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The new great wall
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The new great wall
Anyone heard much about the new great wall 4x4s
Check the forum for Great Wall... From memory it's in the same section as Ssanyong Musso's - http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/forum319.php
indubitably
Its not good at all.
I was following what appeared to be a rodeo dual cab the other day, and when I got past it, I saw what I can only describe as the ugliest piece of motoring Ive ever seen. YUKOLA!!
It looked like a late model rodeo dual cab with the front end that kind of looked like a older barina. Worst approach angle ever.
Id buy a Lada before I bought a Great Wall.
I was following what appeared to be a rodeo dual cab the other day, and when I got past it, I saw what I can only describe as the ugliest piece of motoring Ive ever seen. YUKOLA!!
It looked like a late model rodeo dual cab with the front end that kind of looked like a older barina. Worst approach angle ever.
Id buy a Lada before I bought a Great Wall.
MrsForby wrote: Oh I desperately truly love the taco.
Kind of sounds like the comments when Hyundai came out here with cheap hatch backs, look at how many they sell these days.
The great wall might not be the best off roader, I highly doubt that ever designed it to be, but it opens up a new market and could potentially pull the ever growing prices of the more common dual cabs back a little.
The great wall might not be the best off roader, I highly doubt that ever designed it to be, but it opens up a new market and could potentially pull the ever growing prices of the more common dual cabs back a little.
[quote="Harb"]Well I'm guessing that they didn't think everyone would carry on like a big bunch of sooky girls over it like they have........[/quote]
China is actually making a lot of very good quility products. A lot of engine & vehicle bearings come out of china now. It comes down to qaility control and getting through ADR,s and they have to come with warranties. Ugly but not many utes look good any way.
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China's building Merc's, Beamers, Chrysler, Ford, Toyota, everything.
Chongquing in central China is todays equivelent of Detroit, almost every car manufacturer is building there cars there.
Wont be long and your only option with a new car is Chinese built, maybe they put the badge on in Germany / Japan before shipping out, but there chinese built thats for sure.
catcha
Leeham
Chongquing in central China is todays equivelent of Detroit, almost every car manufacturer is building there cars there.
Wont be long and your only option with a new car is Chinese built, maybe they put the badge on in Germany / Japan before shipping out, but there chinese built thats for sure.
catcha
Leeham
Bloody IFS bugger who slows down the SAS boys.
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They had a quick look at them in a certain 4x4 magazine a few issues ago (great wall that is) and the little diesel engine that comes in them had mitsubish proudly stamped on them. For memories its the 2.5 or whatever it was the paj's came out with. Im sure noone would complain about that but as for departure angles strength of components etc I would be cautious, but comming from china i bet it wont cost much to repair.
Jabber gone. Now have 98 nissan terrano and a 94 4.2ldiesel rv troopy on 33s slowly getting the fancy bits. How the hell do I change my user name?
Expect high insurance costs, as it is more likely to be written off due to its low replacement cost, than repaired at the $15-20K mark.88pajero wrote:They had a quick look at them in a certain 4x4 magazine a few issues ago (great wall that is) and the little diesel engine that comes in them had mitsubish proudly stamped on them. For memories its the 2.5 or whatever it was the paj's came out with. Im sure noone would complain about that but as for departure angles strength of components etc I would be cautious, but comming from china i bet it wont cost much to repair.
George Carlin, an American Comedian said; "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realise that half of them are stupider than that".
Nah its the petrols which are Mitsi units. 2.4L from the last model outlander. The diesels will be Great Wall developed units and aren't available yet apparently.88pajero wrote:They had a quick look at them in a certain 4x4 magazine a few issues ago (great wall that is) and the little diesel engine that comes in them had mitsubish proudly stamped on them. For memories its the 2.5 or whatever it was the paj's came out with. Im sure noone would complain about that but as for departure angles strength of components etc I would be cautious, but comming from china i bet it wont cost much to repair.
And if you are planning to lease one for business purposes, there will be no residual on offer. Finance companies won't take the risk of what they might be worth in 3-4 years...if they are still in one piece.DAMKIA wrote:Expect high insurance costs, as it is more likely to be written off due to its low replacement cost, than repaired at the $15-20K mark.88pajero wrote:They had a quick look at them in a certain 4x4 magazine a few issues ago (great wall that is) and the little diesel engine that comes in them had mitsubish proudly stamped on them. For memories its the 2.5 or whatever it was the paj's came out with. Im sure noone would complain about that but as for departure angles strength of components etc I would be cautious, but comming from china i bet it wont cost much to repair.
http://www.carsguide.com.au/site/news-a ... tes_review
In 24 years they've added 1 nm of torque and 10kw - from an injected 2.2L petrol. Did I say its a new motor?
pieces of shit
My 24 year old hilux motor makes 189nm of torque and 69kw. This is a carbied, 2.2L 4Y motor. Known to be a gutless slug.The SA220 gets its power from a 2.2-litre four-cylinder engine putting out a modest 78 kW at 4600 revs and 190 Nm at 2400-2800 revs.
