold in 20+ years time.
NOT a fridge that will only outlast its warranty by a few months.
A lot of people will buy a Toyota only because of its reputation of reliability. Is this reliability magically applied to the Lexcen once the toyota badge is stuck on?
Understand me now?
Mike
Master of my own domain
Hey braddy boy. Yeah I would rather pay the extra bucks for quality, but I thought if this was any good it might deserve a look in, being Engel and all. Obviously i was wrong!brad 93hilux wrote:hey mike how you doin?
Not sure about quality but as said give them a ring and ask what amps they draw as this will more then likely be pretty high compared to the genuine steel bodied engel...
My engle can run for a full day in the 4by on the 2nd battery and there is still enough power in it to crank the diesel.
Cant help as to the quality of this unit but for the extra money IMOP you would be better to wait and buy one that has been tried and tested for years in the harshest conditions...They have a excellent reputation and better to buy something good and only once.. Nothing worse then taking a chance on something that is still expensive.
Not that that helps your question....but
Brad
Too bad you're not in NSW this weekend, The Funkhana is on, should be pretty good!
Mike
i have the 55l travelmate fridge which looks exactly the same , and i just come back from a 4 day camp and running it off a 120 a/h battery , the battery still read 12.3 volts at the end of the camping trip , thats with it running at 0 deg cycling between -2 and +2 deg , and the battery was never topped up during this period
i'm jelous... still have not been on any tracks in wa that i can call real 4wd tracks... Though i'm moving just south of perth and am hoping to find some one to take me out... the clubs i have looked at so far are pretty lame compared to that of NSWmike_nofx wrote:Hey braddy boy. Yeah I would rather pay the extra bucks for quality, but I thought if this was any good it might deserve a look in, being Engel and all. Obviously i was wrong!brad 93hilux wrote:hey mike how you doin?
Not sure about quality but as said give them a ring and ask what amps they draw as this will more then likely be pretty high compared to the genuine steel bodied engel...
My engle can run for a full day in the 4by on the 2nd battery and there is still enough power in it to crank the diesel.
Cant help as to the quality of this unit but for the extra money IMOP you would be better to wait and buy one that has been tried and tested for years in the harshest conditions...They have a excellent reputation and better to buy something good and only once.. Nothing worse then taking a chance on something that is still expensive.
Not that that helps your question....but
Brad
Too bad you're not in NSW this weekend, The Funkhana is on, should be pretty good!
Mike
brad
3.0L turbo diesel, 4" lift, bud's front housing, track assasin cv's, air lokker front + Rear, beadlock'd 37 stickies, high steer, 15.5" travel ranchos, high pinion diff and coils on the rear
Im here for the sausage!
if you are needing a hand helding?brad 93hilux wrote:i'm jelous... still have not been on any tracks in wa that i can call real 4wd tracks... Though i'm moving just south of perth and am hoping to find some one to take me out... the clubs i have looked at so far are pretty lame compared to that of NSWmike_nofx wrote:Hey braddy boy. Yeah I would rather pay the extra bucks for quality, but I thought if this was any good it might deserve a look in, being Engel and all. Obviously i was wrong!brad 93hilux wrote:hey mike how you doin?
Not sure about quality but as said give them a ring and ask what amps they draw as this will more then likely be pretty high compared to the genuine steel bodied engel...
My engle can run for a full day in the 4by on the 2nd battery and there is still enough power in it to crank the diesel.
Cant help as to the quality of this unit but for the extra money IMOP you would be better to wait and buy one that has been tried and tested for years in the harshest conditions...They have a excellent reputation and better to buy something good and only once.. Nothing worse then taking a chance on something that is still expensive.
Not that that helps your question....but
Brad
Too bad you're not in NSW this weekend, The Funkhana is on, should be pretty good!
Mike
brad
might want to find your own trails,might bump into someone
on that trail to hold hands with!
[/quote]if you are needing a hand helding?
might want to find your own trails,might bump into someone
on that trail to hold hands with! [/quote]
yeh but from experience the tracks i like to drive generally safer to have some one there.... i get in too much trouble by myself
Not saying the tracks arnt there, but i have no idea where to start and where i have looked i have not found much yet...
...ohh well...
might want to find your own trails,might bump into someone
on that trail to hold hands with! [/quote]
yeh but from experience the tracks i like to drive generally safer to have some one there.... i get in too much trouble by myself
Not saying the tracks arnt there, but i have no idea where to start and where i have looked i have not found much yet...
...ohh well...
3.0L turbo diesel, 4" lift, bud's front housing, track assasin cv's, air lokker front + Rear, beadlock'd 37 stickies, high steer, 15.5" travel ranchos, high pinion diff and coils on the rear
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