Rover front end mega flex

[GRIMACE]

I have recently design up a new front radius arm for rovers. I beleive it will be orsum.

I have attached a detailed image which shows the primary workings.

I wanted to get your direct opinions before I presented the design to Mothfukle-Engineering for consideration in using it in there up and coming stupedy suspension lift or possilbly the MFE performance devision of products

Note: The image also contains a prototype truss like, material coating design that is in early stages. Please ignore this for now as it's not yet completed.

[discothrasher]

Grimace i reckon you have out done yourself on this one its a winner ,i think fishing line instead of the 6 string will give it more strech therefore creating a bigger flex and good rebound to

can you put my disco down as a test rig for this
cheers kelvin

[chimpboy]

I'll give you $1500 for a pair of those.

I've seen people (in movies) get a LOT of flex out of bamboo, it is an awesome concept.

[GRIMACE]

Thanks for the comments guys. Its good to know that my ideas and all the r&d put into this so far may just pay off for 4wd enthusiast.

re: Pricing - I am actually looking to keep the cost down so as any one whom is into this hobbie can afford to play along. I expect preliminary pricing discusions with Mothfukle-Engineering to place a full kit at around $1400. This will include one front passenger side bamboo radius arm (driver side arm remains factory), two bamboo rear lower links, and approx 7 litres of the stick on diff protection stuff (yet to be labeled).

Of course the radius arms, rear links etc can be purchased seperately and I would expect pricing to be very economical. No one will be able to compete with this kit. I just hope Mothfukle accept the proposal once it is put forward to them.

Cheers
Grimace

[RangingRover]

What are the bushes to go with this concept? I forsee some sort of giant marshmallows (castor correcting of course)?

[discothrasher]

i think we can get some real good results out of your Grimace design if we can get these cars from my country to test them out at ormeau http://theafricantoyshop.prosort.co.za/ ... noImg=true

[Micka]

I wold ask a moderater to lock and remove this thread immediately.

There is a court case pending as Grimace has failed to properly accord grattitude to the co-founder and fellow commer-upperer of this orsum suspension idea.



far-q Grimace.

I thought we had something special.


See you in court, bitchy-do.

[Simo63]

Thanks for the comments guys. Its good to know that my ideas and all the r&d put into this so far may just pay off for 4wd enthusiast.

re: Pricing - I am actually looking to keep the cost down so as any one whom is into this hobbie can afford to play along. I expect preliminary pricing discusions with Mothfukle-Engineering to place a full kit at around $1400. This will include one front passenger side bamboo radius arm (driver side arm remains factory), two bamboo rear lower links, and approx 7 litres of the stick on diff protection stuff (yet to be labeled).

Of course the radius arms, rear links etc can be purchased seperately and I would expect pricing to be very economical. No one will be able to compete with this kit. I just hope Mothfukle accept the proposal once it is put forward to them.

Cheers
Grimace

Excellent concept dude .. can you make a custom set for my 80 series as I see there is already someone making these for Nissans (with Yota shells ??) and now you are doing the Rangie versions ... for a little extra $$ can you pleeeease make some bamboo ones for my 80??

PS. Do I get a free MF Engineering sticker ... cos I really want one of them too

[ISUZUROVER]

Awesome idea Grimy, wood/bamboo is seriously underrated.

However I suspect KAM may be after you re the glue-on strengthening idea:

KAM is also working on a 'glue' that will allow you to attach the ring without welding.

Actually, knowing you grimy, you may get excited about "glue on rings"???

I was going to make my links from hoop pine, but bamb oo might be even better...

My ultimate goal is to get MFE to make the equivalent of this as a kit 4x4:

[GRIMACE]

Soo much more R&D is to go into this. I can not beleive it, I am now overwhelemed with responses. I have been getting pms from aftermarket 4wd component manufacturers, all showing interest in these new concepts I have brought to light.

To answer some questions;
Re the bushes, the driver side bush remains factory, the bush on the new bamboo arm is simply another peice of bamboo grafted horizontally at a 90 degree angle.
I had looked at the idea of marshmellows, but heat got the better of them real fast.

KAMs glue on ring is of no concern to me, I have researched their product and it is of completely different design, and to be used in a completely different scenario.
My Paper mache' stregthening compund can be applied to almost any surface of your 4wd. It will add significant strength to a differential housing with minimal weight (unlike a big hefty truss).

Micka, you shot your mouth of too fast buddy.
Now everyone knows you did indeed provide a lot of R&D of the Bamboo concept and you will get your return, trust me.
I was actually hoping to save you the hard work of pushing this concept into the 4wd market (more importantly mothfukle-engineers). I sincerly felt you had done enough already, and was looking to suprise you.
No need to get all offensive about it, give me a call and we can discuss it further, I am sure you will be happy with what I have in store for you.

Simo - Unfortunately there is no current provision for a toyota design, but I am sure if the market request it and my proposal to mothfukle is a sucess, it wont be long before we see the design used in all makes of 4wds'. Yes even ladas

I can't help with the Mothfukle stickers, you will have to PM Barnsey at MFE to obtain them.

