More flex from a SPUA MK SWB?

Post by **jtraf** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 1:40 pm

Is there a way to make a Sprung under SWB patrol flex a little better in the front end.

I have already ditched the sway bars in search of more flex but find that the wheels front doesn't work as well as the rear does.
The front tucks up quite well and I have had to cut the indicator protectors and will have to trim edge of guard to clear 35's but droop is not enough.

What have othes done in the past to better this. And SPOA is not a solution at the moment

Post by **beefie** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:42 pm

have you checked the length of your front shocks. as thay may be limiting your down travel.

Post by **Yoko** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:47 pm

have you tryed climax shackels?

http://www.bigballsoffroad.com/prod162.htm

I am trying to find someone on this forum that has used or made them. If you manage to do it could you let me know?

I am thinking of making my own, but am a litle reluctant as for them to be road leagal they must have the replace pin and i am not sure where i can get them strength tested so the main roads will let em have them.

I have an 84 MQ

Post by **beefie** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 5:21 pm

climax shackels would be grate on the rear .but up front it would be a pig to drive on road as thay have to much movement in the bush.

Post by **ShortyMQ** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 6:27 pm

Longer main leaves in the front will give better drop,but will steer a bit 5hitty at speed on crap roads depending on your steering setup.And as beefie said, check the lenghth of your shocks.Also changing the bottom shock mount to an eye instead of a pin helps as there is no twist on the shock.
Hope this helps.

Post by **Screwy** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 7:03 pm

Extended shackles helps a bit, but apart from that.... maybe try removing a coupla leaves.

Screwy

Post by **MQ080** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 7:27 pm

On mine i removed the load leaf and extended the shackles... the flex will never be as good as in the rear, but something i have noticed is that the u-bolts keep snapping as a result of the increased strain

Post by **MQ080** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 7:28 pm

plus there's a 2" suspension lift

Post by **Screwy** » Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:28 pm

yeah, i have heard the u-bolts do snap, though i have never snapped any, not that it matters now as i have SOA.
With regards to the flex, MQ080 is definatly right about not having anything close to the flex in the front as in the back, but GQ's have the same problem. Its common and im not sure there is anything that can be done to make the front as good as the rear, but there are definatly ways of increasing the front.

Screwy

Post by **Yoko** » Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:31 pm

spring over axel conversion?

how much did it cost you?

what is involved?

height increase?

Post by **Screwy** » Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:42 pm

cost me a great deal from a good mate, so in terms of a dollar figure i couldnt say, as no money was switched over. They are worth about $3500 to $4000 from people like ' Offroad Industries ' fully fitted and engineered though.
I think i got about 8 - 10 inches out of it maybe more depending on the tyres etc.
I can now fit 38's whereas before i was scraping 33's to give ya an idea.

Screwy

Post by **Yoko** » Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:26 pm

so what is involved in the conversion? and what would be needed to maintain a roadworthy?

Post by **Screwy** » Tue Feb 24, 2004 8:55 pm

Alot of welding, as in New shock perches, New Spring perches, new extended cross member. Will need longer drive shafts, extended brake lines and breathers, bigger tyres and new high steering setup for starters. If you do it right and get it engineered with a certificate u are road worthy. If u get it done for the dollar amount in the previous post its road worthy as from when u leave the mechanic.

Screwy

Post by **DR Frankenstine** » Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:01 am

I did my own SPOA and it cost about $600 + a weekend. Best weekend ever spent on the nissan! Made a vehicle out of it. Just put a 2" body lift in as well last weekend and it made bugger all difference to the way it handles. It really drives nice.

Post by **Yoko** » Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:25 pm

how much extra clearance you get out of the soa?

what shocks you running?

Post by **Screwy** » Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:00 pm

All MQ SOA 's will give ya about the same amount of increased lift as the diff housings are all exactly the same diameter. About 8 - 10 inches.
Ive got Rancho RS9000's on the front and basic monroes for the rear at the moment but will upgrade when the dollars suit.

Screwy

Post by **Yoko** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 4:09 pm

got any other pics doc?

got an details about stuff i have to do?

Post by **Screwy** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 9:27 pm

There are 2 very extensive threads in the members section that wil tell u all u need to know and hey have pics.
Mine : ' The Screwy Screwball Incorporated MQ '

and

V8Patrol's : ' V8 Patrol.... '

Mine has all the SOA application pics and both have how everything is made thanks to V8Patrol.

You will find everything u need to know in these threads.

Also DR Frankenstines thread may have some as well, not sure though....

If ya have any other questions just PM someone and ask, we are all more than happy to help.

Screwy

Post by **fatassgq** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:11 am

look at this one

Post by **Screwy** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 9:16 am

dont spose u could get a bigger pic of that could ya?
Is it sprung under?
Thats a decent amount of flex is all. Thats about as much as a GQ shorty gets.

Screwy

Post by **fatassgq** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 9:22 am

sprung under

Post by **jtraf** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:24 am

more details and pics of this vehicle required.

From what I can tell the rear end has had alot of modification and the springs are mounted further forward than stock.

MORE PIC AND DETAILS PLEASE

Post by **fatassgq** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:03 am

Just go here http://www.superiorengineering.com.au and look under before and after photos. I don't know a lot about everything that was done to this vehicle but I would think that longer spring packs with moved fixed eye mounts in the rear would be a start.
The whole spring pack would not have been moved forward just the mount to accomodate the longer length of spring.

Is a nice truck and apparently flexes good. Depends what you want to do and what you want to spend etc. As usual with anything.

Brian

Post by **drive it** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:09 am

i hade the same problem as mq080 when i played with the front end i snap a u bolts cause of the extra strain, replaced the first one yesterday.

Post by **DR Frankenstine** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:55 pm

drive it wrote:i hade the same problem as mq080 when i played with the front end i snap a u bolts cause of the extra strain, replaced the first one yesterday.

I used to break u bolts nearly every trip.SPOA no more broken u bolts

Post by **shorty.mqute** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:17 pm

thats pretty impressive... but can you get a bigger pic?
looks spoa but cant really tell

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