Notice: We request that you don't just set up a new account at this time if you are a previous user.
If you used to be one of our moderators, please feel free to reach out to Chris via the facebook Outerlimits4x4 group and he will get you set back up with access should he need you.
Recovery:If you cannot access your old email address and don't remember your password, please click here to log a change of email address so you can do a password reset.

Silverstone extreme or simex extreme trekker

Tech Talk for Suzuki owners.

Moderators: lay80n, sierrajim

Posts: 97
Joined: Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:18 pm
Location: NEWCASTLE

Silverstone extreme or simex extreme trekker

Post by mcwilly »

What are peoples thoughts on these and which would you choose. Size is 33x10.5x15
Posts: 3513
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:52 am
Location: Perth, WA

Post by alien »

i'd go with the originals... the simex... and i did =) except in 31x10.5r15.. they measure closer to 32 though.
The worst thing about censorship is ███████.
Posts: 51
Joined: Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:38 am
Location: perth

Post by hooki »

i have some 31" silverstone extremes and they seem pretty decent. They seem to be really grippy on rock and have no problems in mud, they also dont seem to be showing many signs on wear after 5000kms. I can't make a comment about the simex because i have never used them but my friends have and they reckon they are a great tyre.
Posts: 117
Joined: Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:27 pm
Location: kerang vic

Post by PigDog »

used both in 35'' but prefer the silver stones seemed 2 have a bit better grip on the rocks
Posts: 428
Joined: Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:07 pm
Location: Newcastle NSW

Post by mnemonix »

Can't fault the silverstones. I've got 33's which measure 30".
'95 Maruti lwb, 1.6GTI, 6.5:1, locked F+R, SPOA on 33's.
Posts: 1889
Joined: Mon Sep 20, 2004 10:23 pm
Location: Brisbane

Post by just cruizin' »

I think the Silverstones have a better thread pattern/lug design and better rubber compound. That said though the sizes have to be looked at a 33 Simex is about the same as the 35 Silverstone.
;)
Posts: 377
Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:03 pm
Location: Perth

Post by VR Rodeo »

alien wrote:i'd go with the originals... the simex... and i did =) except in 31x10.5r15.. they measure closer to 32 though.
X2 except I have the 32x9.5 that measure 32.5 overall hieght. Most of the time they are at 5-6 psi without beadlocks and have only once come off the rim, when I hit a rut at speed.
'92 Rodeo - VR V6, T700, 31's
'89 Zook - 4 inch lift, 32's, 5.14 gears, RUF, F&R Lockrights, Rear Disconnect, Falcon/Landcruiser PS
Posts: 97
Joined: Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:18 pm
Location: NEWCASTLE

Post by mcwilly »

Sizes have been redone new silverstone is 32.7 for 33 or 34.7 for 35. Not sure if I'd fit a true 34.7 with spoa and 2" body
Posts: 428
Joined: Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:07 pm
Location: Newcastle NSW

Post by mnemonix »

Any idea when those sizes changed? I picked up a spare 33" ~6 weeks ago and it's still the same old ~30" measurement.
'95 Maruti lwb, 1.6GTI, 6.5:1, locked F+R, SPOA on 33's.
Posts: 3513
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:52 am
Location: Perth, WA

Post by alien »

what sucks abouts what silverstone did though - is that technically for engineering a vehicle you have to run the sized stated on the modification papers... now, if you were engineered to run 33's, but had to buy 35" silverstones to measure 33, legally, its a 35" tyre, cos thats what it says on the sidewall...

flip side though - you could buy the undersized tyres to get a larger size engineered - however if they ever measured your height again after you changed rubber you'd also be boned.
The worst thing about censorship is ███████.
Posts: 97
Joined: Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:18 pm
Location: NEWCASTLE

Post by mcwilly »

I'm not to worried about the engineering part as 31's can't be engineered in nsw. Hard part at the moment is making sure I get the tyres that measure 32.7 not 30. Or should I go 35's the measure 34
Posts: 3513
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:52 am
Location: Perth, WA

Post by alien »

or buy simex and know what you're getting =) haha
The worst thing about censorship is ███████.
Posts: 1213
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:25 pm
Location: SE Melbourne

