Hysteer for 80 series

[chunderlicious]

it is alot. go to pirtek and they can make them for about $60-$80. dont know about dot approval. but places like superior engineering etc sell braided lines from chassis to diff for $110 and diff to caliper for $70 or 80.

so a patrol will have
4 x diff to caliper = $280
2 x chassis to diff = $220
thats $500. but it does make a huge difference.

[Shadow]

it is alot. go to pirtek and they can make them for about $60-$80. dont know about dot approval. but places like superior engineering etc sell braided lines from chassis to diff for $110 and diff to caliper for $70 or 80.

so a patrol will have
4 x diff to caliper = $280
2 x chassis to diff = $220
thats $500. but it does make a huge difference.

I have never understood the attraction to braided lines.

So theres is a small amount of flex in the rubber lines,

the pressure at the pads is exactly the same with rubber lines or braided stainless or unobtainium lines.

You would at most have to push the pedal a fraction further with rubber lines(much less than 10% i would think??), and you get a slight spongy feel with the rubber lines???(ive never had braided lines so cant really compare).

but the braking performance of the vehicle, when you jump on the brakes hard, would be identical?

I think I will spend the $500 on daytime running lights, or a set of exhaust stacks.

[91Mav]

ive never had braided lines so cant really compare.

Spose your opinion doesn't count then.

Anyone who rides a sports bike will tell you braided lines help with feel and consistency. While you don't drive your truck like a sports bike, you brakes work hard pulling up 3 tonnes or when being ridden down a big downhill.

I rate em.

[TheBigBoy]

Full braided brake line kit $650 with dot 5 world of difference.

does brai9ded line expand less than steel lines????

no but it expands a shit load less than rubber which is all you would get for $650.

be careful when changing to dot 5, it HATES glycol fluid.... make sure you flush the system VERY good and make sure if someone else is servicing your car/ brakes that they know it has dot 5

so replacing those short pieces of rubber lines, for $650, makes a noticable difference to your braking?

i call BS

My brakes where spoungy and didnt engadge pressure until halfway close to the floor. Full braided lines now and it engadges right at the start of the cycle. Breath on them and they start to brake. But being higher up and no expansion in your lines, means you can increase the pressure you put on your pads.

Call what eva ya want.

Your thinking of it all wrong shadow. You get to a certain amount of pressure before your rubber lines expand losing that force to your brakes. Without any expansion its forced onto your brakes and gives much greater braking performance. I cna now use my big toe to apply presuure and it will start braking (much like modern cars these days).

[TheBigBoy]

Yup $650. Fitted. I had purchased some from locktup but they where taking forever to get them in stock and I couldnt wait. $150 for both main lines. And $80 for each caliper. The rest is fitting and fuid. dot 5 is designed for cars that spent alot of time out in the weather instead of a garage. Its designed to elimate condensation/water/contaminates in your lines. But like chunderlicious said. It hates other fliuds.

[Shadow]

Full braided brake line kit $650 with dot 5 world of difference.

does brai9ded line expand less than steel lines????

no but it expands a shit load less than rubber which is all you would get for $650.

be careful when changing to dot 5, it HATES glycol fluid.... make sure you flush the system VERY good and make sure if someone else is servicing your car/ brakes that they know it has dot 5

so replacing those short pieces of rubber lines, for $650, makes a noticable difference to your braking?

i call BS

My brakes where spoungy and didnt engadge pressure until halfway close to the floor. Full braided lines now and it engadges right at the start of the cycle. Breath on them and they start to brake. But being higher up and no expansion in your lines, means you can increase the pressure you put on your pads.

Call what eva ya want.

Your thinking of it all wrong shadow. You get to a certain amount of pressure before your rubber lines expand losing that force to your brakes. Without any expansion its forced onto your brakes and gives much greater braking performance. I cna now use my big toe to apply presuure and it will start braking (much like modern cars these days).

you obviously had a problem with your brakes prior to fitting your braided lines. If they were spongy and didnt do anything till half way to the floor there was something majorly wrong???? not just rubber lines expanding.

The rubber lines will expand but once you have maximum pedal pressure,(and if your pedal doesn't hit the stop) the pressure everywhere in the system equalises, so pad pressure is the same with or without braided lines.

[chunderlicious]

you obviously had a problem with your brakes prior to fitting your braided lines. If they were spongy and didnt do anything till half way to the floor there was something majorly wrong???? not just rubber lines expanding.

The rubber lines will expand but once you have maximum pedal pressure,(and if your pedal doesn't hit the stop) the pressure everywhere in the system equalises, so pad pressure is the same with or without braided lines.

if nothing else, it makes the pedal "feel" stronger. it helped my brakes after fitting bendix pads farked my braking system somehow (i know it wouldnt have, just coincidence) and its helped many other peoples.

if you dont want to spend the money on it dont, no one is forcing you too, no one is saying you cant live life without it, we're just saying that it has made a big difference in OUR braking.

[Shadow]

you obviously had a problem with your brakes prior to fitting your braided lines. If they were spongy and didnt do anything till half way to the floor there was something majorly wrong???? not just rubber lines expanding.

The rubber lines will expand but once you have maximum pedal pressure,(and if your pedal doesn't hit the stop) the pressure everywhere in the system equalises, so pad pressure is the same with or without braided lines.

if nothing else, it makes the pedal "feel" stronger. it helped my brakes after fitting bendix pads farked my braking system somehow (i know it wouldnt have, just coincidence) and its helped many other peoples.

if you dont want to spend the money on it dont, no one is forcing you too, no one is saying you cant live life without it, we're just saying that it has made a big difference in OUR braking.

im not trying to be negetive, i just dont understand the benefit of it. I dont understand the science behind "Braided lines give me better brakes"

[DIRTY ROCK STAR]

not to be negative but what the fark does this have to do with fitting high steer to an 80 series?

[crankycruiser]

Didint u know DRS, with a braided brake lines your radio will be louder and therefore increasing the pedal feel on your glove box

[Z()LTAN]

Imho cross drilled brake lines are wayy better

[DIRTY ROCK STAR]

well ive sourced a LHD double steering arm. so this may help my cause. i think its time for some bootyfab at Agro.
the cost of the highsteer is certainly something i hadnt thought of when budgeting for full hydro steer.

[TheBigBoy]

Nope. Brakes where rebuilt 6 months ago. Front and back. The only change I have made was the braided brake lines. I would like to question the pressure between braided and rubber (due to ballooning). Because I can easily lock up my brakes now, and before I couldnt. 35 muds

[DIRTY ROCK STAR]

Is anyone running the billybob hellfire knuckles on a full hydro setup?
and if so, is it required to run the setup in double shear or will the single top arm on each side be sufficient??

Twon

[Z()LTAN]

Like everything related, sufficiency depends on how u want to drive and how much stress ur going to put everything under.

Back in the day 33s and a locker or 2 was sufficient.

Im sure you could decide whats 'sufficient' for your situation.