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NEW! billet lightend wheel spacers
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NEW! billet lightend wheel spacers
hey i have been working with an engineering compaby to come up with some NEW billet wheel spacers
aprrox cost will be under 200 ea at this stage ( the more interest the cheaper they can become I.E bulk buy )
they will come with all studs and nutts.
i have taken some pics let me know what you guys think !!!
cheers
aprrox cost will be under 200 ea at this stage ( the more interest the cheaper they can become I.E bulk buy )
they will come with all studs and nutts.
i have taken some pics let me know what you guys think !!!
cheers
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Re: NEW! billet lightend wheel spacers
What grade aluminium are they made from? And hurry up with the high steer mate.
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Re: NEW! billet lightend wheel spacers
billet steel ... as billet alloy is not strong enough to handle the load from larger size rubber people are running todayOUTLAW565 wrote:What grade aluminium are they made from? And hurry up with the high steer mate.
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Re: NEW! billet lightend wheel spacers
could you not make the studs like factory ones, ie, press in? would save some machining on the threads
or actually, are the marks in the stud holes just scores from being bored ? D:
or actually, are the marks in the stud holes just scores from being bored ? D:
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Re: NEW! billet lightend wheel spacers
yes but then you have the price difrence between the nut and a stud,Shadow wrote:could you not make the studs like factory ones, ie, press in? would save some machining on the threads
or actually, are the marks in the stud holes just scores from being bored ? D:
also a stud is mroe readly avalible from an engineering shop if your break one as apposed to a stud and easy to change
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Re: NEW! billet lightend wheel spacers
NICE!!!
They'd have to be almost half the weight!
They'd have to be almost half the weight!
Outers & Arms up stickers coming soon you hungry bitches!
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Re: NEW! billet lightend wheel spacers
Mate they look the goods, Have you done testing on a 4wd if so was there any problems.
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It would make it easier getting a socket onto the wheel nuts too
Instead of trying to get your socket out of the hole when tightening normal ones up.
Instead of trying to get your socket out of the hole when tightening normal ones up.
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Re: NEW! billet lightend wheel spacers
will you be making them hub centric?
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Mate $200 each is cheap for something with that much machine work in it.
Rims flipped from $50
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I always though much of the strength in the wheel/hub interface came from friction between wheel/hub - the job of the studs being to force the surfaces together rather than take up the full force of the union (i.e. the studs should be only under tensile stress, not shear and/or bending). In this case you're cutting down on the contact area between the wheel and hub, hence reducing friction between wheel and hub - putting more load on the studs themselves.
What sort of bolt will you be supplying with the spacers and will it have the correct taper to suit individual vehicals?
But they sure look cool and it's possible i have no idea what i'm talking about.
What sort of bolt will you be supplying with the spacers and will it have the correct taper to suit individual vehicals?
But they sure look cool and it's possible i have no idea what i'm talking about.
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That's actually a good call dog breath although some mags only have this much contact.
Rims flipped from $50
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You would increase the pressure on the contact area - and some mags and steelies have about 30-40% of the contact area actually in contact anyway. Should still be alright...
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I think they look great!
Top work!!
Top work!!
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Re: NEW! billet lightend wheel spacers
Nice machine work. But I have some reservations.
1. Stiffness. You've cut away so much metal that there's no direct load path any more.
2. Fatigue life. You've got a lot of internal sharp corners for fatigue cracks to start at.
3. Stud insertion depth. It looks like you're down to 1x thread depth.
4. Wheel centring boss. These take care of any overload, especially if nuts work loose. I don't see any on your spacers.
Have you got an engineer to do any stress testing on these?
1. Stiffness. You've cut away so much metal that there's no direct load path any more.
2. Fatigue life. You've got a lot of internal sharp corners for fatigue cracks to start at.
3. Stud insertion depth. It looks like you're down to 1x thread depth.
4. Wheel centring boss. These take care of any overload, especially if nuts work loose. I don't see any on your spacers.
Have you got an engineer to do any stress testing on these?
Re: NEW! billet lightend wheel spacers
What is the weight saving? and in the scheme of things does it really make much difference saving ? (1kg ?) per wheel when your bead locked 37'' tyre weighs ~60-70kg per corner and your racing at comparably low speeds.
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Re: NEW! billet lightend wheel spacers
ROH have basically same design on there alloy wheels so should not be a problem
but i am no engineer
nice machine work
Cheers
Gordon
but i am no engineer
nice machine work
Cheers
Gordon
Re: NEW! billet lightend wheel spacers
hi mate would u do a set for a f250 8 stud?
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hmm interesting design, you done any FEA on it ? I think if you do you will be seeing some red .....
As others have said you may want to looking into the depth of your stud holes and what length kneeling you will have to deal with, looks pretty shallow.
As others have said you may want to looking into the depth of your stud holes and what length kneeling you will have to deal with, looks pretty shallow.
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I am no engineer, so I am just asking...
Does this very thin bit of steel (marked in arrows) really add much strength to the whole set up? The reason I ask is that if I picture the same item with that very thin-walled part removed, it starts to seem a bit iffy in terms of the amount of steel going from the old studs to the new studs. Especially when you look at the "inside" image, those thin-walled bits create an impression that the overall structure is really robust, but it is an illusion if those thin bits are really just sort of leftover metal and don't add strength.
It's a genuine question, I am not bagging the item I am just wondering. I guess the best test would be to thrash the shit out of them in the wild on a heavy 4WD
Does this very thin bit of steel (marked in arrows) really add much strength to the whole set up? The reason I ask is that if I picture the same item with that very thin-walled part removed, it starts to seem a bit iffy in terms of the amount of steel going from the old studs to the new studs. Especially when you look at the "inside" image, those thin-walled bits create an impression that the overall structure is really robust, but it is an illusion if those thin bits are really just sort of leftover metal and don't add strength.
It's a genuine question, I am not bagging the item I am just wondering. I guess the best test would be to thrash the shit out of them in the wild on a heavy 4WD
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Nice job, but I would definitely be going with press fit studs I think........ I dont trust threaded studs in this app, due to the chance loose wheel nuts rocking the stud around and wearing the threads....... just feel safer with a big stud head having to pull through the hub to get free.
It would be a simple mod though....definitely like the idea os less unsprung weight.
It would be a simple mod though....definitely like the idea os less unsprung weight.
Harb
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My uneducated guess is it will stop alot of flex if left there and not removed.chimpboy wrote:I am no engineer, so I am just asking...
Does this very thin bit of steel (marked in arrows) really add much strength to the whole set up? The reason I ask is that if I picture the same item with that very thin-walled part removed, it starts to seem a bit iffy in terms of the amount of steel going from the old studs to the new studs. Especially when you look at the "inside" image, those thin-walled bits create an impression that the overall structure is really robust, but it is an illusion if those thin bits are really just sort of leftover metal and don't add strength.
It's a genuine question, I am not bagging the item I am just wondering. I guess the best test would be to thrash the shit out of them in the wild on a heavy 4WD
Grab a bit of paper, sit something on top with it flat.
put a small curve on the same piece of paper and it has a better chance of supporting said object.
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Just don't try putting a wheel on your curved bit of paper.
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Harb wrote:Nice job, but I would definitely be going with press fit studs I think........ I dont trust threaded studs in this app, due to the chance loose wheel nuts rocking the stud around and wearing the threads....... just feel safer with a big stud head having to pull through the hub to get free.
It would be a simple mod though....definitely like the idea os less unsprung weight.
why not use cap screw screwed in from the back? then they are threaded in and have a large head to pull through
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84sloth wrote:hi mate would u do a set for a f250 8 stud?
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