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1.3EFI GTI motor

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1.3EFI GTI motor

Post by dtzook »

thinkin bout putin in a 1.3 EFI in the zook, do they bolt sraight in? what fitting issues will there be e.g. dizzy?
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Post by 12uke »

You can pick up adaptors for the dizzy but do you really want too put a GTI in as they need too scream 4thou plus on the revs and if you want a 4by that work well off road you will be FLYING?????????????????????
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Post by dtzook »

wat would you recommend putting in? im looking for a cheap option $1000 max!!
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Post by moose »

waste of my 1000 post !!!! :shock: :shock:
vitara 1.6 !!!!
or just rockhopper the 1.3 !!!!! :finger: :finger: :finger:
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Post by dtzook »

i've got a rockhopper coming, but i want to go efi for the relaibilty and the ability for it to operate on any angle and not starve for fuel!! with the 1.3 and 1.6 will they dircectly bolt up to the sierra g/box or is there an adaptor?
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Post by moose »

if you just want EFI , jimny motor bolts in !!!(I think !!!)
some one has done it !!! but cant remeber who !!!
theoldman maybe ????
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Post by dtzook »

thanxs for the help so far moose and 12uke
wat mods have to be dont to make the 1.3efi bolt up to the gearbox such as an adaptor plate or is there a kit? i need all the info i can get so i make the cheapest and best decision!!!
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Post by N*A*M »

the cheapest and best decision depends on if you can get a bargain or not.

i got 2 rangie 3.5 v8s for $450 complete so that's what i went with. certainly not a standard conversion but anything is possible.

if you've got a line onto an engine and the price is right, GO FOR IT. more power is good. 8)

lpg can be run with a carby and doesn't stall on angles.
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ehehe just keep your foot on the loud pedal :oops:
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Post by thaoldman »

Dtzook, yes the 1.3L EFI out of the jimny bolts straight in, no adaptors required at all. However u would be pretty lucky to get one for under $1000.
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Post by moose »

knew it was you !!!!
I knew someone haad done it !!!!
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god , im good !!!!! :finger: :finger: :finger:
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Post by robbie »

moose wrote:knew it was you !!!!
I knew someone haad done it !!!!
"pats self on back "

god , im good !!!!! :finger: :finger: :finger:


not as good as me biatch!! :finger: :finger:
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Post by Peter »

Am putting gti motor in my 88 swb zook the mods i know of are the right angle dizzy adapter,changing the top inlet for the radiator, wiring in the computer etc,might need a body lift to fit the engine under the bonnet.If anybody has more details let me now as it would help me when i drop mine in.Oh youll need a high pressure fuel pump as well to feed the fuel injection.cheers! :)
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Post by SAWZALL »

Bump

Giving this some thought.

Benefits:
Bolts in
injection
cheap
more power
better engine braking
injection
more torque
injection

Problems:
ahmm...I aint got one
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Post by Beastmavster »

N*A*M wrote:the cheapest and best decision depends on if you can get a bargain or not.

i got 2 rangie 3.5 v8s for $450 complete so that's what i went with. certainly not a standard conversion but anything is possible.

if you've got a line onto an engine and the price is right, GO FOR IT. more power is good. 8)

lpg can be run with a carby and doesn't stall on angles.


How'd you go fitting the 3.5V8 under the bonnet?
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Post by Guy »

uphiir wrote:Bump

Giving this some thought.

Benefits:
Bolts in
injection
cheap
more power
better engine braking
injection
more torque
injection

Problems:
ahmm...I aint got one


Also the GTI motor is supposedly tougher than even the 1.3 .. the pistons have oil sprays under them, the crank is tougher (not that normal Zuk cranks are known to break) the conrods are stronger etc .. They can alos sustain high revs for an extended period. Also the other thing is that the GTI computer can be chipped to allow cam mods etc or even forced induction if you feel the need.
You do need to be a bit more careful with the timing belt tho as from memory they are an interfearance motor, so ifa belt goes at full noise in a bog hole .. it becomes a big alloy lump of rubbish ...
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Post by Dozoor »

Kermit has been running them for years, If you have a motor with a perticular power curve and gear the vehicle to suit then it can work well.
I think a lot of guys where put off the motor because of conversions previous to rockhoppers , Without gearing these things would be a bit of a night mare, With gearing i think it would be fine .
Injection is good for angles ect but a couple of things could be a pita , if
you havn't got super low gearing and have a habit of getting below idle revs you could find the knock sensor shutting you down prematurley.
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Post by Guy »

Dozoor wrote:Kermit has been running them for years, If you have a motor with a perticular power curve and gear the vehicle to suit then it can work well.
I think a lot of guys where put off the motor because of conversions previous to rockhoppers , Without gearing these things would be a bit of a night mare, With gearing i think it would be fine .
Injection is good for angles ect but a couple of things could be a pita , if
you havn't got super low gearing and have a habit of getting below idle revs you could find the knock sensor shutting you down prematurley.


As Gerg runs a motor almost litterally half this size to pretty reasonable effect with the correct gearing for the engines power curve (6:1 hopper and 5.13's with stuff all vehicle weight) I would say it can be made work very well ...
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Post by greg »

Yep - it's all about the gearing fellas :cool:

My monster engine works a treat - and the whole car seems to perform very nicely due to its low gearing and the fact that the car is very light.

I tend to drive most tricky sections in the car at between 1000 and 2000rpm - which is still pretty slow in the car :cool:

However, definately if it wasn't running so much gearing it would be pretty crap to drive - just like running a 1.3L sierra engine with bigger tyres i guess.
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Post by zuker1500 »

I have the gti engine in mine and have had for sometime now and i am also running a rockhopper.

I ditched the 1300 block in favour for an imported 1500 block and it was a little better.

Now its turbo charged so its pretty god.

Although, if i went to do it all over again i would go for a vitara 16v 1600 efi engine. The gti engine is all about revs and the vitara engine is all about torque.

The gti is terrible on the highway cause of this lack of torque and also uses heaps of fuel for a worse result that a vitara 1600.

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Post by Dozoor »

So Zuker 1500 , Yours is the import one --- Does this block have the same bolt pattern on the rear as the 1.3 or the 1.6 ?

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Post by zuker1500 »

Its the import 1500 one and well it bolted up to the gearbox using one of those flash adaptor kits so i would have to say 1600 block would be the same.

Was a reasonably easy install, same mods a fitting a 1600

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Post by Peter »

Hey guys, do any of you know were i can pick up the dizzy adapter for the 1300 gti twin cam.Want to drop it in my zook and cant find them anywere.Thanks.
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Post by Peter »

Thanks for the info xtreem
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Post by SAWZALL »

Wahoo!!! Got hold of a fully rebuilt GTi motor today for the grand sum of $50!!!!

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