Once again, thank you all for the replys so far, I am truely amazed at the interest that has been expressed from everyone. More to come soon.

Regards
Grimace
Bamboo Offroad

[GRIMACE]

My ultimate goal is to get MFE to make the equivalent of this as a kit 4x4:

BTW, that is fricken insanely c00l!

I might looking into the patents, and if it is at all possible, Bamboo Offroad could design, test and build one for you.

[ISUZUROVER]

My ultimate goal is to get MFE to make the equivalent of this as a kit 4x4:

BTW, that is fricken insanely c00l!

I might looking into the patents, and if it is at all possible, Bamboo Offroad could design, test and build one for you.

Cool - so is BOR a subsidiary of MFE?

Put me down for some bamboo 42's and bamboo portals

[GRIMACE]

My ultimate goal is to get MFE to make the equivalent of this as a kit 4x4:

BTW, that is fricken insanely c00l!

I might looking into the patents, and if it is at all possible, Bamboo Offroad could design, test and build one for you.

Cool - so is BOR a subsidiary of MFE?

Put me down for some bamboo 42's and bamboo portals

At present there is no offiliation with BOR and MFE.
I have stumbled across some inside information that suggest MFE has no interest in the BOR products. Head engineer there thinks I am a fuqtard and wants nothing to do with me

So it may just mean I will have to step up to the next level and begin production myself in house, as daunting as it all seems.

Step by step... ohhh baby!

[def90]

hhmmm, looks fanterrytowellingtastic grimace!!

however i believe you may need better triangulation on the left link i believe hubba bubba has a new product out that may increase the elasticity thus giving more flex

[Slunnie]

Grimace, i'm sure you dont want to give away too many proprietry secrets, but with the paper mache, are you using Clag or high tensile flour & water for glue?

[disco_owner]

slunnie , I suspect Grimmie 's going to be using KAM Glue for that application ,

mate I'll be up for some 24 spline Bambo Axles and Flanges and CV's for my Truck.

Just let us know when they're going into production ....

[ISUZUROVER]

Grimace, i'm sure you dont want to give away too many proprietry secrets, but with the paper mache, are you using Clag or high tensile flour & water for glue?

Since it is Grimace, I suspect he may be using his own personal man-love fluid for glue...

In which case there may be some issues if production demand increases...

[GRIMACE]

Wow, big progress has been made since yesterday morning.
I have got some more info on the paper mache' style strengthening compound that I will elaborate on further down the track.
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Will do my best to answer the following;

hhmmm, looks fanterrytowellingtastic grimace!!

however i believe you may need better triangulation on the left link i believe hubba bubba has a new product out that may increase the elasticity thus giving more flex

Thank you for your concern, preliminary testing shows the current design to be rather substantial, but we her at BOR are always looking to improve. I have forward your suggestions onto my team of poo flingin midgets that will also be handed a $400 R&D budget to further investigate the possible use of hubba bubba.

Grimace, i'm sure you dont want to give away too many proprietry secrets, but with the paper mache, are you using Clag or high tensile flour & water for glue?

Unfortunately I can;t disclose the bonding process in depth as that is top secret. I can tell you that it does contain flour, as well as glag, ordinary water is not an option, we have to use bore water, the midgets love it.

slunnie , I suspect Grimmie 's going to be using KAM Glue for that application ,

mate I'll be up for some 24 spline Bambo Axles and Flanges and CV's for my Truck.

Just let us know when they're going into production ....

In know way will any other manufactures product be used by Bamboo Offroad.
Bamboo axles and cvs are proving rather hard to implement into standard differential housings. We have currently scrapped the axle and cv division and are currently looking to design a third member and locking carrier that are capable of utilising the bamboo axles. We found that with standard centres, the centres (CW&P) quickly became the weak point.
The last thing we want at BOR is for customers complaining cause our orsum axles and cvs destroyed their low strength crown wheels.

We at BOR want to make sure all our kits are as complete as possible to allow them to be used to full potential.

Since it is Grimace, I suspect he may be using his own personal man-love fluid for glue...

In which case there may be some issues if production demand increases...

You know too much!
No seriously we have looked into the possibilities of increased demand and have a bio fluid that is redily available and approx 45% stronger.
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I have taken some photos to show just how serious we here at BOR are about our bamboo!

First up is the trees! ow my gawd, arn't they just beautiful?

We utilise each and every component of the tree, including the leaves. You will find out why shortly.


The Black bamboo is known as Timor Black - I am very proud to have this new bamboo to toy with, preliminary test show this is best used for links and other solid components.


This is an old test pile, there is enough bamboo here to make 3 kits of links, and that was the original plan for this sample, but since the introduction of Timor Black bamboo here at BOR we have put this lot aside for use as a control sample. MORE TESTING



Ok I didn't really want to spill any of the beans about the strengthening compound but though what the heck. I am just so excited about the prospect of BOR fast becoming a leader in the offroad industry that I just cant help myself.



