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rancho or toughdog?

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rancho or toughdog?

Post by luk3y »

which adjustable shocks are the better ones?
the toughdog ones or the rancho 9000's
for a 60 series with 3 inch leaves and gonna get 2 inch extended shackles
and what size would be best?
thanks guys.
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Post by money_killer »

of late people will say no to TD's
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Post by bogged »

Koni or OME.
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Post by tufflux88 »

bogged wrote:Koni or OME.
another wanker comment.
he wants tough dog or rancho.can you read?
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Post by beinthemud »

Id pick Rancho only because if seen toughdogs be worse than Ironman and haven't heard anything bad about rancho's
Hows Bogged a wanker for posting that more like a wanker commented on his post.
Looks to me Bogged just said he wouldn't put eather


Oh maybe Rancho's are good rockcrawlers not mud or 4x4track shocks
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Post by v840 »

tufflux88 wrote:
bogged wrote:Koni or OME.
another wanker comment.
he wants tough dog or rancho.can you read?
Reading between the lines, I think the two post above yours are saying that TD and Ranchos have somewhat dubious reputations as quality products. Have a browse through this forum and read some reviews.

Out of the two I'd go Rancho. No real reason other than I've had them before and they worked ok.
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Post by bogged »

tufflux88 wrote:
bogged wrote:Koni or OME.
another wanker comment.
he wants tough dog or rancho.can you read?
Sorry Mr Expert, I bow in your awesomeness... Still aching from being owned the other day sweety? Anyone with 1/2 a clue - which would exclude you and your awesome successful hardcore 4wd accessory making business with only SELECT customers, would know what it meant. Probalby a tad confusing for u.
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Re: rancho or toughdog?

Post by joeblow »

luk3y wrote:which adjustable shocks are the better ones?
the toughdog ones or the rancho 9000's
for a 60 series with 3 inch leaves and gonna get 2 inch extended shackles
and what size would be best?
thanks guys.

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Post by beinthemud »

bogged wrote:
tufflux88 wrote:
bogged wrote:Koni or OME.
another wanker comment.
he wants tough dog or rancho.can you read?
Sorry Mr Expert, I bow in your awesomeness... Still aching from being owned the other day sweety? Anyone with 1/2 a clue - which would exclude you and your awesome successful hardcore 4wd accessory making business with only SELECT customers, would know what it meant. Probalby a tad confusing for u.
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Post by Gwagensteve »

The bigger question is why you think you want adjustable shocks. I've built cars with Ranchos and run Ranchos on my Gwagen, even dynoing them to prove they'd work, but really, the adjustability is a gimmick.

Honestly. I gave up on adjusting them after a while, nothing other than the settings I dynoed the shocks at to match the factory shock ratings worked.

As per Bogged, Koni, OME or maybe Bilstein.

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Post by Gwagensteve »

The bigger question is why you think you want adjustable shocks. I've built cars with Ranchos and run Ranchos on my Gwagen, even dynoing them to prove they'd work, but really, the adjustability is a gimmick.

Honestly. I gave up on adjusting them after a while, nothing other than the settings I dynoed the shocks at to match the factory shock ratings worked.

As per Bogged, Koni, OME or maybe Bilstein.

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Post by beinthemud »

Wow he was right when he said


Sorry Mr Expert, I bow in your awesomeness... Still aching from being owned the other day sweety? Anyone with 1/2 a clue - which would exclude you and your awesome successful hardcore 4wd accessory making business with only SELECT customers, would know what it meant. Probalby a tad confusing for
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Post by gu town »

in my experience neither. as said above adjustables are a gimmik.

i've just gone from TD to EFS from suspension stuff. so far they are working for me, less fade more control IMO

if these ones dont work down the track i will be looking at something with remote reserviors in the belief of more capacity, less heat, less fade, less wear and tear.
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Post by beinthemud »

carefull tufflux dosen't like anything mentioned but Ranchos or toughdog

I've had Toughdog shocks (were ok standard springs) on when brought
Ironcrap (who bagged toughdog to me)
,spicers springwork all fark it up
I now have EFS from Carrols spring work get it right so thats me.
was considering Rancho's but my understanding there one of the best rockcrawlers suspension wich to me is no good as i love mud
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Post by gu town »

beinthemud wrote:[


carefull tufflux dosen't like anything mentioned but Ranchos or toughdog
:rofl: i thought that owner operator call was a bit gruff. previous lovers tiff? must have missed that one.
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Post by bogged »

beinthemud wrote:Sorry Bogged I own you
Don't you try calling him a wanker and clam it as I clearly did it first
Im new at this 4wd forum gig.
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Re: rancho or toughdog?

