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Disco diffs keep braking?

Tech Talk for Rover owners.

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Post by Micka »

uninformed wrote:
Micka wrote:
Slunnie wrote:
Kalex wrote:if money is tight, put a detroit locker in the rear. Just as strong as a air locker and can be had for around $600 from the states. Then you can afford the axles at the same time.
I hear of these shattering when an axle breaks. I've never heard of an ARB doing that.
ARBs have had failures too. The lock rings have been known to strip under high load. Its common enough for a US company to have started making upgraded lock rings.
for all ARB lockers???

i know the ford9 has some problems, but it has very little engagement depth.
Mostly 9" but D60 have had issues too from what Keith from RoverTracks has told me.

Nothing is unbreakable.
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Post by Slunnie »

Micka wrote:
uninformed wrote:
Micka wrote:
Slunnie wrote:
Kalex wrote:if money is tight, put a detroit locker in the rear. Just as strong as a air locker and can be had for around $600 from the states. Then you can afford the axles at the same time.
I hear of these shattering when an axle breaks. I've never heard of an ARB doing that.
ARBs have had failures too. The lock rings have been known to strip under high load. Its common enough for a US company to have started making upgraded lock rings.
for all ARB lockers???

i know the ford9 has some problems, but it has very little engagement depth.
Mostly 9" but D60 have had issues too from what Keith from RoverTracks has told me.

Nothing is unbreakable.
I think Ashcrofts were doing something simlar for their 9" conversion ARB lockers too.
Cheers
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Post by billy bob »

cloughy wrote:Hilux diffs are the way to go, as you get a stronger rear and decent ratios, can be had in 4.1, 4.3 or 4.55 I believe from bundera's

You can fit locker to rover centres, but you still need axles and diff gears do have a decent set up, only prob with the lux conversion, is you have to do it all at once, so if you got no coin, makes it hard :roll:
Its an easy conversion, I've done quite a few now, none return as opposed to rover centres:D
Do you own a workshop?
You say you have done quite a few conversions now.
Can you do for customers?
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billy bob wrote:
cloughy wrote:Hilux diffs are the way to go, as you get a stronger rear and decent ratios, can be had in 4.1, 4.3 or 4.55 I believe from bundera's

You can fit locker to rover centres, but you still need axles and diff gears do have a decent set up, only prob with the lux conversion, is you have to do it all at once, so if you got no coin, makes it hard :roll:
Its an easy conversion, I've done quite a few now, none return as opposed to rover centres:D
Do you own a workshop?
You say you have done quite a few conversions now.
Can you do for customers?
Workshop at home, can do, but your from Canberra. I have a 4.1 front high pinion 80 series centre here actually, then just have to source a 4.1 rear and jackmac axles, convert front CV's to either lux, longs, early RR, ashcroft or rovertracks :D
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Re: Disco diffs keep braking?

Post by billy bob »

Sounds like you really know your stuff. A few things to do yet till i'm ready for bigger tyres.
Have you done any disco engine conversions?
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Re: Disco diffs keep braking?

Post by cloughy »

billy bob wrote:Sounds like you really know your stuff. A few things to do yet till i'm ready for bigger tyres.
Have you done any disco engine conversions?
Done heaps of engine conversions on various things, best yet would be an LS1 and auto into a Disco, I just wired it, Andrew at Hiline4wd fitted it, very nice conversion. problem with a Disco is the auto is not upto the task of a huge HP upgrade, all depends on what you'd like to achieve :D
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Re: Disco diffs keep braking?

Post by billy bob »

Was it a tight fit, what auto did he run.
Do you know what sort of fuel consumption their getting?
Would love to see some pics.
Put a V6 commodore motor in a hilux once. Thought I was going to get similar fuel economy to the commodore work ute I had, but it was about double. Absolutely shocking.
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Post by cloughy »

billy bob wrote:Was it a tight fit, what auto did he run.
Do you know what sort of fuel consumption their getting?
Would love to see some pics.
Put a V6 commodore motor in a hilux once. Thought I was going to get similar fuel economy to the commodore work ute I had, but it was about double. Absolutely shocking.
4L60E, if budget isn't an issue, 6L 4L80E, not fuel figures as its a comp car, quite a neat fit, there is some pics on http://www.aulro.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ;)
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where abouts on aulro do I find it?
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http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/ ... -tray.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by billy bob »

thanks cloughy. your the Wiring Wizard
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Post by ashtrans »

uninformed wrote:
Micka wrote:
Slunnie wrote:
Kalex wrote:if money is tight, put a detroit locker in the rear. Just as strong as a air locker and can be had for around $600 from the states. Then you can afford the axles at the same time.
I hear of these shattering when an axle breaks. I've never heard of an ARB doing that.
ARBs have had failures too. The lock rings have been known to strip under high load. Its common enough for a US company to have started making upgraded lock rings.
for all ARB lockers???

i know the ford9 has some problems, but it has very little engagement depth.
Yes we are seeing the same problem on the rover lockers, kicking out when locked under load, not as often as the 9" as the loads are lower,

Dave
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Post by uninformed »

ashtrans wrote:
uninformed wrote:
Micka wrote:
Slunnie wrote:
Kalex wrote:if money is tight, put a detroit locker in the rear. Just as strong as a air locker and can be had for around $600 from the states. Then you can afford the axles at the same time.
I hear of these shattering when an axle breaks. I've never heard of an ARB doing that.
ARBs have had failures too. The lock rings have been known to strip under high load. Its common enough for a US company to have started making upgraded lock rings.
for all ARB lockers???

i know the ford9 has some problems, but it has very little engagement depth.
Yes we are seeing the same problem on the rover lockers, kicking out when locked under load, not as often as the 9" as the loads are lower,

Dave
Thanks Dave,

any more news on the Force9???

are you still doing the upgrade/mod for the arb ford 9? I saw this on pirate4x4

cheers,
Serg
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