Spare tyre... max diameter

Post by **Grantw** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:21 pm

Silly but serious question. Does anyone know whether a 35" tyre will fit on the back door?? I know 33" swampers do (really 34)..

Frank, your JT2s would be close to 35, how do they fit?

Post by **Bitsamissin** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 4:26 pm

Grant my 33" spare just fitted (rubbed ever so slightly on the rear bumper when closing/opening the rear barn door) but not enough to create any real resistance.
After the 2" body lift the JT2's clear ok but these are a wider offset rim (ROH Trac 2), I'll take a pic later. My rear bar is still the standard height (hasn't been modified for the body lift).
I think with a 35" spare and the standard bumper it won't fit..............
Either leave the rear bumper as is after the body lift to create more room or have a custom rear bar made up. Maybe raising the mount on the door may work but I haven't really had a good look yet.

Here's a pic, there is about three quarters of an inch room with the JT2's on the ROH Trac 2 rim (15x8") after the 2" b/l (bumper at standard height).

Post by **Grantw** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 10:19 pm

Thanks Frank. Your a gem. Looks like a lot of stuffing around now. I lifted the bumper after the body lift allready. See if i can raise the carrier on the backdoor.

Its the last thing I ever would have thought about, until i changed the spare the other day and thought it would be a good idea to check.

Post by **DougH** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:30 am

How about building a bumper with a swing out tire carrier. I dont think these doors were designed for that kind of weight over the long haul.

Or you could build a steel bumper, and under the spair tire have an semicirular dip in the bumper so the tire clears. :armsup:

Post by **Noisey** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 5:29 am

33 Procomp fit without an issue.

When I took a set of 34 JT's out for a test run I had to strap the spare to the roof cause it dinna wanna fit on the back door.

I like the idea of modin' the rear bar with a dip but I do agree that the rear door maybe was not designed to carry that kinda weight over the long haul. (The difference in weight between the 31 Cooper STT's and 33 Procomps are huge)

Post by **-Scott-** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 8:26 am

I don't know that I'm really serious about it, but I've considered asking someone like Kaymar about a rear bar with spare wheel carrier (after I go to 33's). This would get the weight off the back door, and, if I get it right, there should be room for two - I have this wierd idea about long range touring in a shorty, and I don't want to carry a spare on the roof!

Anybody ever looked into this?

Scott

Post by **Grantw** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:03 am

I am not overly concerned about the weight on the backdoor. Had a 33" Baja Claw as a spare on a steel rim sitting on the carrier for nearly 2 years and there was no issues. i am now going to run simex on alloys so the weight i believe will be less than what i usually carry.

On my first pajero, 10 years ago, the aim was to build a capable night run truck. So I bought an 84 swb, that ran V6 paj running gear and a 3.8 V6 to match. I threw an arb bullbar at it, and a arb steel rear bumper to suit a range rover. With a bit of mod, it worked. Looked agricultural but was as solid as a rock. Truck was rolled and written off short time later.

Post by **redrocket** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 11:08 pm

i just happened to have a 35' MTR on the door sarvy as a test for you grant and i can say that it will fit with a bee's old fella of clearance. i took a photo but i haven't dloaded it and its late and i am tired :cry:

i'm going now.

mike.

Post by **redrocket** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:00 pm

here are some pics of that 35". only leaning against the other tyre when side on.

Post by **redrocket** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:02 pm

as you can see 35's on a paj are bloody huuuuge mate!!

Post by **Grantw** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 9:49 pm

Thanks mike... Thats ooodles of room... Bags not doing any reversing though! Every time you look in the rear vision mirror there will be this mammoth lug of rubber staring at ya. Looking at some 35/13.50/16 Baja Claws tomorrow, so we will see how they fit. I know they are gonna be too wide but ill have a looksy. Cant make up my mind about bloody tires!! If I could use 15" rims, would have got meself some TSLs but thats not the case.

Post by **Grantw** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:00 pm

Ok,

I believe that the import pajs (j tops) have a higher spare wheel bracket to accommodate the stock 18"alloys (33" high rubber). The aust delivered pajs unfortunately dont allow for anything larger than 33". To fit the 35" spare, i am left with no choice but to modify the bracket.

Post by **redrocket** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 6:43 pm

here is a pic of my bracket. its not real clear cause it was dark outside.

Post by **Bitsamissin** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 7:01 pm

Yep I could hang my spare tyre on your bracket anyday :lol:

I was gonna say that the mount on Mike's swb has to be higher there is no way known a 35" will fit on mine with the bumper in the standard position as my 33" just squeezed in.
I think Grant has nailed this one.

Post by **redrocket** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 7:09 pm

hmmm, how odd. must say that that is a nice rack i seem to have there. they can stay but i will try again.

Post by **-Scott-** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 7:13 pm

Is the rear bar a different shape? When I checked out mine I expected the interference to be around 5 o'clock, but Mike's seems to be at 6 o'clock.

And on a slightly different note - how do you guys (Mike and Grant) expect me to keep up? Or am I the one left at the intersection to tell Search and Rescue which way to start looking? :roll:

Scott

Post by **Grantw** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 10:37 pm

NJSWB,

Have you got a rear airlocker in your truck? I may know of a guy whos got a 2nd hand one to suit. When i was looking for a new paj, there was a guy selling one in brisbane and he had a rear airlocker to suit a 3.0L.. I will try to find the details. Redrocket may know the guy I think. Had a white NL shorty like mine, ome springs, lives at cannon hill???? Could be a goer if its still there.

Post by **redrocket** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 10:48 pm

nope i don't think i know him. i have the mitsi club contact list if he's in that. njswb would have that as well. you prob have more chance of finding it than me.

Post by **-Scott-** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 8:00 pm

Thanks for the tip, Grant.

I've come across s/h lockers in the past, but not being intimate with the innards I've always chickened out and told myself to get the warranty. But if they never break, that's probably silly

I'll have a look on the list and see what I find.

Scott

Post by **Grantw** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 3:05 pm

Spare wheel bracket was a piece of piss. Just redrilled the mounting holes about 40mm higher and rewelded the nuts to the back of the bracket. Tyre just touches the bumper but is no cause for concern.

Post by **Grantw** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:06 am

Heres are pic of my modded bracket to fit the 35. Bit rough but works atreat....

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