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Post by treedemo »

i have a 1990 swb maverick, have put in a 308 red holden motor using marks adapters kit, it uses way less fuel therefore less emissions? does anyone have any ideas or know anyone who can help me comply this as it is my baby and iv spent lotsa money and time on it? the whole car is pretty tidy and not too agressive, is on 33s now also.

any help would be really appreciated

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Post by Matt_85Lux »

where are you located? that will help get some answers
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Post by its aford not a nissan »

i think under his avatar it says qld , so my guess is no chance of legally getting it on the road as is

and useing less fuel doesnt mean less emissions , it means it uses less fuel , a 6 liter v8 could produce less emissions than a 3 cyl charade
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Post by love ke70 »

what year is the motor? obviously before 1990 yes?

so that creates a drama in itself.
have you spoken to qld transport about it?

an option may be to put it on gas, its like waving a white flag and shouting diplomatic immunity.
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Post by RAY185 »

its aford not a nissan wrote:i think under his avatar it says qld , so my guess is no chance of legally getting it on the road as is
Apart from the tyres I can't see any issues going on the info provided. Am I missing something?

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Post by tassie wombat »

not sure if qld is the same as tassie,but down here the engine must be newer than the vehicle. i.e. engine produced in 1985 cant be legally fitted to a 1990 model vehicle. and 33"s are the largest legal size tyres for a gq down here as well.
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Post by money_killer »

tassie wombat wrote:not sure if qld is the same as tassie,but down here the engine must be newer than the vehicle. i.e. engine produced in 1985 cant be legally fitted to a 1990 model vehicle. and 33"s are the largest legal size tyres for a gq down here as well.
x2 pretty sure thats how it is
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Post by love ke70 »

that is how it is up here. im not sure, but i think if you run lpg you can get away with it, would have to ask DOT though...
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Post by Nat84 »

tassie wombat wrote:not sure if qld is the same as tassie,but down here the engine must be newer than the vehicle. i.e. engine produced in 1985 cant be legally fitted to a 1990 model vehicle. and 33"s are the largest legal size tyres for a gq down here as well.
i think thats the same as NSW if the engine is older then the car its going into it has to run on LPG
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Post by Matt_85Lux »

its aford not a nissan wrote:i think under his avatar it says qld , so my guess is no chance of legally getting it on the road as is

and useing less fuel doesnt mean less emissions , it means it uses less fuel , a 6 liter v8 could produce less emissions than a 3 cyl charade
But where in QLD, no point sending him somewhere in Brisbane for advice if he lives in Cairns is it?
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Post by its aford not a nissan »

the motor being too old and the tyres and the lift will be the issue in QLD
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Post by its aford not a nissan »

Matt_85Lux wrote:
its aford not a nissan wrote:i think under his avatar it says qld , so my guess is no chance of legally getting it on the road as is

and useing less fuel doesnt mean less emissions , it means it uses less fuel , a 6 liter v8 could produce less emissions than a 3 cyl charade
But where in QLD, no point sending him somewhere in Brisbane for advice if he lives in Cairns is it?

i wouldnt think to send him any where in QLD as the rules are the same every where in QLD , to keep it legal , unfortunatly , he is out of luck as it is

run it on gas , fit smaller tyres , and drop it to 2 inch max lift and he should be able to get passed ,

the way im looking at it is , whats the point getting a mod plate if the rest of the car isnt roadworthy in QLD
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Post by treedemo »

thanx for input guys, dont know what year th motor is?...i live in mt cotton brisbane, iv heard about gettn a different manifold...pollution manifold? and hookn up egr? stuff...not sure. any other help or offers to buy would be appreciated
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Post by Matt_85Lux »

its aford not a nissan wrote:
Matt_85Lux wrote:
its aford not a nissan wrote:i think under his avatar it says qld , so my guess is no chance of legally getting it on the road as is

and useing less fuel doesnt mean less emissions , it means it uses less fuel , a 6 liter v8 could produce less emissions than a 3 cyl charade
But where in QLD, no point sending him somewhere in Brisbane for advice if he lives in Cairns is it?

i wouldnt think to send him any where in QLD as the rules are the same every where in QLD , to keep it legal , unfortunatly , he is out of luck as it is

run it on gas , fit smaller tyres , and drop it to 2 inch max lift and he should be able to get passed ,

the way im looking at it is , whats the point getting a mod plate if the rest of the car isnt roadworthy in QLD
What I'm getting at is if he wants to keep it legal and find out exactly what will and won't be signed off on by talking to the person that will sign off on it would be helpful to now where in qld he is so someone can reccomend soemwhere to go and find out all the ins and outs of it all.

