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Taifun TAT

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Post by TaifunOffroad »

In October 2009 we started the construction of two extreme offroad cars. We’ll try to post pictures in various stages of the execution. The two cars are similar but not identical. One of them has Volvo portal axles and the other one normal axles(back HDJ80 with front Y60). In terms of tehnical data, they are equipped with 4000cc, 286hp,V8 BMW engines, manual gearboxes, 38.5/11/16 Bogger wheels, Race Runner Remote Coil-Over suspension 14” front and 16” back, duble winches 8274 with duble blockers. The car’s total height is1820mm, wheelbase is 2650mm, as for their weight, one reaches 1350kg(without the fuel but with all the other liquids included).

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Post by oozuk »

awesome workmanship, can't wait to see more pic's :cool:
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Post by bad_religion_au »

awesome, i'll be watching this build.

any reason you start with RHS chassis instead of making it all round tube?
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Post by v840 »

You guys get my vote for cleanest workshop evar!

What transfer cases are you running behind the Beemer V8?

Will be watching for sure, great start. :cool:
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Post by coxy321 »

Best first post i've ever seen - way to start off!!!

The work sounds and looks top quality - keep the pics coming!!
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Post by Gabriel »

Hy guys,

Well, the cars you see are designed and engineered by me. I'm a member of this forum since...a lot of years...;p-)).

I've started in 2000 with an Y60, which in meantime change in such a way that is not a Nissan anymore...but this is another story!

So, the cars: today we just mocked-up the engine, G/B and the T/case. Which, to answer the question, is a Mercedes G 463 (permanent 4x4), divorced (as you already know.;-)).

The general idea of the cars is to be able to compete in our off road competitions, which are an amalgam of rockcrawling, mudd bogging, baja races and winching. So, after 10 years of modifying cars this are the dimensions, tires, winches, etc that I consider appropriate for this kind of races. In few words: rally raid engineering and technology applied for extreme off roading!

Thank you all for the good words and we hope to do not disappointe you!

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Post by RN »

No Miss Romania posters on the workshop walls??

What's going on?
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Post by Gabriel »

bad_religion_au wrote:awesome, i'll be watching this build.

any reason you start with RHS chassis instead of making it all round tube?
Well, as I said: after a lot of years I learned to learn from others, mainly because I spent a lot of money doing mistakes. This structure is not my invention, but it has been done previously by the VW Race Touareg for the Dakar (btw, we are the first romanians ever registered to compete in the Dakar, cars category;-). The reason is simple and effective: when you build a car from scratch, the most important thing is to be sure that the base, or the arms fits, are square and right. By experience I know (and seems that VW knows also...) that to get a structure right is much easier and with a far better result if you start with a rectangular tube instead of round. All the rest of the structure is with round tube, a special alloy ordered by us to a big factory here in Romania. This material exceed with 90% the FIA regulations for the structures, saving in the same time 20% of the weight.

Will come back with more pictures today!

thanks for looking,

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Post by Gabriel »

RN wrote:No Miss Romania posters on the workshop walls??

What's going on?
;-)))) Well, not! I hate this kind of posters, especially in our shop. But I don't hate Miss Romania!!! At all!;-))
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Post by TaifunOffroad »

We thought you shoudn’t wait any longer so, here is another set of photos that we made.


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Post by FKT08 »

Looks like top quality work. Keep us posted, will love to see the end product. :armsup:
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Post by nottie »

What a breath of fresh air seeing something that damn cool that is not from America
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Post by bad_religion_au »

Gabriel wrote:
bad_religion_au wrote:awesome, i'll be watching this build.

any reason you start with RHS chassis instead of making it all round tube?
Well, as I said:

thanks for looking,

Gabi Nicolae
Makes sense to me now! good to see a good idea that's outside what we see all the time! thanks for the reply.
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Post by RED60 »

While the workmanship looks schmick, I'm not sure I'm happy with a clean floor, no hooter posters or "brand" names on anything........... mmm I say something wicked this way comes.........
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Post by TaifunOffroad »

And some more pictures:

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Post by chunks »

Very nice, and awesome looking workshop!
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Subscribed. :D

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Will be checking this thread often. :armsup:
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Post by RN »

Gabriel wrote:
RN wrote:No Miss Romania posters on the workshop walls??

What's going on?
;-)))) Well, not! I hate this kind of posters, especially in our shop. But I don't hate Miss Romania!!! At all!;-))
I don't hate her either. :armsup:

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Post by MightyMouse »

VERY, VERY impressive.

It something that most of us dream about but few have the knowledge / facilities / money and sheer patience required to build things to this standard.

I'm looking forward to seeing more of the build.
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It seemed like a much better idea when I started it than it does now.
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Post by TaifunOffroad »

Here are some pictures with welds - made with a MIG Welding Equipment.
The both space frames are ready and we are in the process of welding together.
Also you can see the g/box and t/case cross member.
The ACAD file is one of the t/case supports that bolts to the cross member.

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Post by DamTriton »

RN wrote:
Gabriel wrote:
RN wrote:No Miss Romania posters on the workshop walls??

What's going on?
;-)))) Well, not! I hate this kind of posters, especially in our shop. But I don't hate Miss Romania!!! At all!;-))
I don't hate her either. :armsup:

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MightyMouse wrote:VERY, VERY impressive.

It something that most of us dream about but few have the knowledge / facilities / money and sheer patience required to build things to this standard.

I'm looking forward to seeing more of the build.
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I think shes pretty close to finished :D and I don't think you wil see much more of the "build".

Maintanance is always the costly bit though ;)

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Post by coxy321 »

Camel Toe anyone?

Have you guys done simulated tests on the stress/load on that support junction? It'd be interesting to see what sort of stress is there with seven points coming to one.

Super neat weld job by the way!

More pics :armsup:
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Post by chimpboy »

Sometimes I say to myself, "sure, my car is cool... but what would Count Dracula drive?"

Now we know :)
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Post by MightyMouse »

Welding looks like TIG not MIG to my very inexperienced eye.....

I would have expected TIG with the mention of alloy steel earlier on.
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Post by Gabriel »

MightyMouse wrote:Welding looks like TIG not MIG to my very inexperienced eye.....

I would have expected TIG with the mention of alloy steel earlier on.
Hello,

Sorry, it was our "internet - IT" guy who made the confusions... Of course it is TIG, with a specific alloy wire. But, you know, the IT and building cars do not have a close relationship...;-)))

Thanks for looking,

Gabi

PS: the Dracula staff...nice ;-))
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Post by Gabriel »

coxy321 wrote:Camel Toe anyone?

Have you guys done simulated tests on the stress/load on that support junction? It'd be interesting to see what sort of stress is there with seven points coming to one.

Super neat weld job by the way!

More pics :armsup:
Yes, we used a program (I can't tell you the program name because then I would have to shoot you ;-))) in order to simulate the loads and more important the effort dissipation in case of roll over (I know, its not good, but you can expect tis kind of accident). The first results was great, and because of that we mounted some more triangulated bars then in the first drawings. Anyway... We will see if the theory matches the real life in april, when the cars must race.

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Post by awill4x4 »

Gabi. Do you have any specs on the tubing and welding filler wire you can share?
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Post by KiwiBacon »

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Post by TaifunOffroad »

Some more pictures of the actual status. We just took out of the jig the first car and moved it to the mounting facility. We started building the fiber glass windscreen surrounding area and so on. Also you can see some design drafts.

Thanks for looking.


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Post by coxy321 »

Jeez that workshop is tidy! You guys even have special white outfits for visitors! (joke).

The drafts look like a Raid Rally type vehicle.

Good work - keep the photos coming!!
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