In 24 years they've added 1 nm of torque and 10kw - from an injected 2.2L petrol. Did I say its a new motor?
pieces of shit
probably uses 1/4 the fuel to make the same powercraz3d wrote:http://www.carsguide.com.au/site/news-a ... tes_review
My 24 year old hilux motor makes 189nm of torque and 69kw. This is a carbied, 2.2L 4Y motor. Known to be a gutless slug.The SA220 gets its power from a 2.2-litre four-cylinder engine putting out a modest 78 kW at 4600 revs and 190 Nm at 2400-2800 revs.
In 24 years they've added 1 nm of torque and 10kw - from an injected 2.2L petrol. Did I say its a new motor?
Tetanus rolling on 37's
dont know about the new new ones but one of dads silly(idiot) mate bought one and had the brake pads replaced like 5 times in 20thou km before the smart dealer realised that the disks were as warped as a teenage mind on acid!
Also tyre wear was absolutely stupid, inside edge was down the canvas and outside has full tread! And no tyre shop could help, they reckon it was bent diffs and axels...
He has since "drowned" it launching his boat best thing he ever did!!!
Also tyre wear was absolutely stupid, inside edge was down the canvas and outside has full tread! And no tyre shop could help, they reckon it was bent diffs and axels...
He has since "drowned" it launching his boat
best thing he ever did!!!00 td42t wagon
stock engine, set up for work and play!
engine soon to be honking ;-)
stock engine, set up for work and play!
engine soon to be honking ;-)
hows the 4y rated tho? from what i recall, they use a different rating method now, vs then. i mean ford and holden today both use different methodscraz3d wrote:http://www.carsguide.com.au/site/news-a ... tes_review
My 24 year old hilux motor makes 189nm of torque and 69kw. This is a carbied, 2.2L 4Y motor. Known to be a gutless slug.The SA220 gets its power from a 2.2-litre four-cylinder engine putting out a modest 78 kW at 4600 revs and 190 Nm at 2400-2800 revs.
In 24 years they've added 1 nm of torque and 10kw - from an injected 2.2L petrol. Did I say its a new motor?
Spit my last breath
One of my neighbours is a Honda & Mazda Dealer. He has just returned from a trip to China & brought back brochures which indicate that the Chinese are doing what the Japanese did when they first sent vehicles to Australia.
They are doing copies of vehicles from other manufacturers with very slight deviations from the Japanese models but with older model motors. He said they have authority to begin sending these vehicles to us despite them having difficulty meeting our Design Rules.
That should lead to some interesting spectating!
They are doing copies of vehicles from other manufacturers with very slight deviations from the Japanese models but with older model motors. He said they have authority to begin sending these vehicles to us despite them having difficulty meeting our Design Rules.
That should lead to some interesting spectating!
wouldnt be surprised if the-
indicators a brake.
turn the steering wheel left and it goes right.
regardless of turning circle any park takes at least three points.
it doesnt go faster than 50.
all the indicators are fake, so ya never really know where ones going.
push the accelerator and it takes minimum 45 seconds to respond...
ect. ect. ect.
indicators a brake.
turn the steering wheel left and it goes right.
regardless of turning circle any park takes at least three points.
it doesnt go faster than 50.
all the indicators are fake, so ya never really know where ones going.
push the accelerator and it takes minimum 45 seconds to respond...
ect. ect. ect.
I crawled in, out and over one of these at Knox City - everything underneath 'looks' adequate but not exceptional... Cab external quality is equal to any of the dual cabs coming out of Thailand, cab interior shit all over my Triton for quality of finish including softer leather for the steering wheel and gear knobs... Seats were more comfy than any of the Jap dual cabs I've sat in...
I personally wouldn't buy one but the quality is coming up...!!!
I personally wouldn't buy one but the quality is coming up...!!!
I wish my lawn was EMO, then it would cut itself...
This is how they get you. Sure, it's good when you want to buy it, but can you trust it to last you a decade or more?Bluefreak wrote:I crawled in, out and over one of these at Knox City - everything underneath 'looks' adequate but not exceptional... Cab external quality is equal to any of the dual cabs coming out of Thailand, cab interior shit all over my Triton for quality of finish including softer leather for the steering wheel and gear knobs... Seats were more comfy than any of the Jap dual cabs I've sat in...
I personally wouldn't buy one but the quality is coming up...!!!
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