Because alot of the times on a forum one person will say one thing while another will say something to the contrary, but if he speaks directly to someone that will eventually do the mod plate he'll know exactly what needs to be done to get the car to comply with everything
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Post by treedemo »

QUOTE! "the way im looking at it is , whats the point getting a mod plate if the rest of the car isnt roadworthy in QLD"

thanx, its just that the lift and tyres r the easy part to change, the motor isnt thats why im just keen on help for that at the mo
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Post by chunderlicious »

the actual rule is that the motor must comply or be better than the original engines emissions. i.e. an 89 patrol carby has a charcoal canister and exhaust recirc or whatever it is. therefore the 308 has to have the same.

this is from calling QT, 3 mod platers and an engineer so if its wrong then there is a few illegal cars which are complianced out there.
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Post by BEEPJEEP »

Run it on 100% lpg and put smaller tyres on.
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Post by TWISTY »

chunderlicious wrote:the actual rule is that the motor must comply or be better than the original engines emissions. i.e. an 89 patrol carby has a charcoal canister and exhaust recirc or whatever it is. therefore the 308 has to have the same.

this is from calling QT, 3 mod platers and an engineer so if its wrong then there is a few illegal cars which are complianced out there.
Agree! If you had a carby petrol in it, and have fitted a carby petrol motor and are using all of the emissions from both motors (ie. the best of which ever setup), than there will be no dramas getting that plated (if everything else is neat, tidy, strong etc).

Plater shouldn't care what tyres/lift you have, but would run something legal into DOT when you get the engine numbers swapped over as they will come out and check. Went through all of the above when dropping the lexus into my 4runner (91 motor, 94 4runner).
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Post by its aford not a nissan »

treedemo wrote:QUOTE! "the way im looking at it is , whats the point getting a mod plate if the rest of the car isnt roadworthy in QLD"

thanx, its just that the lift and tyres r the easy part to change, the motor isnt thats why im just keen on help for that at the mo
i just figured because it is your baby and you spent lots of money on it then you would be reluctant to change anything back

the QLD DOT should have all the regs on there site and to get anything mod plated it has to meet the written criteria , just putting on some anti pollution gear may not be enough
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Post by strom80 »

I had no trouble with 79 clevland into an 82 cruiser. Just had to put 82 onwards emission parts on and every thing was fine. Of coarse all of that was gone 5 minutes later.
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Post by nerida67 »

pritty sure the emmision gear must be for the newer year
IE if the cars a 92 model then the motor must comply to 92 emmisions
if the motor is newer then the car must have the new emmision gear for the motor
so a carb 308 will have to have the emmisionn gear that the gq would have
hence why alot run straight gas on carb motors or efi
dont know who approves them , i suppose GOOGLE would be your friend
and yes id be ringing people that do approve them and find out the RIGHT way
but as said they mite approve the engine conversion ,but if the high lifts arent legal they wont approve that
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Post by 5inchgq »

chunderlicious wrote:the actual rule is that the motor must comply or be better than the original engines emissions. i.e. an 89 patrol carby has a charcoal canister and exhaust recirc or whatever it is. therefore the 308 has to have the same.

this is from calling QT, 3 mod platers and an engineer so if its wrong then there is a few illegal cars which are complianced out there.
easy (but not cheap way to do it ) is fit VN heads and induction brings the emissions up to at least 1989 spec :armsup:
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Post by Kitika »

In W.A. if you have a performance motor with anything other than standard you have to get it emission tested so it reaches the same emission standards of your year car. Dunno if you have the same tests over there?
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Post by Wozza244 »

Nice Krawlers, how much for the 33"
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