Post by dank »

mcwilly wrote:Sizes have been redone new silverstone is 32.7 for 33 or 34.7 for 35. Not sure if I'd fit a true 34.7 with spoa and 2" body
You fit them easy. plenty of spring under cars with under 2" lift plus 2" body running 34 inch tyres.
Work - KPD4X4.COM - KPD Industries Australian Distributor of Diesel Power Modules - Germany.
Play - dank's zook
Posts: 97
Joined: Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:18 pm
Location: NEWCASTLE

Post by mcwilly »

This is a true measurement of 34.7 it's marked on the tyre as a 35. I think the 34's only measure a 33 or less. I ordered the 33's hopefully they are what I'm wanting. Didn't wanna spend the extra 100 a tyre for simex I decided.
Posts: 70
Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:42 pm
Location: Newcastle

Post by ZookiDave »

dank wrote:You fit them easy. plenty of spring under cars with under 2" lift plus 2" body running 34 inch tyres.
How big is the grinding disc they used to fit 34's on a zuk with only a spua 4'' lift?

I have spoa and 2" rockcrawler springs (about 6.5" total lift) running simex 32" pedes and i get a bit of rubber on gaurd action.
Posts: 3513
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:52 am
Location: Perth, WA

Post by alien »

chopping the guards can net you about 2" of virtual lift... i'd say he's done that
The worst thing about censorship is ███████.
Posts: 377
Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:03 pm
Location: Perth

Post by VR Rodeo »

ZookiDave wrote:
dank wrote:You fit them easy. plenty of spring under cars with under 2" lift plus 2" body running 34 inch tyres.
How big is the grinding disc they used to fit 34's on a zuk with only a spua 4'' lift?

I have spoa and 2" rockcrawler springs (about 6.5" total lift) running simex 32" pedes and i get a bit of rubber on gaurd action.
I've got just over 4 inches spring and shackle lift, sprung under and am running the 32" pedes with no rubbing what so ever. Front diff is almost 4 inches forward rear diff is 1 inch back and bumpstops are extended a few inches. Guards are cut around 1.5 inches.
'92 Rodeo - VR V6, T700, 31's
'89 Zook - 4 inch lift, 32's, 5.14 gears, RUF, F&R Lockrights, Rear Disconnect, Falcon/Landcruiser PS
Posts: 51
Joined: Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:38 am
Location: perth

Post by hooki »

i'm looking at chopping my gaurds....do you have any pictures VR Rodeo??'
VR Rodeo wrote:
ZookiDave wrote:
dank wrote:You fit them easy. plenty of spring under cars with under 2" lift plus 2" body running 34 inch tyres.
How big is the grinding disc they used to fit 34's on a zuk with only a spua 4'' lift?

I have spoa and 2" rockcrawler springs (about 6.5" total lift) running simex 32" pedes and i get a bit of rubber on gaurd action.
I've got just over 4 inches spring and shackle lift, sprung under and am running the 32" pedes with no rubbing what so ever. Front diff is almost 4 inches forward rear diff is 1 inch back and bumpstops are extended a few inches. Guards are cut around 1.5 inches.
Posts: 3098
Joined: Sat May 28, 2005 3:22 pm
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Post by PJ.zook »

I ran simex, good tyre, but truly shithouse grip on rocks n shale.
Motorized three seater couch buildup:

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic ... 0&t=196047
Posts: 2600
Joined: Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:40 pm
Location: Townsville

Post by GRPABT1 »

I run the simex's and I find them better on rock than all the radials I've had in the past. I think the silverstones are a bit grippier due to softer rubber but they wear alot faster. I daily drive my zook so that's why I went for the simex with the hard compound rubber.
Build Thread - http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=168546&p=1927514&hilit=GRPABT1%27s+zook#p1927514
Posts: 377
Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:03 pm
Location: Perth

Post by VR Rodeo »

hooki wrote:i'm looking at chopping my gaurds....do you have any pictures VR Rodeo??'
VR Rodeo wrote:
ZookiDave wrote:
dank wrote:You fit them easy. plenty of spring under cars with under 2" lift plus 2" body running 34 inch tyres.
How big is the grinding disc they used to fit 34's on a zuk with only a spua 4'' lift?

