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Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers

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Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers

Post by TheOtherLeft »

I'm up for changing my thermostat housing and maybe transmission screen and hence need to change the gasket.

I intend to use a cork gasket but have been told it's wise to use some silicon gasket maker as well.

What's the deal with the different types of gasket makers - there's red, blue, ultra blue, silver, gold, black, grey etc?

http://www.permatex.com/products/Automo ... makers.htm

Other then sensor safe (I assume for the O2 sensor) and temperature range is one better then the other? They all say there are suitable for things like thermostat housings etc.

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Post by GUtripper »

If it says its OK to use, it is.

I use black RVT on just about everything and never had a failure.
Just make sure you dont get too happy with it and end up restricting the thermostat operation.
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Post by Josh n Kat »

i found the genuine toyota silicone sealant works extremely effectively.

They seal certain sections on their engine blocks with the stuff.
(there's a plate on the front side of a 4 cylinder camry motor IIRC)

i always make sure i have a tube at home!
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Post by Willy Hilux »

I use ultra blue. Good for O2 sensors as well. Good for diffs and gearboxes. :D
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Post by RAY185 »

Willy Hilux wrote:I use ultra blue. Good for O2 sensors as well. Good for diffs and gearboxes. :D
x2. Good for almost everything! Use it on cooling system parts quite regularly.
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Post by skips_BIGRED »

i'm in the same boat,

was told on the weekend that ultra grey is the go with diffs.

i talked to someone at repco, and they said just as long as it has a high resistance to oils it'll be fine.

http://www.permatex.com/products/automo ... _Maker.htm
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Post by skootin »

Get some spray paint and paint the CORK gasket before you remove the old gasket it will help seal it.
I prefer loctite 515 & 510
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Post by UhhOhh »

Ultra blue is the stuff, only problem it sets you back about 60 dollars a farken tube!
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Post by Rhett »

I use ultra copper for everything but mine gets hot, real hot
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Re: Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers

Post by GUtripper »

GUtripper wrote:If it says its OK to use, it is.

I use black RVT on just about everything and never had a failure.
Just make sure you dont get too happy with it and end up restricting the thermostat operation.
Edit: I also use GM Sealant around water jackets etc (ie under the V8 intake). Exxy but great stuff, a tin lasts a long time.
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3 bond is the best you can get...Period.
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Post by Willy Hilux »

UhhOhh wrote:Ultra blue is the stuff, only problem it sets you back about 60 dollars a farken tube!
Cheap where I get it from.... ;)
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Post by simcoz »

I use blue max on most parts that aren't near anything to hot and high temp(red) around the hot stuff.
Don't use gasket goo on your auto's pan,the cork gasket will do the job fine,just dont over tighten the bolts as this is the cause of most cork gasket leaks.
also store your open tubes of gasket goo in the fridge so it wont dry up,also extends the shelf life.
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Post by TheOtherLeft »

simcoz wrote:I use blue max on most parts that aren't near anything to hot and high temp(red) around the hot stuff.
Don't use gasket goo on your auto's pan,the cork gasket will do the job fine,just dont over tighten the bolts as this is the cause of most cork gasket leaks.
also store your open tubes of gasket goo in the fridge so it wont dry up,also extends the shelf life.
What's too hot? engine block, turbo or exhaust?
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Post by chunks »

Wurth Silicon Special 250 or 3-bond. Toyota sealant is good too.
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Re: Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers

Post by simcoz »

TheOtherLeft wrote:
simcoz wrote:I use blue max on most parts that aren't near anything to hot and high temp(red) around the hot stuff.
Don't use gasket goo on your auto's pan,the cork gasket will do the job fine,just dont over tighten the bolts as this is the cause of most cork gasket leaks.
also store your open tubes of gasket goo in the fridge so it wont dry up,also extends the shelf life.
What's too hot? engine block, turbo or exhaust?
Yeah turbo and exhaust.Just check the what temps are on the tube because they vary between brands.
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Post by phat-customs »

Josh n Kat wrote:i found the genuine toyota silicone sealant works extremely effectively.

They seal certain sections on their engine blocks with the stuff.
(there's a plate on the front side of a 4 cylinder camry motor IIRC)

i always make sure i have a tube at home!


Toyota "Black" on engine

Toyota "Red" on Diffs/Gearboxes/Transfers.
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Re: Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers

Post by TheOtherLeft »

phat-customs wrote:
Josh n Kat wrote:i found the genuine toyota silicone sealant works extremely effectively.

They seal certain sections on their engine blocks with the stuff.
(there's a plate on the front side of a 4 cylinder camry motor IIRC)

i always make sure i have a tube at home!


Toyota "Black" on engine

Toyota "Red" on Diffs/Gearboxes/Transfers.
What's the chance Toyota "black" and "red" are Permatex (or equivalent) "ultra black" and "red" gaskets?
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Re: Skool me on: Silicon gasket makers

Post by phat-customs »

TheOtherLeft wrote:
phat-customs wrote:
Josh n Kat wrote:i found the genuine toyota silicone sealant works extremely effectively.

They seal certain sections on their engine blocks with the stuff.
(there's a plate on the front side of a 4 cylinder camry motor IIRC)

i always make sure i have a tube at home!


Toyota "Black" on engine

Toyota "Red" on Diffs/Gearboxes/Transfers.
What's the chance Toyota "black" and "red" are Permatex (or equivalent) "ultra black" and "red" gaskets?
Anythings possible I guess, they just seem to work REALLY WELL! Maybe its just the toyota box that they put it in that makes it sooper dooper!

They may be made by permatex, but to Toyota's "specs" perhaps?!
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Post by MICK77 »

OUTLAW565 wrote:3 bond is the best you can get...Period.
x2

There are many different grades, all with great performance.
I use 1215 (gray) & 1207C (red).

Best sealer I've ever used.

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Post by Skegbudley »

I use permatex #3 on just about everything. Never had an oil or water leak on any gasket painted with that stuff.
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