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Hilux Tailshaft thickness?

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Hilux Tailshaft thickness?

Post by 4RUNNER_01 »

Hey just wondering whats the thickest rear shaft people have had made up that works?

Last few times Ive been out wheeling seen a lot of guys that can drop onto rocks and things and not bend their shaft if mine see's a rock getting too close it tucks up and bends..

So i was thinking around a 5mm wall anyone got any ideas on what they've tried?
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Post by thehanko »

im no expert at all but just voicing a few thoughts.

I would assume that just going thicker wall (i.e heavier) will increase the risk of the shaft being out of balance or getting that harmonic shake that destroys them? maybe the effect is not that severe though.

Going to a slightly larger tube diameter would make it much stronger and allow for a thicker wall as the tube would support the weight better.

I would talk to a good driveshaft manufacturer and get their thoughts.
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Post by one_waz »

when i made mine, the old one had a wall thickness of about 1-2mm, paper thin basically, the new ones about 4-5mm but am yet to test it
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Post by 4RUNNER_01 »

one_waz wrote:when i made mine, the old one had a wall thickness of about 1-2mm, paper thin basically, the new ones about 4-5mm but am yet to test it
When you say test it do mean drive with it or knock it on something?
Be curious to know if they balance up alright I'd assume they could but it would be heavy..
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Post by HLX.GRL »

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Post by one_waz »

yet to drive with it in, im still in the process of converting to 4link
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Post by 4RUNNER_01 »

HLX.GRL wrote:like me last night
Ha ha you should look into doing the same thing, seen yours got me thinkin theyre nothing like patrol's thats 4 sure
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Post by HLX.GRL »

i have a new tail shaft now much thicker wall :D
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Post by Willy Hilux »

Mine is about 6.5mm thick. Guuna make ont for the front as it works well in the rear. Not balanced though.
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Post by 4RUNNER_01 »

So apparently it costs about $420 to just get the tube section replaced with 5mm wall tube but it also doesn't come in the same OD as the tube from standard which is 65mm roughly i have to go up to 75mm does this sound right?

Also there doesn't seem to be many places in Sydney that do this sorta thing anyone know of any?
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Post by Willy Hilux »

The size I got is 63.6mm x 50.1mm seamless. Just have to machine the bore size to fit the ends in.
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Post by Willy Hilux »

Here's a website for the steel - It's hollow bar you are after.

63mm OD x 50mm ID - Part way down the page.

http://www.interlloy.com.au/data_sheets ... sizes.html
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Post by Unidriveshafts »

4RUNNER_01 wrote:So apparently it costs about $420 to just get the tube section replaced with 5mm wall tube but it also doesn't come in the same OD as the tube from standard which is 65mm roughly i have to go up to 75mm does this sound right?

Also there doesn't seem to be many places in Sydney that do this sorta thing anyone know of any?
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Post by 4RUNNER_01 »

Unidriveshafts wrote:
4RUNNER_01 wrote:So apparently it costs about $420 to just get the tube section replaced with 5mm wall tube but it also doesn't come in the same OD as the tube from standard which is 65mm roughly i have to go up to 75mm does this sound right?

Also there doesn't seem to be many places in Sydney that do this sorta thing anyone know of any?
We do a 70mm x 4mm seamless tube. Don't go to thick as you will more than likely snap a pinion off b4 anything else. Cheers Steve.
Hey, yea that's the size i keep getting told to use but i think 4mm wont take much of a beating before it dents 63x6.5mm sounds like the go, in that size its $850 for a new shaft or $400 to just swap the tube and balance of a local tailshaft guy.

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TAIL SHAFT

Post by hotlux00 »

CAN YOU GIVE THE NO FOR THE SHAFT BLOKE. JUST PUT 5 LINK IN FRONT AND 4 LINK IN REAR OF 2000 DUEL CAB AND NEED SOMETHING TO HANDLE THE INJECTED 350 AND AUTO.
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Re: TAIL SHAFT

Post by 4RUNNER_01 »

hotlux00 wrote:CAN YOU GIVE THE NO FOR THE SHAFT BLOKE. JUST PUT 5 LINK IN FRONT AND 4 LINK IN REAR OF 2000 DUEL CAB AND NEED SOMETHING TO HANDLE THE INJECTED 350 AND AUTO.
Yea mate his number is 95676247 see how you go
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