I have spoa and 2" rockcrawler springs (about 6.5" total lift) running simex 32" pedes and i get a bit of rubber on gaurd action.
I've got just over 4 inches spring and shackle lift, sprung under and am running the 32" pedes with no rubbing what so ever. Front diff is almost 4 inches forward rear diff is 1 inch back and bumpstops are extended a few inches. Guards are cut around 1.5 inches.
Baring in mind my diffs are 4 inches forward obviously I have cut more then you could get away with on a road vehicle, but a 1-2 inch cut should suffice, all I did was the dodgy 50 odd cuts, a big hammer and pop rivet the cut pieces back together. The first pic is about an inch off the bumpstops, the second pic is how they stand now.

Image
Image
PJ.zook wrote:I ran simex, good tyre, but truly shithouse grip on rocks n shale.
They work well enough on rock for me.

http://s92.photobucket.com/albums/l36/8 ... odyay2.flv
'92 Rodeo - VR V6, T700, 31's
'89 Zook - 4 inch lift, 32's, 5.14 gears, RUF, F&R Lockrights, Rear Disconnect, Falcon/Landcruiser PS
Posts: 97
Joined: Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:18 pm
Location: NEWCASTLE

Post by mcwilly »

Bit of an update I decided to go with the silverstones in a 33x10.5. This is where the fun began. They actually measure 34.5" diameter and close to 11" wide. This making then a fair chunk larger then the 32.7 I was expecting. Diff is forward an inch spoa and body lift and approx 2" bump stops. They only hit on the front near light bucket and near fire wall and flares. So I decided to get the big hammer out and after 2 days it's almost clering the guards. Next thing to look at is my superior drop shackles for rear and ruf. Longer shocks and hoops. So a spoa on pretty much 35s and body lift not bad for a daily driver LOL
Posts: 189
Joined: Sun May 18, 2008 11:41 am
Location: Anywhere

Post by lockdup »

Pics????
5.12, 34" SUPERSWAMPER, REAR AIR LOCKED
Posts: 1213
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:25 pm
Location: SE Melbourne

Post by dank »

ZookiDave wrote:
dank wrote:You fit them easy. plenty of spring under cars with under 2" lift plus 2" body running 34 inch tyres.
How big is the grinding disc they used to fit 34's on a zuk with only a spua 4'' lift?

I have spoa and 2" rockcrawler springs (about 6.5" total lift) running simex 32" pedes and i get a bit of rubber on gaurd action.
I've done some bumpstop extension and guard bashing and minor cutting to areas where it rubs.

it only has about 2 inchs of uptravel before it hits the bumps in the front and the diff is around 2 inch forward of stock
Work - KPD4X4.COM - KPD Industries Australian Distributor of Diesel Power Modules - Germany.
Play - dank's zook
Posts: 42
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am
Location: Toowoomba

Post by Green as Grass »

Any pics ?
Posts: 97
Joined: Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:18 pm
Location: NEWCASTLE

Post by mcwilly »

sorry the pics arent the best were just taken on my phone

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image
Posts: 189
Joined: Sun May 18, 2008 11:41 am
Location: Anywhere

Post by lockdup »

Looks tops mate
5.12, 34" SUPERSWAMPER, REAR AIR LOCKED
Posts: 97
Joined: Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:18 pm
Location: NEWCASTLE

Post by mcwilly »

Thanks I'm pretty happy with it. I think the biggest issue is the wheel offset being so large it puts the tyres closer to the guards. But all good now. Now for ruf and shock hoops.
Posts: 1663
Joined: Mon Nov 04, 2002 6:38 pm
Location: bethania QLD

Post by oozuk »

want33's has had both tires and said the simex's are s^*t compared to the silverstones
Trying to finish the Zook

OOZUK buildup
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic.php?t=80949
***KING OF BLING***
Posts: 696
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:07 pm
Location: Greenbank

Post by zookimal »

mcwilly wrote:Bit of an update I decided to go with the silverstones in a 33x10.5. This is where the fun began. They actually measure 34.5" diameter and close to 11" wide. This making then a fair chunk larger then the 32.7 I was expecting.
What measures what now? :?:

Silverstone 33s now measure big?
-Mal

Zook 1, 2, 3 gone
Patrol - Wheels, engine and stuff
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests