Surf update

Post by **Surfection** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 8:59 pm

A frame swivel

A frame Diff mount, affectionally dubbed 'the castle', needs more bracing and finishing off but that's one of next weekends projects.

Completed A frame with all mounts, swivel and brace.

Underneith shot, showing chromo lower links, A frame and nicely tucked up tailshaft, i'm unsure whether i will end up running these links bent or as is, ATM they sacrifice a bit of ground clearence, just have to see how i go.

Ramp shot showing links at flex, as it still doesn't have the tank in we towed it up the ramp with dans mighty poo wagon !! :twisted:

That's not full travel at either end, we're gonna get another probably two inches of up, just gotta do a bit of body trimming. :2gunfire:

Underneith shot, showing A frame twist etc etc. Coils need to be tied in, they would last about 1 flex then they'd go bye byes !! :roll:

Another, once again we'll be getting around two inches more droop than this, we ran out of daylight to play with shock mounts etc.

Thanks to dan and travis for all the help, almost there fellas !!

Cheers, Jeremy

Post by **RUFF** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 9:09 pm

Sorry guys i deleted the replies on the other thread as Jeramy actually posted this topic twice but this one had text with it where as the other did not.

Post by **antt** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 9:11 pm

i'll try to remember what mine had in it........hmmm, something along these lines

OOOOH-AAAAAH looking good, will be even better once you get it fine tuned

Post by **GRUNTLESS** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 9:24 pm

whats that blue POS in pic 5 that wrecks the whole pic :finger:

The only thing is that ya gunna need more then that ta beat me just remember i got rear wheel steer :finger:

hopefully we will give menai a bash on next weekend

Post by **spazbot** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 10:19 pm

Looking good guys, sorry i couldnt make it round to help.
Vodka for breakfast 2 days running is not a good thing :-)

Post by **spazbot** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 10:53 pm

oh yeah when you finish up gruntless's rear, we should be able to do my rear end in a day :-)

Post by **hypo** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 5:26 am

Post by JK » Mon Jan 20, 2003 5:35 am

Nice work.

I might be able to drop in for a sticky beak this arvo. Jeremy, can you PM me you address?

Post by **Wendle** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 6:23 am

Awesome work....
Those ends on the lower links are farking nice, who's product are they??

Post by **bj on roids** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 8:17 am

stick a bumpstop in there, you can get more flex then, due to leverage 8)

Post by **jimmyb** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 2:19 pm

used to have a 4runner (surf) years ago, and would love to have done this. looks like you did the front coil conversion also, thats fantastic, would like to see this beast in the flesh!

Post by **Surfection** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 4:35 pm

Carlton - You're right, they are VERY nice !! They are Snake Racing's new 'Mogs' joints. Bronze bushed, greasable, rebuildable....all the good stuff !!

Bj - Don't worry dude, bump stops on their way, prolly on saturday afternoon or sunday morning before our drive. :twisted:

Jimmyb - You will be able to see it in the flesh....if you're going to XRCC that is, or coming for a wheel the following week. Late march.

Cheers, Jeremy

Post by **Juzza** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 6:10 pm

Looks real nice work :wink:
Just a question, are those brake lines made of copper tube?

Mon Jan 20, 2003 6:17 pm

you can buy brakeline that is coated with copper, i was in a brake joint the other day and saw it in there.

Copper brakeline is illegal.

Post by **thunder** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 8:17 pm

good work jeremy.u must b itchen to go off road.....steve

Post by **NICK** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 8:45 pm

mickbj42 wrote:
Copper brakeline is illegal.

you going to back that up? or did your mates brother tell you?

NICK

Mon Jan 20, 2003 8:55 pm

NICK wrote:
mickbj42 wrote:
Copper brakeline is illegal.

you going to back that up? or did your mates brother tell you?

NICK

i was waiting for that! :lol:

it was actually the guy that works in the local shop told my next door neighbours cousin, who the local hairdresser, who then told the butcher. The butcher then passed it onto me.

