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Custom front bar - 150PFC

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Post by joeblow »

:shock: ..........why 10mm?
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Post by Moph »

joeblow wrote::shock: ..........why 10mm?
10mm for the mounts? Cos that's what I had handy and it gives a solid mount for recovery points.

10mm flange thickness for the PFC? Cos that's what ya get when you buy a 150 PFC.
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Post by 31zook »

Your bar is only as strong as the mounting point....
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Post by Moph »

31zook wrote:Your bar is only as strong as the mounting point....
Yep - but if something fails during a recovery, I'd rather that the bullbar pulled off the chassis than that my recovery hook pulled off the mount. One could be lethal, the other won't.

Again - 10mm was what I had handy. For the sake of 1.5kg difference vs 6mm plate, does it really make a difference? Sheesh, I'm not doing a production run of the things....
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Post by alien »

i agree with everyone else - you should start again.
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Post by Moph »

alien wrote:i agree with everyone else - you should start again.
:finger: :D

Actually looking at some of the welds I probably should... :oops:
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Post by joeblow »

Moph wrote:
31zook wrote:Your bar is only as strong as the mounting point....
Yep - but if something fails during a recovery, I'd rather that the bullbar pulled off the chassis than that my recovery hook pulled off the mount. One could be lethal, the other won't.

Again - 10mm was what I had handy. For the sake of 1.5kg difference vs 6mm plate, does it really make a difference? Sheesh, I'm not doing a production run of the things....

i was thinking an impact in the opposite direction.
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Post by Moph »

joeblow wrote:i was thinking an impact in the opposite direction.
Good point. Well in that case I guess it'll either work really, really well or result in a really, really bent chassis! :D

It's just a toy - it'll be safe enough to drive, strong enough to nudge with and provide a good spot to bolt my lights and aerials. That'll do me. ;)
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Post by joeblow »

Moph wrote:
joeblow wrote:i was thinking an impact in the opposite direction.
Good point. Well in that case I guess it'll either work really, really well or result in a really, really bent chassis! :D

It's just a toy - it'll be safe enough to drive, strong enough to nudge with and provide a good spot to bolt my lights and aerials. That'll do me. ;)
you're bar will still be straight but! :D
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Post by Moph »

Well finally got my butt into gear and got it (almost) finished. It's now in primer - still needs a few holes drilled for mounts and spotties and a lick of bog before it gets painted, but its 95% there. Pretty pleased with how it turned out! Never trying another one though ... I'm just too slow at this kind of stuff.

Now - matte black, satin black or gloss black?

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Post by alien »

about 2 or 3 cans of gloss white rust guard will do it =) body coloured bars always look better!
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Post by zook4fun »

so how much does it weigh?
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Post by Turbo Tonka »

looks good dude :cool: has come up pretty tidy.So are there plan for outside hoops for a bit of body protection like a ARB bar or will that just interfere more with indicators etc?
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Post by Moph »

Nah definitely going black alien - can't imagine it looking right in white, especially when it won't colour match the Zook and will have large black spotties fitted.

Weighs 33.8kg ... its flamin' heavy. Would have been smarter to cut the entire thing out of 4mm plate in retrospect.

Not planning on hoops. I like the look as is, don't have any way of bending tube and don't intend pushing it hard enough to roll it. I'm soft :P
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Post by alien »

fit it to the car dude - take a pic and ill photoshop the white/black options for you =)
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Post by ca18zook »

Here is the custom bars that i make up.
Made from 2 mm mild steel and flat sheetmetal thats has been folded to shape. 60mm tube for the crossover pipes and mounted to the chassie with 3mm mild steel.

As said before, why make it so thick and heavy. If u hit something u are going to do more harm than good to the car.

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^^^ EWWWWWWWW!!!
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Post by Moph »

ca18zook wrote:Here is the custom bars that i make up.
Made from 2 mm mild steel and flat sheetmetal thats has been folded to shape. 60mm tube for the crossover pipes and mounted to the chassie with 3mm mild steel.

As said before, why make it so thick and heavy. If u hit something u are going to do more harm than good to the car.
It's big and heavy but I made it. For me that is a real achievement :D

To answer your question, I don't have a press to bend sheet metal, I don't have a tube bender, and I don't have room or money at the moment for either. I also can't weld anything under about 5mm steel without blowing big chunks out of it :lol: You work with what you've got and can do. For me at the moment that's slim pickings.

Pics fitted to car tomorrow Alien - got the rest of the RUF hangers on tonight ready for springs tomorrow (paint's drying) and gave the bar its final bog and sand. Another lick of primer tomorrow and I'll fit it up.
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Moph wrote:(paint's drying).
Your build is like watching paint dry =) lol
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Post by joeblow »

alien wrote:^^^ EWWWWWWWW!!!
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Post by Moph »

alien wrote:
Moph wrote:(paint's drying).
Your build is like watching paint dry =) lol
You're right. I should have just got SuziStore to build mine! :finger: :D :P
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joeblow wrote:
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Moph wrote:
alien wrote:
Moph wrote:(paint's drying).
Your build is like watching paint dry =) lol
You're right. I should have just got SuziStore to build mine! :finger: :D :P
...you win.

That and my build took 2.5 years =)
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Post by Moph »

Here ya go Aron ... let me know if you want bigger pics and I'll email them to ya. The slight droop on the right hand side of the bar closes up once the mount bolts are tightened.


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Post by ca18zook »

So should i make a few of these up or what.?

There powercoated gloss black and to suit a 2 inc body lift. They took some time to get the first one looking right but after that i have a template for the bars.

Mate was havent a go at u just making a coment like everyone else.
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Post by Gutless »

ca18zook wrote:So should i make a few of these up or what.?

There powercoated gloss black and to suit a 2 inc body lift. They took some time to get the first one looking right but after that i have a template for the bars.

Mate was havent a go at u just making a coment like everyone else.
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The lower half of your bar looks good, but the upper half looks ridiculous. Its way too big for a sierra. If you used the next size down tube, made the top bar 200mm lower, and leaned it back 10 degrees it would look a million times better. And it definately needs tighter radius bends, not that long radius shit. A sierra has a square front end. Try and compliment its original design.

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Post by ca18zook »

Only reason i went that tall is so the bonnet has some protection and makes it easyer to see where the front of the car is. In the real it looks ok as it only sites up the thickness of the bar above the bonnet. The pic is more looking up at the bar so it looks a lot more.
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Post by alien »

Black:
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Not as nice as:
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Bright, and original:
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By far the best:
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Even has a little Tim in the drivers seat =P
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Post by Wesley »

Your bar looks really good :) and i think white looks best, or the lego theme :lol: (Alien do one in grey to match his grill it might look alright ;) )
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Post by Moph »

alien wrote:By far the best:
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Even has a little Tim in the drivers seat =P
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: That rocks!!! :D If I didn't have plans for that car I would be sorely tempted....

Hmmm. White does look okay. Tell ya what - I've already got a coat of satin black on there :D so how about I chuck the bar on tomorrow, take a piccy, then repaint it gloss white (got a couple of cans here) and take another? Trying to fit it in before I got to Adelaide on Thursday could be a problem though....

About the 'little Tim'. Hell, yeah I'd be happy if my face looked that slim :oops:
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