Post by TUFFRANGIE »

luk3y wrote:which adjustable shocks are the better ones?
the toughdog ones or the rancho 9000's
for a 60 series with 3 inch leaves and gonna get 2 inch extended shackles
and what size would be best?
thanks guys.
I would prefer a stick, as above choose Koni or the new OME, Bilstein aren't as good as they used to be either.
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Post by beinthemud »

bogged wrote:
beinthemud wrote:Sorry Bogged I own you
Don't you try calling him a wanker and clam it as I clearly did it first
Im new at this 4wd forum gig.

Lesson learned then :finger:
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Post by DUDELUX »

beinthemud wrote:
bogged wrote:
beinthemud wrote:Sorry Bogged I own you
Don't you try calling him a wanker and clam it as I clearly did it first
Im new at this 4wd forum gig.

Lesson learned then :finger:
:lol:
Damn noobs. :finger: :finger: :D
On topic, I wouldnt choose either as they both have quality issues, theres multiple threads on both, as posted above.
Id go with EFS as they are aussie made(I think), and they are higher quality.
Ive also heard that Raw4x4 is ok as well.
Ive only used EFS on my old 4runner and was really happy with it.
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Post by joeblow »

DUDELUX wrote: Id go with EFS as they are aussie made
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Post by NQCalais »

Apparently you can get an OME Sport for the 60 series now, but I dunno about using them with a 3 inch spring AND an extended shackle. I'm looking at the same for my 60 shortly.
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Re: rancho or toughdog?

Post by chunks »

TUFFRANGIE wrote:
luk3y wrote:which adjustable shocks are the better ones?
the toughdog ones or the rancho 9000's
for a 60 series with 3 inch leaves and gonna get 2 inch extended shackles
and what size would be best?
thanks guys.
I would prefer a stick, as above choose Koni or the new OME, Bilstein aren't as good as they used to be either.
How so?

And how the fark does OME always end up in the same league as Koni and Bilstein? They aren't in the same price range nor quality.
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Post by chunks »

joeblow wrote:
DUDELUX wrote: Id go with EFS as they are aussie made
nope!
Only the springs, shocks are made offshore like 99% of other brands.
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Re: rancho or toughdog?

Post by bogged »

chunks wrote:And how the fark does OME always end up in the same league as Koni and Bilstein? They aren't in the same price range nor quality.
Do they have to be in the same price range to be same quality?? Or can they cost less and be almost as = quality, ending up better value overall?
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Re: rancho or toughdog?

Post by chunks »

bogged wrote:
chunks wrote:And how the fark does OME always end up in the same league as Koni and Bilstein? They aren't in the same price range nor quality.
Do they have to be in the same price range to be same quality?? Or can they cost less and be almost as = quality, ending up better value overall?
No they don't have to be in the same price range, but generally you get what you pay for. I can't see how they are the same (or similar) quality to Koni or Bilstein, you only have to hold them both in your hands and compare the build quality.
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Re: rancho or toughdog?

Post by bogged »

chunks wrote:
bogged wrote:
chunks wrote:And how the fark does OME always end up in the same league as Koni and Bilstein? They aren't in the same price range nor quality.
Do they have to be in the same price range to be same quality?? Or can they cost less and be almost as = quality, ending up better value overall?
No they don't have to be in the same price range, but generally you get what you pay for. I can't see how they are the same (or similar) quality to Koni or Bilstein, you only have to hold them both in your hands and compare the build quality.
Go and try a set... may suprise yourself... just replaced 82's on my GU with OME's. had OME's on the GQ which replaced rancho...
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Post by cooki_monsta »

my honnest opinion is that adjustability is pure wank factor, i had toughdogs for 2 years, i now have 3 toughdogs and one in 2 pieces thanks to the piston missing a tac weld so it unscrewed itself and seperated.

i have also heard bad storys of rancho, and seeing as how iirc they come from the same factory, id be steering clear of both, i have heard of ranchos splitting at eyelets etc.

so i would be leaning towards efs elite, koni 88's or if your on a tighter budget ironman foamcell shocks, they cant be beaten for pure value for money
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Re: rancho or toughdog?

Post by beinthemud »

chunks wrote:
TUFFRANGIE wrote:
luk3y wrote:which adjustable shocks are the better ones?
the toughdog ones or the rancho 9000's
for a 60 series with 3 inch leaves and gonna get 2 inch extended shackles
and what size would be best?
thanks guys.
I would prefer a stick, as above choose Koni or the new OME, Bilstein aren't as good as they used to be either.
How so?

And how the fark does OME always end up in the same league as Koni and Bilstein? They aren't in the same price range nor quality.

A fair few of OME tend to be KYB
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Post by Gwagensteve »

Really? which OME?

My understanding was that OME are made by Tenneco Automotive.

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