A1zook · Post by **A1zook** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 9:04 pm

U wanna be carefull wats being passed onto u or u might end up like cheezy with a virus :shock:

Post by **Surfection** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 9:15 pm

those brakelines are stock toyota brakelines, pretty sure they're just copper coated, and very legal.

Post by **moose** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 9:52 pm

lookin awsome jeremy !!!!! :shock:

8)
rather than tie your springs in , use the cone design !!!!!!
Cheezy used it to good effect & I think shane barlows 80 has them as well !!!!!!!!
that way , wen its flexing , it does,nt have to work against the spring !!!!
(trying to stretch it !!!!!) :wink: :wink:

Post by **hypo** » Tue Jan 21, 2003 5:06 am

A1zook has extended the centre parts also and it seem 2 work good..

Post by **suprasurf** » Tue Jan 21, 2003 5:14 am

When we were out last weekend I had my rear leafs hanging up on rocks quite often. I was wondering with such long bottom arms how will they go if you hang them on rocks ??? are the strong enough to possibly handle the weight of the truck on them ??

Only asking as I'm lookin into a rear end rebuild on the surf, not sure about bigger leafs, 5 link or A frame yet. I will be watching with interest how yours goes. Looks awesome....

Post by **Surfection** » Tue Jan 21, 2003 5:34 am

The arms are pretty strong supra, i'm not sure on the diameter but they're chrome-moly..... it is a concern though, just those arms could be the only reason not to get up a rock step because they are hanging down quite low. Which is why i mentioned before that i may end up running them bent, it's just gonna be a close call as with them mounted under the rails they can only be so bent before they will contact the rails when at full up travel. All to be found out when testing . :wink:

Post by **Wendle** » Tue Jan 21, 2003 5:57 am

Don;t worry about hanging up on the links, the surface area of the links isn't enough to cause enough friction to stop you moving (unless it unweights the tyres completely) I didn't think I hit mine that often untill I had one off and had a good look at the flat spot ground into them :twisted:

Tie those coils in so you get some controlled resistance against down travel before your shocks are stretched right out..

Looks awesome

Post by **bj on roids** » Tue Jan 21, 2003 7:22 am

Wendle wrote:Don;t worry about hanging up on the links, the surface area of the links isn't enough to cause enough friction to stop you moving (unless it unweights the tyres completely) I didn't think I hit mine that often untill I had one off and had a good look at the flat spot ground into them
Tie those coils in so you get some controlled resistance against down travel before your shocks are stretched right out..

Looks awesome

GOOD points wendle!!

Post by **zzzz** » Tue Jan 21, 2003 11:49 am

looks like the rear is doing most of the flexing?
could just be the angle of the pics...

if you can do the work to bend the lower arms a little that would be best. don't compromise unless you absolutely have to. We all spend so many $ on our rigs it is pointless compromising something like that unless it costs loads more.

are you going to work on balancing the flex out?

otherwise links look great.
nice a-frame and axle mount/truss

go coilovers and you don't need to worry about the rear springs unseating, bending, etc. hehe

Post by **Wendle** » Tue Jan 21, 2003 12:14 pm

Jeremy, can you get a direct side-on shot of the truck showing the link angles on level ground??
Cheers....

Post by **Surfection** » Tue Jan 21, 2003 6:50 pm

Your wish is my command carlton

It will sit down about 2 inches off the jack stands, so the angle isn't that accurate, but you get the general idea. I had them made too long, my mistake.....

zzzz, since we were only towing it up the ramp, it's a little harder to compare travel. But i think it's going to be quite good, those rear springs are fairly stiff, and the front reasonably soft, so the front will be doing alot of work until the terrain calls for more, when the back will come into play.
In those pics the front wristed arms are still all attached, if i disconnect one upper arm it will droop around 3" more. Not sure if the trade off in strength with only one arm is worth the extra travel, all will come to light in the next month hopefully. And don't worry, no shortcuts !!

Post by **Shorty40** » Tue Jan 21, 2003 8:36 pm

................now bob it - should be easy

:wink:

Post by **Orange** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 6:33 pm

Just a question

What will this be like on the road?

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