As you can see we utilise a large variety of compounds in our Bamache'™ Strengthining compound, there is aloe vera hiding in there somewhere.
This is what it looks like prior to the emulsification stage. It's basically just the raw materials. It's really good stuff, I wish I could show you the finish product but as we are still finding great strength gains with each and every sample I am affraid you will all have to wait.

Regards
Grimace

[KiwiBacon]

I have just one question.

Can we send money now?

[Slunnie]

So.....

are you suggesting that there is no "Extract of Grimace" in the bonding agent?

[Petes]

Oh god, I hope there isn't!!!!!

[def90]

tech update grimace, a java black culm is 1.79 x the strength of timor black culm, and i know your 'special' organic bio-compound hardening products that are added during the infancy growth stages will also be compatible with java black


trust me, i used and tested both before erecting scaffolding on a 7 storey building just weeks ago.

[GRIMACE]

tech update grimace, a java black culm is 1.79 x the strength of timor black culm, and i know your 'special' organic bio-compound hardening products that are added during the infancy growth stages will also be compatible with java black


trust me, i used and tested both before erecting scaffolding on a 7 storey building just weeks ago.

I am worried that Java Black will be too hardened and sheer to easily. The beaty of the bamboo is its stable flex properties.

But knowing your background your welcome to come on board and work with BOR, always room for a whoreticulturalist!

[def90]

tech update grimace, a java black culm is 1.79 x the strength of timor black culm, and i know your 'special' organic bio-compound hardening products that are added during the infancy growth stages will also be compatible with java black


trust me, i used and tested both before erecting scaffolding on a 7 storey building just weeks ago.

I am worried that Java Black will be too hardened and sheer to easily. The beaty of the bamboo is its stable flex properties.

But knowing your background your welcome to come on board and work with BOR, always room for a whoreticulturalist!

i've always wanted to get my foot in the door at BOR industries, but does this mean i have to follow the strict hands down bum up work policy? i can promise you my whoreticulturalist skills will be valuable i've already designed some new zippycuffs from infant bamboo shoots, tests to date rate them at 63kgs, still looking for suitable test samples to get a higher load rating...

[dobbo]

It would be interesting to see how the mega flex system work with our prototype silicone injected chassis rail system. I was discussing your product with my associate and design partner and we are considering a purchase of your system For R&D. Our problem is we are not sure how well the two systems would react to each other. Our fears are that the level of flex produced by combining the products could have dier consequences. Best case scenario being that the two systems cancel each other out, the worst case scenario is that we produce enough flex that on rebound the vehicle will twist onto itself crushing the occupants. This will then cause the vehicle to rebounds again producing a pendulum effect with the result being a vacuum so large that it would not only put Grimace's mum out of business, but could actually end the world as we know it. Fed by both itself and any foreign matter it ingests the vacuumous void increases in size to become a black hole thus destroying all life in it's vacinity. For the few and far survivers of this void of destruction it is forever known as "grimace's hole of death"

[GRIMACE]

"grimace's hole of death"

pfft dont be soo rediculous....
































that already exists!

[dobbo]

"grimace's hole of death"

pfft dont be soo rediculous....


that already exists!

What other names could the hypothetical vacuum could be called.

Grimaces suck hole?
Grimaces worm hole portal of death?
mum?

suggestions?

Would you be interested in a joint project, with our chassis and your megaflex? We could see about adding a clock radio to the mix and creating a time machine, then travel back in time buy out all the breweries and mixer drink companies during an economic downturn. Grimace, we could be timelords or hold the worlds governments for ransom.


Dobbo the overlord and Grimace the global dominatrix has a certain ring to it. The world could be our oyster to salt, snort and swallow.



Also have you considered using Siliflex for the suspension bushes?

[GRIMACE]

"grimace's hole of death"

pfft dont be soo rediculous....


that already exists!

What other names could the hypothetical vacuum could be called.

Grimaces suck hole?
Grimaces worm hole portal of death?
mum?

suggestions?

Would you be interested in a joint project, with our chassis and your megaflex? We could see about adding a clock radio to the mix and creating a time machine, then travel back in time buy out all the breweries and mixer drink companies during an economic downturn. Grimace, we could be timelords or hold the worlds governments for ransom.


Dobbo the overlord and Grimace the global dominatrix has a certain ring to it. The world could be our oyster to salt, snort and swallow.



Also have you considered using Siliflex for the suspension bushes?

Your ideas, scare the hell out of me.... THEY ARE FANTASTIC!

Lets do it!

[disco_owner]

Grimace I have found an Endless Supply of Bamboo shoots for "BOR Enterprises". I spotted this supply while I was walking the dogs this morning completely by coincidence

This is Fantastic news for BOR Enterprises.

If you'd like to find out more , please PM me asap.

In return for this information , once BOR suspension goes into production I ask that all my suspension parts be supplied free of charge.

[1MadEngineer]

I have been closely following this thread.

Can i be the sole distributor, of these revolutionary new arms? (gotta get in quick before snake racing snaps them up).

Also how did you get them so strong, these must be 10-20 times stronger than factory nissan ones?